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solosnake
02/13/20 11:21:50 AM
#51:


Fuck Chaos emerald number 6, this is ridiculous

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PowerOats
02/13/20 11:27:05 AM
#52:


Have you beaten the game yet? If not how far are you?
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solosnake
02/13/20 11:43:56 AM
#53:


PowerOats posted...
Have you beaten the game yet? If not how far are you?
I got to zone 4 then started over to collect chaos emeralds, now im in zone 2 act 1 going for number 7.

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solosnake
02/13/20 12:06:02 PM
#54:


7th chaos emerald was easy compared to some of the others imo. Anyway, gonna take a break for now, my thumb hurts lol

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Lunar_Savage
02/13/20 12:14:01 PM
#55:


Getting the chaos emeralds are a pain in the ass.

I love the blue sphere mini-games and am pretty good at them. The ones that will drive you crazy are the ones that have so many spheres that you get a boost to your speed to the point where if you don't start anticipating upcoming turns by memorizing each level's map, you're screwed. The good news though is that memorizing the maps is a matter of trial and error. The maps are easy to memorize and almost every single one follows a pattern that repeats 2-8 times. So once you know what each area of the level looks like, you can anticipate every upcoming turn and jump and can even know your running route before you even start moving.

If you need help, you can literally find maps of the stages.

All that said, I'm very glad they were not the required mini-games for the chaos emeralds.

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Illuminoius
02/13/20 5:34:15 PM
#56:


the blue sphere stages are super easy
except for the occasional unintuitive layout, they're pretty much impossible to lose because of how easy the mechanics are
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SiO4
02/13/20 5:36:13 PM
#57:


solosnake posted...

I got to zone 4 then started over to collect chaos emeralds, now im in zone 2 act 1 going for number 7.


You can get six by Zone 2?
So about how many big rings are there, on average per-act.

Also, what are the blue rings you can get from the boxes?
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Illuminoius
02/13/20 5:39:33 PM
#58:


the blue rings basically exist to group up your scattered rings and make them easier to recollect
you'll notice when getting hit after grabbing a blue ring monitor that your dropped rings are less numerous and larger

you can indeed get at least six emeralds by zone 2
the average act has two special stages, with some having more
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PowerOats
02/13/20 5:42:40 PM
#59:


apparently there are 63 rings in the main mode, but some characters may not be able to get to them for one reason or another.

Theres enough rings to pretty much always find one per act
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SiO4
02/13/20 5:44:16 PM
#60:


Illuminoius posted...
the blue rings basically exist to group up your scattered rings and make them easier to recollect
you'll notice when getting hit after grabbing a blue ring monitor that your dropped rings are less numerous and larger

you can indeed get at least six emeralds by zone 2
the average act has two special stages, with some having more


Okay cool. And ya I did sorta notice that about the Blue rings, but I'd figure I'd ask.
I don't feel like a necessarily collect more, but still pretty cool.
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solosnake
02/13/20 6:01:33 PM
#61:


I just finished zone 4 The flying battery. Wasnt my favorite

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Kaliesto
02/13/20 6:02:45 PM
#62:


It is on the same level with S3&K

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Distant_Rainbow
02/13/20 6:25:53 PM
#63:


SiO4 posted...
You can get six by Zone 2?
So about how many big rings are there, on average per-act.

Playing perfectly for the giant rings, you get five by the end of Green Hill Zone, and the leftover two one minute into Chemical Plant Zone.

There's always at least 2 hidden per act, IIRC. Many of them have 3, with only the acts near the end having one.

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solosnake
02/13/20 6:32:26 PM
#64:


It feels like the acts are about twice as long as they were in Sonic 2. But then again i havent played the classic games in about a decade or more.

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PowerOats
02/13/20 6:34:36 PM
#65:


Flying Battery Act 2 is one of the longest levels in the game, if you take the top route. Generally that level and another is where people are more likely to reach a time over
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SiO4
02/13/20 6:51:42 PM
#66:


hDistant_Rainbow posted...


Playing perfectly for the giant rings, you get five by the end of Green Hill Zone, and the leftover two one minute into Chemical Plant Zone.

There's always at least 2 hidden per act, IIRC. Many of them have 3, with only the acts near the end having one.


Ahh, okay. I have been memorizing some if I get too far in, I just start over.
Still as of now, I am advancing along within reason. Plus learning the act as I go.
It is cool that they force you to explore a little.
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sailormoon13
02/13/20 8:44:02 PM
#67:


best 2d sonic since s3&k

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solosnake
02/13/20 8:44:39 PM
#68:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_rijngb900

Just finished Stardust Speedway

Damn, what a level. This is fantastic

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EffectAndCause
02/13/20 8:47:22 PM
#69:


butthole666 posted...
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The Rogue Cobra
02/14/20 4:41:25 AM
#70:


solosnake posted...
It feels like the acts are about twice as long as they were in Sonic 2. But then again i havent played the classic games in about a decade or more.
Sonic 3 was the same back then, this game follows in those footsteps.

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SiO4
02/14/20 7:01:48 AM
#71:


PowerOats posted...
Flying Battery Act 2 is one of the longest levels in the game, if you take the top route. Generally that level and another is where people are more likely to reach a time over


Ya, this game is one of the first times...if not the only time, I had to restart due to a time over screen.
It hasn't been a huge issue, but I've seen it in this one more than any....but mostly due to reasonable reasons.

