Current Events > Cooper: Do you have -- a price tag for all of these things?

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Romes187
02/24/20 1:24:20 PM
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Sanders: No, I don't. We try to -- no, you mentioned making public colleges and universities tuition free and canceling all student debt, that's correct. That's what I want to do. We pay for that through a modest tax on Wall Street speculation.

Cooper: But you say you don't know what the total price is, but you know how it's gonna be paid for. How do you know it's gonna be paid for if you don't know how much the price is?

Sanders: Well, I can't -- you know, I can't rattle off to you every nickel and every dime. But we have accounted for -- you -- you talked about "Medicare for All." We have options out there that will pay for it.

Interesting take from Bernie. Sounds like CNN is going hard on him now.
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s0nicfan
02/24/20 1:25:59 PM
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He's never going to put a price tag on it. Warren did and everyone ripped her apart for it because it's was completely unreasonable. He knows as long as he keeps promising all that stuff without ever explaining how it'll stay popular.

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AsucaHayashi
02/24/20 1:28:35 PM
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"whatever the cost is, the rich can afford it while the rest will pay their fair share"

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Romes187
02/24/20 1:41:59 PM
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It just seems like a p bad answer....any bernie fans wanna comment on this? Doesn't matter?
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E32005
02/24/20 1:42:42 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
He's never going to put a price tag on it. Warren did and everyone ripped her apart for it because it's was completely unreasonable. He knows as long as he keeps promising all that stuff without ever explaining how it'll stay popular.

hey, it got trump elected
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ToPoPO
02/24/20 1:42:47 PM
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How can we afford not to pay for it
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Romulox28
02/24/20 1:43:49 PM
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didnt he say he was going to fund this thru a tax on HFT

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s0nicfan
02/24/20 1:46:36 PM
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E32005 posted...
hey, it got trump elected

I didn't say it was an ineffective strategy. Just that it's clearly HIS strategy.

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emblem boy
02/24/20 1:46:46 PM
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I want to ask all the candidates what their plan is to lower costs as time goes on
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CruelBuffalo
02/24/20 1:51:17 PM
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60 minutes is not CNN, thats CBS where Anderson Cooper is one of the correspondents
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Romes187
02/24/20 1:51:38 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
didnt he say he was going to fund this thru a tax on HFT

sure i guess my rub is he admitted to not even knowing total costs so how does he know it'll pay for it

but as someone else mentioned, the tactic worked for trump so #yolo
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Romes187
02/24/20 1:52:29 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
60 minutes is not CNN, thats CBS where Anderson Cooper is one of the correspondents

Yes but CNN reported on it

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/24/politics/bernie-sanders-donald-trump-2020/index.html

I don't think Chris Cillizza is an opinion reporter :)

and look at that title
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CruelBuffalo
02/24/20 1:56:28 PM
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Romes187 posted...
Yes but CNN reported on it

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/24/politics/bernie-sanders-donald-trump-2020/index.html

I don't think Chris Cillizza is an opinion reporter :)

and look at that title

all news sites are reporting on that 60 minutes interview

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bernie-sanders-free-childcare-pre-k-wealth-tax
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AlephZero
02/24/20 1:56:43 PM
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I mean his plan to forgive student debt is to just wave a magic wand and make it disappear. Is it all that surprising he doesn't know how he plans to pay for his other multi trillion dollar a year plans.

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I Like Toast
02/24/20 1:58:00 PM
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Romes187 posted...
It just seems like a p bad answer....any bernie fans wanna comment on this? Doesn't matter?
Just pretend it's Romney talking about his tax plan

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Romes187
02/24/20 2:00:32 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
all news sites are reporting on that 60 minutes interview

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bernie-sanders-free-childcare-pre-k-wealth-tax

I'm sorry I don't think my point is coming across

I am surprised to see CNN go THAT hard. I know they don't like sanders that much (which is weird considering they didn't bring ANY of this up over the last...oh i dunno 4 years) but there ya go

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Romulox28
02/24/20 2:03:10 PM
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AlephZero posted...
I mean his plan to forgive student debt is to just wave a magic wand and make it disappear. Is it all that surprising he doesn't know how he plans to pay for his other multi trillion dollar a year plans.
maybe im missing something but why cant they just wave away student debt? its just money the government owes itself, there's no tangible product backing it like with a mortgage or car loan, the federal debt isnt securitized, etc

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s0nicfan
02/24/20 2:10:29 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
maybe im missing something but why cant they just wave away student debt? its just money the government owes itself, there's no tangible product backing it like with a mortgage or car loan, the federal debt isnt securitized, etc

The general counter-argument is that without significant additional measures you're going to be back to that level of debt in only a few years. Wiping away the current debt does not prevent new debt from forming and much like Bernie's other plans, all it does is temporarily eliminate the symptom without seriously addressing the cause. For example, Bernie's official student debt platform says he'll cancel current debt, make public colleges free, and cap interest rates. Okay... but the underlying problem is colleges charge too much. Nothing he's proposing actually FIXES that, so in a few years everyone going to private institutions will be saddled with the exact same debt and the tax bill to cover all the other institutions will skyrocket.

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Smackems
02/24/20 2:13:10 PM
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Romes187 posted...
It just seems like a p bad answer....any bernie fans wanna comment on this? Doesn't matter?
He should focus on Medicare for all and quit with this other stuff. It's too much all at one time.

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Romes187
02/24/20 2:18:59 PM
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Smackems posted...
He should focus on Medicare for all and quit with this other stuff. It's too much all at one time.

Probably a better strategy since healthcare is clearly not working for a large amount of americans

Dunno if he can walk it all back or if M4A is enough to win against trump with..but its better than these answers
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CruelBuffalo
02/24/20 3:03:16 PM
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Romes187 posted...
I'm sorry I don't think my point is coming across

I am surprised to see CNN go THAT hard. I know they don't like sanders that much (which is weird considering they didn't bring ANY of this up over the last...oh i dunno 4 years) but there ya go


Ah. I say ignore Clintonzilla
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Smackems
02/24/20 3:16:43 PM
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Romes187 posted...
Probably a better strategy since healthcare is clearly not working for a large amount of americans

Dunno if he can walk it all back or if M4A is enough to win against trump with..but its better than these answers
He will probably keep touting the other stuff to get elected, and if elected I would hope M4A would be the issue he focused on and he'd likely let the others fall to the wayside.

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Romes187
02/24/20 4:14:24 PM
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Smackems posted...
He will probably keep touting the other stuff to get elected, and if elected I would hope M4A would be the issue he focused on and he'd likely let the others fall to the wayside.

Maybe but he needs to have better answers and NOT say these things on camera unless he wants trump sitting in front of his vacation house holding a rally, and blasting his answers on a giant big screen tv*

*if he wants to get elected
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Smackems
02/24/20 6:09:57 PM
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Romes187 posted...
Maybe but he needs to have better answers and NOT say these things on camera unless he wants trump sitting in front of his vacation house holding a rally, and blasting his answers on a giant big screen tv*

*if he wants to get elected
I agree I would like better answers. I just think that a lot of the stuff he's saying is to kowtow to proponents of those things and that he would focus mostly on m4a. But we will see.

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s0nicfan
02/24/20 6:14:35 PM
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Smackems posted...
I agree I would like better answers. I just think that a lot of the stuff he's saying is to kowtow to proponents of those things and that he would focus mostly on m4a. But we will see.

The problem with this angle is that one of Bernie's biggest strengths has been the consistency of his message and the collective belief by his fans that he really means everything he says. "He's just saying these things to kowtow" is basically antithetical to his entire platform.

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