Current Events > what are British and Irish people of CE opinion on Northern Ireland?

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It's always been a fascinating corner of the globe to me due to it's tumultuous history from it's weird partitioning.
plus their accent is astonishingly entertaining, I just wonder how it figures into the political culture of the two nations.

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The accent is incredibly annoying.

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I'm British with an Irish step family. I think it should be part of the republic, Unionists are scum and the UK government and armed forces have treated the Irish horribly although it's somewhat better now.

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I'm British with an Irish step family. I think it should be part of the republic

even though it doesn't want to be?

Should the US be part of England again?
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UnfairRepresent posted...

even though it doesn't want to be?

Should the US be part of England again?

It only doesn't want to be because it's occupied by Unionists

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p-m posted...

It only doesn't want to be because it's occupied by Unionists

So it only wants to be part of the UK, because most of the people living there want it to be part of the UK?

p-m posted...

It only doesn't want to be because it's occupied by Unionists

lol what a silly post

"They only think this because it's occupied by people who think it."

America only wants to be independant of England because it's occupied by Americans.
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So, it being part of the UK isn't a good solution.
It being part of Ireland isn't a good solution.

What if it went independent?
Separate from both

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ROBANN_88 posted...

So, it being part of the UK isn't a good solution.
It being part of Ireland isn't a good solution.

What if it went independent?
Separate from both

That would be a terrible terrible terrilble idea

1. The people who live there don't want it.

2. It would lose all the trade deals, laws, protection and money it gets from being the UK. It would cripple it's economy and military to the point of making the entire nation a bad joke.

3. It would have to erect a hard boarder not only from Ireland but also strict boarder controls for England/Scotland/Wales as well which would be a nightmare.

4. It would have to negoicate new trade deals and laws with the EU From a bargining position of absolutely nothing. It would get fucked over so hard. And even if they tried to join the EU and the EU let them join that would still take years.

This isn't California. It's not even potentially self-sustaining on a global developed scale.
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SpaceBear_ posted...

The accent is incredibly annoying.

Ulster accents are hot as fuck, get to fuck

UnfairRepresent posted...

3. It would have to erect a hard boarder not only from Ireland but also strict boarder controls for England/Scotland/Wales as well which would be a nightmare

Why does it have to be a Hard Border?
Those other points, i'm not gonna argue, but this one seems optional.

Sure, they're not part of the EU, but neither is Norway and their border with Sweden is barely enforced at all except for special circumstances

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ROBANN_88 posted...

Why does it have to be a Hard Border?
Those other points, i'm not gonna argue, but this one seems optional

Ireland is in the EU. The Independant Northern Ireland isn't. Even if it tried to join it won't be for years.

They would have to have a border between the nations and without the UK, it would have to be a hard border armed with military forces for basic security measures

Why does Mexico have to have a hard border with The US and Guatemala?

Same reasons.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Ireland is in the EU. The Independant Northern Ireland isn't. Even if it tried to join it won't be for years.

I'm gonna assume you started to write that before i finshed my edit of my last post:

ROBANN_88 posted...

Sure, they're not part of the EU, but neither is Norway and their border with Sweden is barely enforced at all except for special circumstances

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i don't have much of an opinion on northern ireland specifically but i do love ireland and irish people.

also "no irish, no blacks" was unfortunately a thing here in the past so there's somewhat of a shared bond i guess

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UnfairRepresent posted...

lol what a silly post

"They only think this because it's occupied by people who think it."

America only wants to be independant of England because it's occupied by Americans.

Tbf the USA should be given back to the natives.

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ROBANN_88 posted...

I'm gonna assume you started to write that before i finshed my edit of my last post:

Norway and Sweden are different nations with different histories.

There is no warfare, terrorism, economic gain, military risk, illegal drug/child smugging going on there.

Northern Ireland would be a hotbed for it, even as part of the UK. Let alone without it. We have people in this topic alone low key implying they want to remove the population who is against reunification.
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I think Northern Ireland's political future should be decided by the people of Northern Ireland -- whatever that decision may be.

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Be good if the problems inherent in Brexit border issues result in Boris Johnson's legs being blown off

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The Ayatollah C posted...

Be good if the problems inherent in Brexit border issues result in Boris Johnson's legs being blown off

I'm still not sure I can forgive the IRA for that missed chance in Brighton in 1984.

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