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AzurexNightmare
02/09/20 12:19:38 AM
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Happened. Someone fill me in? Everyone seems to know and I don't feel like reading a long ass article with a shit load of fluff.

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Chicken
02/09/20 12:20:52 AM
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People ate bats so the bats infected themselves with a virus so that when the people ate more bats they would get sick and stop eating bats so much

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Kaiganeer
02/09/20 12:21:10 AM
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bats and the chinese being the chinese
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viewmaster_pi
02/09/20 12:23:41 AM
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for real, i think it's time to stop eating disgusting bullshit and grinding animal bones into dust for boner pills and shit

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Dark_SilverX
02/09/20 12:24:57 AM
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Becareful of who you make love to.

Also PS5 and Xbox Series X will be delayed since the employees ate bats or something

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viewmaster_pi
02/09/20 12:33:45 AM
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this isn't a cultural delicacy that i don't understand, it's fucking savage and disgusting to look at, let alone choke down and get a cocktail of diseases from

i'm almost afraid i'll get modded, but here's the deeeeee-licious bat soup that's worth infecting your entire population for


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Ludwig Von 2
02/09/20 12:35:27 AM
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This reminds me of the movie Contagion.

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AzurexNightmare
02/09/20 12:37:51 AM
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Wow what a bunch of idiots.

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solosnake
02/09/20 12:40:52 AM
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So the bat soup conspiracy theory is okay mods?
Where do you draw the line on what conspiracy is worth being warned over?
I at least presented evidence for mine(in a separate post)
Go ahead and check my mod history im sure you can

Here we have multiple people in this topic promoting a proven false conspiracy that promotes racism

https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus-bat-soup

proof that bat soup pic and theory is a (fake) conspiracy btw

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AzurexNightmare
02/09/20 12:42:31 AM
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Damn my sig is fucking old. I might as well just leave it like that lmao.

My sig is so old that you can play Wipeout 2048 in Virtual reality now.

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solosnake
02/09/20 12:45:12 AM
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https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus-bat-soup

proof that bat soup pic and theory is a (fake) conspiracy btw

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Dark_SilverX
02/09/20 12:47:09 AM
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That bat pic looks so delicious and scrumptious.

The bat delicasy should be apart of menus in restaurants across the US.

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Doom_Art
02/09/20 12:47:38 AM
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Regardless of the bat soup rumor, China could definitely do with some more stringent and enforced regulations around food prep and butchering.

There's a reason so many of these wacky illnesses pop up in China.

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AzurexNightmare
02/09/20 12:48:53 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Regardless of the bat soup rumor, China could definitely do with some more stringent and enforced regulations around food prep and butchering.

There's a reason so many of these wacky illnesses pop up in China.


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hockeybub89
02/09/20 12:49:42 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Regardless of the bat soup rumor, China could definitely do with some more stringent and enforced regulations around food prep and butchering.

There's a reason so many of these wacky illnesses pop up in China.
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viewmaster_pi
02/09/20 12:51:37 AM
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The possible reasoning, according to the research article and an article from The Conversation, via CNN: Snakes often hunt bats in the wildand because snakes were also sold at the seafood market in Wuhan, the novel coronavirus may have jumped from bats to snakes to humans at the beginning of the outbreak.

snake soup ain't exactly a step up from bat soup

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solosnake
02/09/20 12:52:56 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
snake soup ain't exactly a step up from bat soup
The snake soup is also a conspiracy


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viewmaster_pi
02/09/20 12:53:01 AM
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and god damn it, sure enough


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solosnake
02/09/20 12:58:05 AM
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Charles Lieber, the chair of Harvard University's Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology, has been arrested and criminally charged with making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements" to the U.S. Defense Department about his ties to a Chinese government program to recruit foreign scientists and researchers.

The Justice Department says Lieber, 60, lied about his contact with the Chinese program known as the Thousand Talents Plan, which the U.S. has previously flagged as a serious intelligence concern. He also is accused of lying about about a lucrative contract he signed with China's Wuhan University of Technology.

In an affidavit unsealed Tuesday, FBI Special Agent Robert Plumb said Lieber, who led a Harvard research group focusing on nanoscience, had established a research lab at the Wuhan university apparently unbeknownst to Harvard.
In response to the charges against Lieber, Harvard said in a statement to NPR: "The charges brought by the U.S. government against Professor Lieber are extremely serious. Harvard is cooperating with federal authorities, including the National Institutes of Health, and is initiating its own review of the alleged misconduct. Professor Lieber has been placed on indefinite administrative leave."

The arrangement between Lieber and the Chinese institution spanned "significant" periods of time between at least 2012 and 2017, according to the affidavit. It says the deal called for Lieber to be paid up to $50,000 a month, in addition to $150,000 per year "for living and personal expenses."

"Lieber was also awarded more than $1.5 million by WUT and the Chinese government to establish a research lab and conduct research at WUT," the document states.

For a large part of the time frame in question, Lieber was also the principal investigator on at least six U.S. Defense Department research grants, with a cumulative value of more than $8 million, according to the affidavit. It also says he was the principal investigator on more than $10 million in grants funded by the National Institutes of Health.

