Current Events > I hate how all horror movies have to be a metaphor now

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Hereditary, midsommar, us, the light house.

the monster is a deep meaning for ones repressed feeling about not wanting to eat broccoli. Thats why hes green and the main character has a dream in the middle of the movie of a steak killing him!

like why cant it just legitimately be about a god damn monster just killing people

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Empathizing or identifying with the monster can often make it creepier and more unsettling.

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Me no thinky

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hasn't it been that way for a long time?

like, Night of the Living Dead being an allegory for consumerism, Dracula being about puritanical fears/sex, werewolves coinciding with menstruation, etc

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hockeybub89 posted...

Me no thinky

Yeah great logic. Lets just not understand what the lighthouse was about and have 90 different theories about what people think it means, which just ruins the movie experience. Because youre now watching close to 3 hour movies that could possibly be an interpretation of something that the director never goes into detail about

nice try tho

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What do horror movies have against broccoli? It's a top tier vegetable.

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darkprince45 posted...

Yeah great logic. Lets just not understand what the lighthouse was about and have 90 different theories about what people think it means, which just ruins the movie experience. Because youre now watching close to 3 hour movies that could possibly be an interpretation of something that the director never goes into detail about

nice try tho

So is your problem movies having a deep meaning, or movies not telling you their meaning?

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hockeybub89 posted...

So is your problem movies having a deep meaning, or movies not telling you their meaning?

that every horror movie doesnt have to be some full of itself artistic shit. Lets take look at A Quiet Place. Just a movie about some damn monsters ruining the world. But Im sure somewhere somebody is saying its a hidden movie about trump ruining America or some shit

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Bad take my dude
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hockeybub89 posted...

Me no thinky

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Its really not. Everything is trying to be way to hard and artsy but if you read the receptions to all these movies like the one I listed. They just feature gruesome scenes that entertain people but theres no coherence to anything. Its just a bunch of metaphorical stuff and cuts thrown together to an ending where nobody knows what happened. If you read reactions and comments. Everybodys first response Is im confused, wtf was this movie about. Now go to a discussion about 89 different theories about what happened if it was even real or just a Dream/trick/metaphor

Now take a look at a movie like Inception that had an ending like the above. But whats the difference? A proper story and narrative with an actual endgame and a option a or b ending which you can really choose to believe one but the other is ultimately the correct one.

or the lighthouse, where nobody still knows what the fuck actually happened or what they watched


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Here Are the great arguments no thinky as an excuse to incoherent movies that arent even movies anymore but an art project

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Having to spend several hours reading after watching a movie that ultimately has no actual defined plot to what actually did happen....is not thinky its just pretentious film making. Because nobody knows what the directors vision is anymore. Its just everyone elses opinion. Like going to a nice restaurant with a set menu, then have missing items and then youre replacing items on the menu with what you want. Terrible dining experience

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what was the metaphor in cabin in the woods

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darkprince45 posted...

Having to spend several hours reading after watching a movie that ultimately has no actual defined plot to what actually did happen....is not thinky its just pretentious film making

Just because you didn't get it at first doesn't mean other people won't either.

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darkprince45 posted...

that every horror movie doesnt have to be some full of itself artistic shit. Lets take look at A Quiet Place. Just a movie about some damn monsters ruining the world.

You just contradicted yourself.

Anyway, many horror movies aren't anything more than mindless jumpscares. The only reasons it seems like "every" horror movie has some deeper meaning behind it is that many of the good ones do. The dumb haunted house movies usually suck so you don't pay attention to them at all.

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So you want a horror film like Halloween (1978)?

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Corrupt_Power posted...

Just because you didn't get it at first doesn't mean other people won't either.

https://i.vgy.me/voU2Nb.jpg

You're clearly not reading anything I say and think posting a stupid picture that has no relevance is a better answer than actually using brain.

google the lighthouse Reddit and see how nobody can agree what the movie is actually about. Its not that I didnt get it its that the ultimate meaning of the narrative doesnt have an actual explanation. So in the end youre never understanding the real directors vision because everybody has their own opinion as to what they believe actually happened


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YukihoHagiwara posted...

what was the metaphor in cabin in the woods

I thought it was pretty clearly a send up of our (the audience) tastes in horror films and how over decades of horror in cinema, we are desensitized to so much that nothing entertains us anymore. So something has to appease us or else we will go bitch about it on the Internet, or, in the context of the film the old gods will rise and destroy everything.

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YukihoHagiwara posted...

what was the metaphor in cabin in the woods

There should be no metaphor. Unless you want to count spoofing horror tropes. Its just a monster movie. Thats all it should be

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I just want a movie like Evil Dead 2

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Most good horror is a combination of subtext and craft since the creation of the genre. Can't say much about Lighthouse. Maybe it wasn't for you, I havent seen it but I've heard good things. But don't completely write off some horror movies because they have a deeper meaning because those are the good ones lol
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YukihoHagiwara posted...

what was the metaphor in cabin in the woods

The way Thor slammed his motorcycle into an invisible forcefield reflects the way his character in Endgame ran into an invisible forcefield of depression and got fat.

