Current Events > Proposed Alabama law requires men undergo vasectomy after their 50th birthday

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https://abc3340.com/news/local/proposed-alabama-law-would-require-men-undergo-vasectomy-on-their-50th-birthday

MONTGOMERY, Ala. (WBMA) -- A proposed Alabama law would require all men to undergo a vasectomy within one month of their 50th birthday or after the birth of their third child, whichever comes first.

HB-238 was authored by Rep. Rolanda Hollis (D-Birmingham) and would not only require all men over 50 to receive a vasectomy but it would also require them pay for the procedure out of their own pockets.

The only part of the proposed bill that gives a reasoning behind it is, "Under existing law, there are no restrictions on the reproductive rights of men."

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Crono99 posted...

Small government?

shes making a point and you bring out this weak ass shit?

republicans do this crap all the time.

She's really Making A Point.

on the plus side, it would mean less alabamian reproduction
on the down side, what the fuck is this nonsense sit down rolanda

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Someone writing a stupid bill to try to make some kind of point?
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Hmm.

Tmaster148 posted...

The only part of the proposed bill that gives a reasoning behind it is, "Under existing law, there are no restrictions on the reproductive rights of men."

So when it gets shot down they can be like "so why do there have to be laws for women"

Good move.

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Got em!

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The Trent posted...

on the plus side, it would mean less alabamian reproduction

xD you have a point here

She's obviously trying to make a point, but since there is not a similar law governing women it kinda doesn't make any sense and is likely just a waste of everyone's time

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emblem boy posted...

Someone writing a stupid bill to try to make some kind of point?

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Can someone explain the point she is trying to make? I really dont get it

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solosnake posted...

Can someone explain the point she is trying to make? I really dont get it

She just wants people to pay attention to her, its kinda sad really.

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eston posted...

She's obviously trying to make a point, but since there is not a similar law governing women it kinda doesn't make any sense and is likely just a waste of everyone's time

Isn't Alabama where they passed a law banning abortion for any reason and that led to a 12 year old girl being forced to have a baby after she was raped by her dad?

Does the government force women to get their tubes tied or a hysterectomy at
age 50 and/or after a third child?

Im confused at the point

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So, now we have Democrats proposing laws that even a dead cat would realize are unconstitutional. She probably thinks she's clever, and is wasting time to "make a point".

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The Trent posted...

on the plus side, it would mean less alabamian reproduction

This. This country needs less deep southern folk


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There must be some sort of radiation in Alabama, cause what the fuck

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Crono99 posted...

Well, she's obviously trying to do a "no u" kind of thing with abortions. The men want the law to tell a woman what to do with their bodies, so she's like, "well, what if the law told men what to do with their bodies?"

Ehhh, that seems like quite the stretch

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WashYourHands posted...

Does the government force women to get their tubes tied or a hysterectomy at
age 50 and/or after a third child?

Im confused at the point

I believe in some states the woman can't get it done unless she's already had a kid and has the husband's permission

So maybe the bill should've been more like that. No vasectomy unless your wife says it's okay and you already have children.

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solosnake posted...

Can someone explain the point she is trying to make? I really dont get it

Well I think she doesn't want old ass men having kids and then leaving them behind. Let's say a 65 year old man has a kid and then dies at 72, he will be leaving a 7 year old child behind. There's a chance that the family will have to rely more on welfare without the father's funds. She is probably trying to prevent that. Also having too many kids probably leads to more government assistance as well. So she probably trying to discourage that as well.

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Good. Curbing population growth in Alabama is a good thing.
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emblem boy posted...

Someone writing a stupid bill to try to make some kind of point?

Should be some sort of crime to do this.

just like filing a frivolous lawsuit or abusing 911.

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solosnake posted...

Ehhh, that seems like quite the stretch

As explained by Monty Python:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk

...or is that the opposite of this? It's hard to keep track of "no u" political shenanigans.

Evening_Dragon posted...

There must be some sort of radiation in Alabama, cause what the fuck

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I agree cuz the people there are from Alabama
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emblem boy posted...

Someone writing a stupid bill to try to make some kind of point?

Happens all the time. It's called revenge legislation and if it ever goes to vote the people who proposed it often vote against it.

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eston posted...

since there is not a similar law governing women

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Life_Protection_Act

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emblem boy posted...

Someone writing a stupid bill to try to make some kind of point?

I think it's pretty effective at making men realise how absurd and confronting it is to have a law control your genitals in this way

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mustachedmystic posted...

So, now we have Democrats proposing laws that even a dead cat would realize are unconstitutional. She probably thinks she's clever, and is wasting time to "make a point".

