Current Events > bruh the moon landing had to be fake

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JBaLLEN66 posted...

yet the Apollo moon landings went flawlessly aside

go home, you're drunk

JBaLLEN66 posted...

what happened to your bait post?

Wat

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space isnt real to begin with, the moon isnt as far from earth as they tell us

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@ Alex Jones

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JBaLLEN66 posted...

Weve had Numerous astronauts die within 200 miles of the earth with todays technology

Only three people have died in space, and they were three Russians who died from decompression when returning to Earth. No one else has died in space, all deaths have been during takeoff or atmospheric reentry.

Six times weve sent people to the moon and six times they successfully launched back from the moon surface.

Why cant you take the governments word for it?You can trust the United States government.

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ModLogic posted...

wouldn't put it past america to cheat and just fake the moon landing

You really hate the United States lol

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bruh in 2020, Jesus Christ

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JBaLLEN66 posted...

Or you mean they cannot? Weve had Numerous astronauts die within 200 miles of the earth with todays technology, yet the Apollo moon landings went flawlessly aside from the first mission that never even made it to space?!?

That's a flimsy argument, people die plane crashes, yet many thousands of people fly all over the world everyday.

And as for this, which I forgot to respond to.

PS, the moon landings happened during the Vietnam war, so you dont sound cute with your lack of funds excuse.

If we used even half the money wasted on pointless wars for space travel, we could have permanent bases on the moon by now. Maybe even Mars(though it's a good thing we haven't triggered Doom 3 yet).

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Is the earth flat or round tc?

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OmegaShinkai posted...

Only three people have died in space, and they were three Russians who died from decompression when returning to Earth. No one else has died in space, all deaths have been during takeoff or atmospheric reentry.

lmao Im talking post Apollo pal

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the moon is a false front for a bunch of dudes looking for magic items

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The moon landing was faked on the moon. How hard is it for you SIMPLETONS to understand!

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So because America did it first all the other countries just quit? Sounds stupid to me. All that work up to that point just abandoned because America did it first?

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Spiderman23JII posted...

So because America did it first all the other countries just quit? Sounds stupid to me. All that work up to that point just abandoned because America did it first?

The main point of going to the moon was to be the first one to do it. To show that our way was better, that's it. JFK said so himself in 1960 or '61. Gorbachev admitted as much in the 1980's.

Maybe you want to do some independent research on the subject that doesn't involve YouTube.

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brestugo posted...

The main point of going to the moon was to be the first one to do it. To show that our way was better, that's it. JFK said so himself in 1960 or '61. Gorbachev admitted as much in the 1980's.

Maybe you you want to do some independent research on the subject that doesn't involve YouTube.

all YouTube has is crybaby debunking videos lol


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JBaLLEN66 posted...

all YouTube has is crybaby debunking videos lol

Conspiracy theories are not just a bad look. They make the holder seem stupid or crazy.

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Well maybe if we stopped defunding NASA, increasing our military budget, and calling space a waste of time, maybe we could do more cool shit in space.

What's the point of landing humans on the moon again? More rocks?

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JBaLLEN66 posted...

Weve had Numerous astronauts die within 200 miles of the earth

The number is 0, kind of like the same number of people you think were killed in the Holocaust.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

The number is 0, kind of like the same number of people you think were killed in the Holocaust.

Oh.

He's one of those. It all adds up now.

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hockeybub89 posted...

What's the point of landing humans on the moon again? More rocks?

That's the thing. They did just about everything you could think of already in the 7 manned moon landing missions and the many more unmanned landing missions in the 1970's. Just because people are ignorant of that doesn't constitute any elaborate conspiracy.

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They did everything... except building a base.

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Foppe posted...

They did everything... except building a base.

Technically they made a video game about building a base so they kinda did! It's just not a real base.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Technically they made a video game about building a base so they kinda did! It's just not a real base.

John Madden John Madden John Madden

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Foppe posted...

John Madden John Madden John Madden

Earth is flat. Confirmed. Confirmed. Sun is also flat.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Earth is flat. Confirmed. Confirmed. Sun is also flat.

Here Comes Another Chinese Earthquake!

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Foppe posted...

They did everything... except building a base.

They really should have gotten in while property values are low. Before the Martians buy up everything and turn it into mini malls and condos.

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Theres an ancient ever evolving android named Daneel Olivaw living in the center of the moon, and he's manipulating the entire universe using advanced physcohistorical mathematics so that we can all combine together to form one galactic consciousness to better be prepared to face the unfathomable threat that is inevitably approaching from the depths beyond out galaxy.
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We've literally gotten satellite images of the moon landing sites and some people still think the landings were fake.