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Even Godzilla, the most well known movie monster, was originally a metaphor for the dangers of nuclear proliferation. Actually a lot of 50's monster movies had to do with nukes and radiation.

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evil_zombie11 posted...

I just want a movie like Evil Dead 2

In my opinion the first movie is the best horror movie of all time. Its just a simple movie about friends being stuck in a cabin with a demon.

if evil dead was released today. The story would
be changed to fit a metaphor that the cabin is actually a metaphor for Mother Nature killing people as an act of revenge for the damage humans did to her forest and trees by building a cabin. And that ash represents your typical American man and chopping off his hand is an expression of man really letting go of the things that hold him down in life. His boomstick is the double meaning of life

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Smashingpmkns posted...

Most good horror is a combination of subtext and craft since the creation of the genre. Can't say much about Lighthouse. Maybe it wasn't for you, I havent seen it but I've heard good things. But don't completely write off some horror movies because they have a deeper meaning because those are the good ones lol

i liked the lighthouse, I like the visuals. But ultimately it added up to nothing and explained nothing and nobody has an actual theory as to what actually happened.


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darkprince45 posted...

Corrupt_Power posted...

Just because you didn't get it at first doesn't mean other people won't either.

https://i.vgy.me/voU2Nb.jpg

You're clearly not reading anything I say and think posting a stupid picture that has no relevance is a better answer than actually using brain.

google the lighthouse Reddit and see how nobody can agree what the movie is actually about. Its not that I didnt get it its that the ultimate meaning of the narrative doesnt have an actual explanation. So in the end youre never understanding the real directors vision because everybody has their own opinion as to what they believe actually happened

A movie's point can be that it is open to interpretation. You're just really bent out of shape over something that really shouldn't be this inciting.
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real smoothbrain hours

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I showed a good example of open to interpretation like Inceptions end. Because it made sense and everything was constructed to lead to that point. But most horror movies today are doing the opposite of that

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Cookie Bag posted...

real smoothbrain hours

Im sorry Ive made good points and youve your smoothbrain to type 3 words

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Liked Us and the begging/end of Hereditary, but the insanely dull and slow middle section has killed any interest I might have had in watching Midsommar or The Light House. I can't do the slowburn stuff...puts me to sleep. :\

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darkprince45 posted...

Hereditary

but what is the ancient demon a metaphor for

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I recommend checking out The Bye Bye Man and Truth or Dare. Those dont have any metaphors. Or do they?

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This topic is a metaphor for being unable to enjoy things without overthinking them.

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darkprince45 posted...

There should be no metaphor. Unless you want to count spoofing horror tropes. Its just a monster movie. Thats all it should be

Bruh, are you really trying to argue that there's no metaphor in Cabin in the Woods

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au_gold posted...

I recommend checking out The Bye Bye Man and Truth or Dare. Those dont have any metaphors. Or do they?

So if it doesnt have a metaphor its a terrible movie? *looks at evil dead*

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pegusus123456 posted...

Bruh, are you really trying to argue that there's no metaphor in Cabin in the Woods

Its a horror parody of old school horror tropes thats it

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darkprince45 posted...

Its a horror parody of old school horror tropes thats it

Really

I mean, I'm mostly on your side but that's dumb as hell. Cabin in the Woods has a pretty blatant metaphor.

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pegusus123456 posted...

Really

I mean, I'm mostly on your side but that's dumb as hell. Cabin in the Woods has a pretty blatant metaphor.

I think its just satirical which is what the creators have described it as

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darkprince45 posted...

Im sorry Ive made good points and youve your smoothbrain to type 3 words

Your points weren't good at all and they don't deserve any more though than calling you a smoothbrain if you think like this about horror movies.

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Cookie Bag posted...

Your points weren't good at all and they don't deserve any more though than calling you a smoothbrain if you think like this about horror movies.

Wrong

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It literally was demonic forces in Hereditary though. The movie was basically Rosemary's Baby with less ambiguity.
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Can't think of a film that wasn't what tc describes

Gafemage posted...

It literally was demonic forces in Hereditary though. The movie was basically Rosemary's Baby with less ambiguity.

Isnt the movie just a Metaphor for mental illness

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boxington posted...

hasn't it been that way for a long time?

like, Night of the Living Dead being an allegory for consumerism, Dracula being about puritanical fears/sex, werewolves coinciding with menstruation, etc

This, horror has often been about allegory. There's a great doc about the allegory of slasher flicks, like Halloween, Friday the 13th and so on...

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darkprince45 posted...

In my opinion the first movie is the best horror movie of all time. Its just a simple movie about friends being stuck in a cabin with a demon.

if evil dead was released today. The story would
be changed to fit a metaphor that the cabin is actually a metaphor for Mother Nature killing people as an act of revenge for the damage humans did to her forest and trees by building a cabin. And that ash represents your typical American man and chopping off his hand is an expression of man really letting go of the things that hold him down in life. His boomstick is the double meaning of life

sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...

the movie was still like 7 years ago. The woke phase hadnt started

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hockeybub89 posted...

Me no thinky

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Nah, art projects are not the same as movies. Movies need to be an entertainment experience

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