Current Events > MLB commissioner says World Series trophy/ring is just a piece of metal.

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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Reggie Bush and the USC Trojans are still champions. And anyone else thats had anything taken away are still champions. Hes right in a way. Should be playing for the win, not for the ring.

They didnt cheat on the field, outside of the Bush Push.

Which is why bringing it up is dumb.

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Who gives a fuck about this? Idk why everyone is so pissed off about this situation. I sincerely hope that no one here believes that the Astros are the only team doing this.

Every fucking team does something like this, the only difference is that the Astros are the only ones that were caught.

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Sorry friends

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Tryin2GetDaPipe posted...

Who gives a fuck about this? Idk why everyone is so pissed off about this situation. I sincerely hope that no one here believes that the Astros are the only team doing this.

Every fucking team does something like this, the only difference is that the Astros are the only ones that were caught.

They aren't the only ones who were caught, again this is the same basic thing the red sox were doing with apple watches

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Astros/comments/f5c0vk/harold_reynolds_explaining_altuves_at_bat_vs/

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What the astros do that should have lead to them losing a championship?
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DeadBankerDream posted...

What the astros do that should have lead to them losing a championship?

remember Stomp? the broadway smash hit Stomp.

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DeadBankerDream posted...

What the astros do that should have lead to them losing a championship?

They used cameras to sign steal than would alert the batter when offspeed pitches were coming

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No, I don't.
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I Like Toast posted...

They used cameras to sign steal than would alert the batter when offspeed pitches were coming

I don't know what that means, but I get the gist of it and that seems indefensible.
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GallisOTK posted...

I hope a team (probably the Yankees or Dodgers) just decides to take one game against the Astros and spend the whole first inning putting fastballs in their hitters' backs. Don't try to injure them by going for the head, just make a statement. Bean Altuve, bean Correa, bean Bregman, bean every Astro hitter that was on that 2017 team.

No team will do this because Manfred said any team that does this will face harsher penalties than the Astros did.

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Holy_Cloud105 posted...

No team will do this because Manfred said any team that does this will face harsher penalties than the Astros did.

no team will do this because there's no fucking benefit
put batters on base for free because REVANGE even though the most egregious users of the cheating system aren't with the team anymore anyway?

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Aristoph posted...

Maybe this will finally be enough to kill baseball?

I mean, of course it won't. But one can dream, I suppose.

sportsball is bad, am i rite
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The Trent posted...

no team will do this because there's no fucking benefit
put batters on base for free because REVANGE even though the most egregious users of the cheating system aren't with the team anymore anyway?

Pitchers were already saying they were going to throw at the Astros so I don't know about that. Mike Clevinger said he was gonna practice throwing as hard as he could to hit them when he faces them. Also, the Astros would run out of players first from suspensions due to fighting if the other AL teams all threw at them.

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Uh...he is right. It is just a piece of metal. The championship is an idea. It's about what the history books say. OJ Simpson is still a Heisman winner even though he sold his trophy.

YellowMustard69 posted...

Uh...he is right. It is just a piece of metal. The championship is an idea. It's about what the history books say. OJ Simpson is still a Heisman winner even though he sold his trophy.

You just contradicted yourself in your own post.

If the history books say "No Winner" for the 2017 World Series, that is meaningful. Just like how "No Winner" for 1994 is meaningful.
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DeadBankerDream posted...

I don't know what that means, but I get the gist of it and that seems indefensible.

Its always been one of those things thats happened but its like an unwritten rule on how to do it. Its player to player type of stuff, like in nfl picking up audibles and shit. Once you bring cameras and just even thought into it then youre fucking up big time and youre fucking with all sorts of the integrity of the game.

but theyll always be champions no matter what happens

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Holy_Cloud105 posted...

Pitchers were already saying they were going to throw at the Astros so I don't know about that. Mike Clevinger said he was gonna practice throwing as hard as he could to hit them when he faces them. Also, the Astros would run out of players first from suspensions due to fighting if the other AL teams all threw at them.

many pitchers have said this. and manfreds stupidity has only made it worse and increased the ire among players.

this is what happens when you are a coward of a commissioner and dont punish the guilty.

the only thing that will stop this is stripping the title and punishing the individual players; as should have happened from the onset.

Damn_Underscore posted...

You just contradicted yourself in your own post.

If the history books say "No Winner" for the 2017 World Series, that is meaningful. Just like how "No Winner" for 1994 is meaningful.

Yes that is meaningful. Whether or not somebody had to give their rings back is not.

Jagr_68 posted...

Why are all these sport commissioners the worst pieces of shit of all time?

I will say Manfred replaced Bettman off the top spot with that extremely dumb move.

Might have something to do with that they generally serve the interests of the owners above all. And look how many owners across all sports are huge pieces of shit.