Jesus christ.

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Allanon23 posted...

We've literally gotten satellite images of the moon landing sites and some people still think the landings were fake.

Jesus christ.

Well where are those images huh??!?

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Allanon23 posted...

We've literally gotten satellite images of the moon landing sites and some people still think the landings were fake.

Jesus christ.

Satellites sent up be the same company that landed om the moon

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Theres people on this planet that dont even know what the moon is.

https://youtu.be/XeKJImKpZyQ

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DD Divine posted...

Theres people on this planet that dont even know what the moon is.

https://youtu.be/XeKJImKpZyQ

As dumb as they are, the chick is legit hilarious and charismatic imo so I'll forgive her. Shes got one liners on the fly.
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"But things live on it, that means it's a planet."

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ModLogic posted...

wouldn't put it past america to cheat and just fake the moon landing

So you either believe the USSR didn't bother to track every object that America sent up into the stratosphere during the Cold War era of threatened nuclear annihilation; or you believe the Soviets knew exactly where Apollo 11 really was, but they were just too polite to expose the hoax because it seemed unfair to embarrass Nixon.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

The moon landing is only fake in the sense that we're technically already on it. Earth was destroyed thousands of years ago during the great food and the space ship known as Noah's Ark brought us and all the animals to the Moon. That's also why we can't find the garden of Eden. It's still on Earth.

So Lunar II: Eternal Blue wasn't too far offf the mark?

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DD Divine posted...

Theres people on this planet that dont even know what the moon is.

https://youtu.be/XeKJImKpZyQ

Not knowing what something is classified as does not mean not knowing what it is in a basic sense. Reading your first sentence I thought you meant there were people oblivious enough to not have noticed a glowing orb in the night sky under natural living circumstances.

Firewerx posted...

So you either believe the USSR didn't bother to track every object that America sent up into the stratosphere during the Cold War era of threatened nuclear annihilation; or you believe the Soviets knew exactly where Apollo 11 really was, but they were just too polite to expose the hoax because it seemed unfair to embarrass Nixon.

the soviets had way more to lose in this type of battle. Most Russians didnt even know about what Stalin did until Gorbachev started being more open to the civilians. Plus, how do you know the average Russian didnt call bullshit anyway?

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JBaLLEN66 posted...

the soviets had way more to lose in this type of battle. Most Russians didnt even know about what Stalin did until Gorbachev started being more open to the civilians. Plus, how do you know the average Russian didnt call bullshit anyway?

What?! It doesn't matter what the average Russian thought. Your average Russian was hardly in a position to know anything about what was, or was not, happening in outer space.

The Soviet authorities on the other hand, most definitely were. As I've already said: the Soviet military would have carefully tracked every object the Americans launched into the stratosphere and beyond -- because this was the depths of the Cold War, when everyone expected nuclear annihilation to rain down from above; therefore eagle eyes were firmly on the skies. If Apollo 11 was not on course for the Moon, did not orbit the Moon, and did not return from the Moon, the Soviet authorities would very quickly have been aware of it.

If they'd had solid information that NASA was lying, that capitalist America hadn't really beaten the Soviets to the Moon after all; if they could have turned Nixon's moment of triumph into a nightmare of embarrassment, then Brezhnev's government would have had absolutely no reason not to bellow it from the rooftops. There is no explanation for Soviet complicity in the "Apollo hoax" that isn't absurdly implausible. If they knew about "the hoax" yet covered it up in 1969 (again: for fuck's sake, why?!), not once in nearly 50 years has a single former Soviet official or scientist who was genuinely in a position to "know the truth" at the time has stepped forward to expose "the facts".

In fact, do you even know of a single former, similarly placed NASA scientist who has? Considering the hundreds of people who would have had inside knowledge about the greatest hoax of the 20th century, and that no conspiracy is ever truly watertight against leaks, it's the ridiculous conspiracy fantasies that I find hardest to believe -- not that Man walked oh the Moon.

If it's a choice between the "conventional story" and wacky Internet speculation about "the truth", I know which story is far more implausible, which one demands far greater suspension of disbelief. There's being open minded, and then there's being so open minded your brain actually falls out of your fucking head.

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Yeah, because Russians calling bs on an American achievement in the midst of the Cold War would have been totally credible, even more so than news coming out of Russia to this day. What evidence could they have even offered up to prove otherwise?

America: "Hey, we just went to the moon."

Russia: "Nuh-uh!"