I can see what the Dev was trying in this.
I hope he gets another shot, and much more room to expand on his own ideas for Zones.
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solosnake
02/14/20 7:55:22 AM
#72:


How many of the zones are original?

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solosnake
02/14/20 7:57:57 AM
#73:


Also, Im down to like 9 lives on oil ocean now, not sure im gonna make it :/

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SiO4
02/14/20 8:24:52 AM
#74:


solosnake posted...
How many of the zones are original?


So far only one, and flying battery seems to be a more or less straight port. Thats as far as I've gotten.
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Distant_Rainbow
02/14/20 10:10:40 AM
#75:


solosnake posted...
How many of the zones are original?

4 out of the 12 zones.

SiO4 posted...
So far only one, and flying battery seems to be a more or less straight port. Thats as far as I've gotten.

That's only for Act 1. Flying Battery Act 2 is a blatant mishmash of its namesake zone and Sonic 2's Wing Fortress, plus a few novel mechanics.

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Strider102
02/14/20 10:24:10 AM
#76:


solosnake posted...
Also, Im down to like 9 lives on oil ocean now, not sure im gonna make it :/

You have 3 stages left. Don't give up!

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solosnake
02/14/20 10:44:25 AM
#77:


Oh shit, steam is having a sonic sale!!!!

Is the encore DLC worth it for $2.50?, hell probably just gonna buy it.

Edit: How are the steam versions of sonic 2 and sonic 3&K? they are only like $1.25 atm

And is Sonic Generations worth $5?

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Strider102
02/14/20 11:00:44 AM
#78:


solosnake posted...
Oh shit, steam is having a sonic sale!!!!

Is the encore DLC worth it for $2.50?, hell probably just gonna buy it.

Edit: How are the steam versions of sonic 2 and sonic 3&K? they are only like $1.25 atm

And is Sonic Generations worth $5?

Yeah I'd say Encore is worth it for the difficulty alone. Keep in mind you don't get lives in the traditional sense.

Sonic Generations most people really liked, it's just really short.

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The Rogue Cobra
02/14/20 11:02:44 AM
#79:


Those prices are a steal all around, but can't comment on steam Sonic 2 and 3

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solosnake
02/14/20 11:09:12 AM
#80:


Looks like every sonic game is anywhere from 75%-85% off.

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BlazinBlue88
02/14/20 11:11:52 AM
#81:


solosnake posted...
And is Sonic Generations worth $5?
lol yeah man. Generations was the best Sonic game released at it's time. That's not saying much considering the Sonic franchise but still. If you like Sonic, you'll enjoy it well enough.

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The_Scarecrow
02/14/20 11:16:31 AM
#82:


Hope Mania 2 is one of the next Sonic games that gets announced next year.

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Alpha218
02/14/20 11:59:08 AM
#83:


solosnake posted...
How many of the zones are original?
4

SiO4 posted...
So far only one, and flying battery seems to be a more or less straight port. Thats as far as I've gotten.
None of the levels are straight ports

Generally an old zone brought into Mania is: Act 1 - original Acts mashed together. Act 2 - Reimagined level. Sometimes incorporating elements from other old Sonic stages, or completely new ones

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solosnake
02/14/20 12:00:30 PM
#84:


Just finished Metallic Madness, so far that was my least favorite of the Zones

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Alpha218
02/14/20 12:01:32 PM
#85:


Its still leaps and bounds better than the original level

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ViewtifulGrave
02/14/20 12:30:27 PM
#86:


BakonBitz posted...
That would be Takashi Iizuka, but yeah. Iizuka pushed for it to have classic zones thrown in.
Yeah... I got their names mixed up.

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solosnake
02/14/20 12:48:29 PM
#87:


Well, I beat the game. Overall pretty fantastic, but I still think I like sonic 2 a bit more.

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Lunar_Savage
02/14/20 12:51:27 PM
#88:


I'm a little late to the party, but Generations is great. For $5 it is a steal.

Since we're asking about Sonic games, does anyone know how Forces was? I held off because the game looked a little sketchy...like a quick cash grab using the Generations formula with some experimental stuff. The last experimental Hedgehog game for me was Unleashed and I have a love/hate with it.

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The Rogue Cobra
02/14/20 1:01:50 PM
#89:


Forces is meh. You might have fun with it here and there but largely you'll be asking where the rest of the game is since everything ends right when it starts ramping up. But it's also not a train wreck or anything broken.

Physics are somehow a step backwards from Generations, I will say that. The characters feel like trash.

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Lunar_Savage
02/14/20 1:05:24 PM
#90:


The Rogue Cobra posted...
Forces is meh. You might have fun with it here and there but largely you'll be asking where the rest of the game is since everything ends right when it starts ramping up. But it's also not a train wreck or anything broken.

Physics are somehow a step backwards from Generations, I will say that. The characters feel like trash.

Well, that's unfortunate.

But, I'm not surprised. Maybe if I find it in a bargain bin then.

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SiO4
02/14/20 6:39:20 PM
#91:


Strider102 posted...
And is Sonic Generations worth $5?


Yes, it is very good. However, for some reason, I get an error report on my PC.
It must have something to do with my monitor...this is one other game have been unplayable ever since I got it.

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