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YellowMustard69 posted...

Yes that is meaningful. Whether or not somebody had to give their rings back is not.

The reason this is news is that Manfred totally missed the point.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

The reason this is news is that it's the offseason without anything to change the narrative

Ftfy


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I Like Toast posted...

Ftfy

you a mad astros fan?

inb4 the astros cheating remains news all season.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

you a mad astros fan?

inb4 the astros cheating remains news all season.

Even worse, he's a Chicago fan.

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The red Sox already proved it will go away as games are played. The Patriots already proved cheating for a title doesn't matter.

But you know that and that's why you went for the sad you're an astros fan line.

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I Like Toast posted...

The red Sox already proved it will go away as games are played. The Patriots already proved cheating for a title doesn't matter.

But you know that and that's why you went for the sad you're an astros fan line.

Hey, New England fans are nuts too!!
Let's be fair here!!
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more players piled on today including lebron james

manfred is a little loser. had a sweaty upper lip in that interview. nervous much??

mustachedmystic posted...

Show us on the doll where baseball touched you. Seriously though why would you want baseball to die?

Well first of all it's a joke of a "sport" that requires almost zero athleticism. It's actually possible for a player to go an entire game without ever having to run more than 3 steps. That's pretty pathetic, imo. Though I suppose it does make sense being "America's Pasttime" considering how lazy this country is.

And secondly, the season lasts forever. Not inherently bad on its own, but I am so sick of hearing nothing but baseball talk on the radio for 9 months of the year. My driving time instantly gets 1000x more insufferable once football season ends.

Damn_Underscore posted...

sportsball is bad, am i rite

No, just Baseball. Football is great. Basketball as a sport is pretty good, but I think the quality of the product the NBA has been putting on the court in recent years is getting tough to watch. There's basically only 2 or 3 teams that have any chance at all, and the regular season is little more than a formality at this point. Still, that's a problem with the current league/players/owners/etc, rather than a problem with the sport itself. I'm sure things will change with time and it'll come back around again.

The very concept of Baseball as a sport is just terrible, though.

EDIT: Since someone will probably have a go at me for it, I'll mention that I also enjoy sports that aren't a part of the "big 3" like hockey, soccer, and hell even cricket is more entertaining than baseball.

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Aristoph posted...

Though I suppose it does make sense being "America's Pasttime" considering how lazy this country is.

And secondly, the season lasts forever. Not inherently bad on its own, but I am so sick of hearing nothing but baseball talk on the radio for 9 months of the year. My driving time instantly gets 1000x more insufferable once football season ends.

Are you kidding me? Most 'sports talk' is all Football.
I have it on right now, they are going on about Football.
America never SFTU about football. It's embarrassing.

And lol @ 'sports talk' almost never talking about hockey.
Sports talk in my area could easily be talking about The Rangers, Islanders, Sabers, Bruins, or Habs. ...But we get zero of it...zero.
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It's weird, I know hockey is smaller than the other 3, but generally sports in America are referred as the big four with hockey included.


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Aristoph posted...

Well first of all it's a joke of a "sport" that requires almost zero athleticism. It's actually possible for a player to go an entire game without ever having to run more than 3 steps. That's pretty pathetic, imo. Though I suppose it does make sense being "America's Pasttime" considering how lazy this country is.

You know literally nothing about baseball if you honestly believe this. One of the most moronic takes you could ever have.

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Yeah, a piece of medal to signify a championship win in the sport, not to mention the advertising dollars that the team and players will get after. Stupid opinion.

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PiOverlord posted...

It's weird, I know hockey is smaller than the other 3, but generally sports in America are referred as the big four with hockey included.

Ya it's annoying. I would love to listen to a Rangers game, but it no where on the radio dial.
Hell any of the teams I named. And now that we don't have a local American League team, I can't even listen to that.
We used to at least have the AL Devils team which was fun to listen to. >_>
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SiO4 posted...

Ya it's annoying. I would love to listen to a Rangers game, but it no where on the radio dial.

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I Like Toast posted...

I tried that. It doesn't work.
My best chance would be an AM bleed that I could pull in at night.
I still haven't found a reliable one. I'm about 30mins, north of albany.

Oh and get this, even though MSG is closer, we are considered a Sabers market. smh.
Not that I hate The Sabers...but still.
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Being out of market is a personal problem, get whatever the mlb.tv equivalent like I do to catch Cubs games

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I Like Toast posted...

Being out of market is a personal problem, get whatever the mlb.tv equivalent like I do to catch Cubs games

Oh, I can find them...I just prefer to plain old fashioned, tune in.
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Then live closer to the rangers so you get their radio station

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I Like Toast posted...

Then live closer to the rangers so you get their radio station

LOL< I'll try harder the next time.
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