"These grants require the disclosure of significant foreign financial conflicts of interest, including financial support from foreign governments or foreign entities," the U.S. Attorney's Office in Massachusetts said in a statement announcing the charges against Lieber.

https://www.npr.org/2020/01/28/800442646/acclaimed-harvard-scientist-is-arrested-accused-of-lying-about-ties-to-china

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MirageOfRuins
02/09/20 1:12:29 AM
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Theyre actually saying it originates from the pangolin trade thats happening.
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malenz
02/09/20 1:15:34 AM
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bat soup? lol
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indica
02/09/20 1:23:31 AM
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solosnake posted...
Charles Lieber, the chair of Harvard University'sDepartment of Chemistry and Chemical Biology, has been arrested and criminally charged with making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements" to the U.S. Defense Department about his ties to a Chinese government program to recruit foreign scientists and researchers.

The Justice Department says Lieber, 60, lied about his contact with the Chinese program known as the Thousand Talents Plan, which the U.S. has previously flagged as a serious intelligence concern. He also is accused of lying about about a lucrative contract he signed with China's Wuhan University of Technology.

In an affidavit unsealed Tuesday, FBI Special Agent Robert Plumb said Lieber, who led a Harvard research group focusing on nanoscience, had established a research lab at the Wuhan university apparently unbeknownst to Harvard.
In response to the charges against Lieber, Harvard said in a statement to NPR: "The charges brought by the U.S. government against Professor Lieber are extremely serious. Harvard is cooperating with federal authorities, including the National Institutes of Health, and is initiating its own review of the alleged misconduct. Professor Lieber has been placed on indefinite administrative leave."

The arrangement between Lieber and the Chinese institution spanned "significant" periods of time between at least 2012 and 2017, according to the affidavit. It says the deal called for Lieber to be paid up to $50,000 a month, in addition to $150,000 per year "for living and personal expenses."

"Lieber was also awarded more than $1.5 million by WUT and the Chinese government to establish a research lab and conduct research at WUT," the document states.

For a large part of the time frame in question, Lieber was also the principal investigator on at least six U.S. Defense Department research grants, with a cumulative value of more than $8 million, according to the affidavit. It also says he was the principal investigator on more than $10 million in grants funded by the National Institutes of Health.

"These grants require the disclosure of significant foreign financial conflicts of interest, including financial support from foreign governments or foreign entities," the U.S. Attorney's Office in Massachusetts said in a statement announcing the charges against Lieber.

https://www.npr.org/2020/01/28/800442646/acclaimed-harvard-scientist-is-arrested-accused-of-lying-about-ties-to-china
This is interesting, but how does it relate to the topic?

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solosnake
02/09/20 1:23:52 AM
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indica posted...
This is interesting, but how does it relate to the topic?
The same way bat soup does

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viewmaster_pi
02/09/20 1:25:01 AM
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oh for the love of christ

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indica
02/09/20 1:26:40 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
China could definitely do with some more stringent and enforced regulations around food prep and butchering.

This. You won't get a virus or bacterial infection from anything cooked well enough no matter what it is


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solosnake
02/09/20 1:27:53 AM
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Wow, mods deleted that fucking fast, but the bat soup bullshit is still up? I guess i shouldnt be surprised

Shame on you mods


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indica
02/09/20 1:28:18 AM
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solosnake posted...
The same way bat soup does
gotcha

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solosnake
02/09/20 1:30:45 AM
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I am actually starting to wonder if some of these mods work for the ccp

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indica
02/09/20 1:32:06 AM
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solosnake posted...
Wow, mods deleted that fucking fast, but the bat soup bullshit is still up? I guess i shouldnt be surprised

Shame on you mods
What did you post?

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solosnake
02/09/20 1:33:04 AM
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indica posted...
What did you post?
It was someone else who made the connection with the article i linked. They got the ban hammer within 5 seconds

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viewmaster_pi
02/09/20 1:33:10 AM
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there's no way the post after mine was modded, i JUST posted and saw it was deleted

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solosnake
02/09/20 1:34:40 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
there's no way the post after mine was modded, i JUST posted and saw it was deleted
Well, I saw it, I was going to quote it, but i am honestly scared of the mods, they are completely unreasonable about this particular thing. They wont let it be discussed at all.

Bio weapon research apparently isnt an acceptable topic of discussion around here

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solosnake
02/09/20 2:03:14 AM
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https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/25/5/pdfs/18-0220.pdf

The safety and function of a BSL-4 laboratory rely not only on the containment facility and biosafety management systems but also on highly qualified and experienced staff. Many recorded laboratory accidents are related to person-nel error. Qualified staff ensure the efficacy and safety of a high-containment laboratory. Developing an appropriate and rigorous BSL-4 laboratory user training system is an essential prerequisite for ensuring the safety of laboratory workers, operations, and the environment

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jmikla
02/09/20 2:24:42 AM
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AzurexNightmare posted...
Someone fill me in
Giggity

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solosnake
02/09/20 2:27:34 AM
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https://www.globalhealthnow.org/2018-05/bat-sick-crazy

Over 60 bat-borne viruses, including Ebola, are known to infect humans, and researchers at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) are looking to uncover why bats can transmit these viruses without getting sick themselves.
WIV collects and stores thousands of virus samples from bats in the field.

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indica
02/09/20 3:12:18 AM
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solosnake posted...
https://www.globalhealthnow.org/2018-05/bat-sick-crazy

Over 60 bat-borne viruses, including Ebola, are known to infect humans, and researchers at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) are looking to uncover why bats can transmit these viruses without getting sick themselves.
WIV collects and stores thousands of virus samples from bats in the field.
Ok. I get where you're going now, and I can see why the mods might have freaked out. It's an interesting hypothesis though, and one that I think is worth investigating.

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solosnake
02/10/20 8:56:52 AM
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