There's a Republican in Tennessee who wants to keep tampons off the list of items approved for purchase on their no-tax days because women might buy them in bulk and not pay tax.

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pinky0926 posted...

I think it's pretty effective at making men realise how absurd and confronting it is to have a law control your genitals in this way

It's not really the same

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She should have proposed a lower age than that like 35-40 to make it even more obvious that she's just trying to make a point. You gotta make it really ridiculous and unfair or it'll just fly over people's heads.

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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...

There's a Republican in Tennessee who wants to keep tampons off the list of items approved for purchase on their no-tax days because women might buy them in bulk and not pay tax.

Yup, that's why I said "now we have Democrats". And now I get to say "both sides".

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Too bad this is just gonna further enrage opponents of reproductive rights rather than instill a sense of empathy in them.

It reminds me of that time the Dems proposed a bill gutting school funding to make a point (in which state I forget), thinking it wouldn't pass, and the Republicans in control passed it.

SwordMaster13X posted...

Well I think she doesn't want old ass men having kids and then leaving them behind. Let's say a 65 year old man has a kid and then dies at 72, he will be leaving a 7 year old child behind. There's a chance that the family will have to rely more on welfare without the father's funds. She is probably trying to prevent that. Also having too many kids probably leads to more government assistance as well. So she probably trying to discourage that as well.

only way a 65 yo is having a kid with a fertile woman if hes rich.

pinky0926 posted...

I think it's pretty effective at making men realise how absurd and confronting it is to have a law control your genitals in this way

Lol you think this is effective? C'mon man

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SwordMaster13X posted...

Well I think she doesn't want old ass men having kids and then leaving them behind. Let's say a 65 year old man has a kid and then dies at 72, he will be leaving a 7 year old child behind. There's a chance that the family will have to rely more on welfare without the father's funds. She is probably trying to prevent that. Also having too many kids probably leads to more government assistance as well. So she probably trying to discourage that as well.

This is definitely not it
Chief

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pinky0926 posted...

emblem boy posted...

Someone writing a stupid bill to try to make some kind of point?

I think it's pretty effective at making men realise how absurd and confronting it is to have a law control your genitals in this way

Not really. This one specifically shows a lack of understanding as to why people even oppose abortion
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emblem boy posted...

Not really. This one specifically shows a lack of understanding as to why people even oppose abortion

Yeah. And anecdotal though it is, women I know are far more steadfast in their pro-life stance than men.

But yeah the discussion needs to be framed better than "pro-lifers are just old men wanting to CONTROL WOMEN'S BODIES!" and "Pro-choicers just want to MURDER BABIES ALL DAY!"

I don't think either is really much of a thing. It's mostly "I really believe this is a human life and stopping it is murder" and "I don't think it is yet."

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pinky0926 posted...

making men realise

imagine you're a conservative man who hears about this law, but NOT its context with the current abortion law, and a conservative media personality tells you that it was proposed because democrats want to neuter men

the problem with publicity lawmaking is that you can't control the narrative

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Sackgurl posted...

imagine you're a conservative man who hears about this law, but NOT its context with the current abortion law, and a conservative media personality tells you that it was proposed because democrats want to neuter men

the problem with publicity lawmaking is that you can't control the narrative

Nobody stupid enough to knee jerk react to conservative media's false narrative was going to budge anyway.

And to all the people in this topic getting mad about this (yes, all of you, regardless or your reason), try to understand that the feelings invoked are similar to the feelings women have when they hear about laws restricting their ability to get their tubes tied.

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DarkChozoGhost posted...

And to all the people in this topic getting mad about this (yes, all of you, regardless or your reason), try to understand that the feelings invoked are similar to the feelings women have when they hear about laws restricting their ability to get their tubes tied.

I'm unaware of any laws regarding women getting their tubes tied, but if this is specific to Alabama I suppose I shouldn't be surprised...

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She's obviously trying to make a point but its literal Alabama. Like which foaming at the mouth Talibama conservative is the point going to get to?

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The Top Crusader posted...

I'm unaware of any laws regarding women getting their tubes tied, but if this is specific to Alabama I suppose I shouldn't be surprised...

Single women with no children can't get their tubes tied anywhere in the US

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DarkChozoGhost posted...

Nobody stupid enough to knee jerk react to conservative media's false narrative was going to budge anyway.

i think that underestimates the power of conservative media

lots of people are much more stupid than they are hardline

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solosnake posted...

Can someone explain the point she is trying to make? I really dont get it

Women have laws that regulate their reproductive rights.

Men don't.

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