It would be like watching a magician perform a magic trick. You know it's bs, but you can't figure out quite how they did it so you just keep your mouth shut.

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Ultima Dragon posted...

Yeah, because Russians calling bs on an American achievement in the midst of the Cold War would have been totally credible, even more so than news coming out of Russia to this day. What evidence could they have even offered up to prove otherwise?

America: "Hey, we just went to the moon."

Russia: "Nuh-uh!"

It would be like watching a magician perform a magic trick. You know it's bs, but you can't figure out quite how they did it so you just keep your mouth shut.

When someone has to resort to arguing that the Soviets remained silent because they were afraid that global audiences would be distrustful of "Soviet propaganda", you know that the "Moon landing conspiracy" theory doesn't have an argument that could punch its way out of a wet paper bag.

Where do you think Apollo 11 "really" went? Do you think it was just orbiting the Earth all throughout the mission time, and that the Soviets scratched their heads trying to work out a way to prove it but couldn't and so just gave up? Or do you believe it didn't even really take off at all? Jesus.

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Also, it doesn't jive with human nature. Like picture this scenario:

"Comrade Boris, America just became the first nation to set foot on the moon."

"Welp Demitri, better shit can the entire space program then."

It just doesn't make sense that the Soviets who were at that point first to every milestone in space wouldn't even try to get Russian boots on the moon, even if they weren't the first to do so. Especially when America supposedly did several times. Were they just going to take their word for what was up there?

To me that's like America developing the first nuke, then everyone else doesn't bother even trying because it's already been done. Defense is a bit different than exploration to be sure, but human dick measuring knows no limits.

If America really did go to the moon, it's perhaps the only example in human history where technology has actually regressed (and to a ridiculous degree, we're back to horse and buggy here) over the decades. Either that, or we're being kept in the dark and have already established bases on the moon and perhaps have traveled further or even communicated with another race, the sky is the limit.

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Saying that it doesn't make sense for the Soviets to abandon the Space Race just because the USSR lost it is like saying it doesn't make sense for the Americans to abandon the Space Race even though the USA won it. But that's what happened.

It's not so much that technology's regressed -- what's regressed is the political will to spend money on technology that won't bear fruit for at least a couple of administrations.

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Okay, so say we don't go back for another fifty years. Say we don't go to Mars or anything like that. Is that still cool?

Imagine being a kid in school and learning about how America landed on the moon several times in the fucking 1960's, and then just.. never again.

That's like an oceanic researcher dipping his toe in the Pacific and then being like "Well, I'm done here. I've seen all I needed to see."

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There's nothing particularly useful there, give or take helium-3 and a small pocket of thorium.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compton%E2%80%93Belkovich_Thorium_Anomaly
https://www.bbvaopenmind.com/en/science/physics/helium-3-lunar-gold-fever/

The rest of the moon is essentially made of asbestos.
https://www.universetoday.com/96208/the-moon-is-toxic/

Y'all keep saying that technology regressed, it didn't. We just stopped going, and the Soviets stopped trying because both sides only had so much money(especially the USSR), and both countries had more pressing concerns to use their limited resources on.

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mustachedmystic posted...

Y'all keep saying that technology regressed, it didn't. We just stopped going, and the Soviets stopped trying because both sides only had so much money(especially the USSR), and both countries had more pressing concerns to use their limited resources on.

The thing with technology is that it becomes cheaper and more easily available over time. The Apollo missions accomplished what they did with all the technology of a pocket calculator essentially. A significant portion of people on Earth now carry something several magnitudes stronger in the palm of their hands or their pockets.. a smart phone.

What would be so damning expense wise if we were to try this today? The calculations, telemetry data, etc.. have already been completed and proven several times over. All that would be left to do would be to construct something using far better and more efficient technology that costs less than what it did in 1969.. and give it a go.

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Ultima Dragon posted...

The thing with technology is that it becomes cheaper and more easily available over time. The Apollo missions accomplished what they did with all the technology of a pocket calculator essentially. A significant portion of people on Earth now carry something several magnitudes stronger in the palm of their hands or their pockets.. a smart phone.

What would be so damning expense wise if we were to try this today? The calculations, telemetry data, etc.. have already been completed and proven several times over. All that would be left to do would be to construct something using far better and more efficient technology that costs less than what it did in 1969.. and give it a go.

All you're really saying there though is that the barriers aren't really technological, but rather political (and the economy is a political issue). Which isn't really in dispute. I don't claim to know the ins and outs of the history of NASA budget cuts, but I think they've shown that the commitment just isn't really there.

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