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TheRock1525
02/28/20 1:02:47 PM
#403:


Strife2 posted...
*Ratings drop below 3.0*

*Send Rock*
I'm not sure how I'd help but I have ideas.

Mostly involving DREW MAC.

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Steiner
02/28/20 1:21:56 PM
#404:


TheRock1525 posted...
Strife2 posted...
*Ratings drop below 3.0*

*Send Rock*
I'm not sure how I'd help but I have ideas.

Mostly involving DREW MAC.


that's already the idea
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Pokewars
02/28/20 1:22:17 PM
#405:


I didn't think I could lose faith I never had, but....there it is.

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TheRock1525
02/28/20 1:29:09 PM
#406:


Steiner posted...
that's already the idea
I don't think they're working towards DREW MAC holding all the titles, including the women's tag team championships.

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Steiner
02/28/20 1:47:26 PM
#407:


have faith

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ZeroSignal620
02/28/20 1:49:15 PM
#408:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Outside the Big Two (RR and Mania) I haven't watched WWE since that Saudi trash started.

Nice to see my decision was correct.

Admittedly I've only read reports and checked highlights on YouTube.

Only good shows in recent months have been Royal Rumble and Survivor Series.

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Strife2
02/28/20 1:52:43 PM
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But you just know if Drew doesn't "grab the brass ring," he'll lose the title to Diesel at Summerslam.

Which reminds me...how has Becky escaped unscathed? The fact she's stayed over as Raw champion for a year in the era of Charlotte is concerning. It's like that Family Guy skit where Brian hits Peter with the newspaper.

*Vince wants Evans
Heyman bats him with newspaper
No...no*

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TheRock1525
02/28/20 2:03:59 PM
#410:


Vince absolutely loves Becky and thinks she's a shining example of someone actually grabbing the brass ring.

Why her and not the several other people... no idea.

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_PandaMaster_
02/28/20 2:04:21 PM
#411:


Strife2 posted...
how has Becky escaped unscathed?

Vince actually likes Becky. She gets the luxury of Vince's favor with the coincidence of fan favor.

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Strife2
02/28/20 2:13:52 PM
#412:


So when does she lose favor with smarks and turn heel...or face someone super popular...or bitch about Japanese wrestlers or their bank accounts on Twitter?

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Jakyl25
02/28/20 2:34:01 PM
#413:


Strife2 posted...
The fact she's stayed over as Raw champion for a year in the era of Charlotte is concerning.


If you recall they did have Charlotte beat her immediately after WM, and Becky never got that win back I dont think?
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Steiner
02/28/20 4:05:57 PM
#414:


I've not seen enough discussion in here of how great the build for Revolution has been and how AEW has been firing on all cylinders in recent weeks. Omega vs. PAC was my favourite match in Dynamite history this week, topping the Omega/Page vs. Lucha Bros match from the week before. More importantly, all the stories they are telling now are connecting, and every match on the PPV is interesting in a "where will the characters be afterwards" sense rater than just a "that match should be good" sense. I'm super excited

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PrivateBiscuit1
02/28/20 4:18:30 PM
#415:


I've fallen so behind on AEW but everytime I hear people talk about it, it just sounds awesome.

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Steiner
02/28/20 4:42:52 PM
#416:


it was rough in december but ever since the boat shows with the de-emphasis of the dark order and the nightmare collective going away combined with the omega/page story, the show has really turned around and it is great television right now

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Jakyl25
02/28/20 4:47:48 PM
#417:


Which coincides with the report that Tony Khan started exerting more creative control instead of letting The Elite run the booking unchecked
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TheRock1525
02/28/20 4:50:42 PM
#418:


I really hope the plan is for the Bucks to go full heel because they're huge jackasses to Page for no reason and Page is awesome.

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HashtagSEP
02/28/20 4:51:51 PM
#419:


Sounds like I need to start tuning in again

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TheRock1525
02/28/20 4:53:30 PM
#420:


Jakyl25 posted...
Which coincides with the report that Tony Khan started exerting more creative control instead of letting The Elite run the booking unchecked
Which I remember Moxley referring to creative as a "jam session" where they just sort of bounced ideas off each other.

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Jakyl25
02/28/20 4:53:41 PM
#421:


Dave: Undertaker probably made $1 Million for that match

Jim: The worlds most expensive choke slam
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TheRock1525
02/28/20 4:56:07 PM
#422:


HashtagSEP posted...
Sounds like I need to start tuning in again
The Bucks yanking a beer out of Hangman Page's hands only for him to miraculously pull up an entire pitcher without the shot ever pulling away from him is the moment where I was like "I love this man."

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Jakyl25
02/28/20 4:56:52 PM
#423:


TheRock1525 posted...

Which I remember Moxley referring to creative as a "jam session" where they just sort of bounced ideas off each other.


Cody did an interview with Dave and Bryan a few weeks ago and he mentioned how the biggest unforeseen obstacle theyve found is coming up with direction and ideas for wrestlers who arent as creatively driven as The Elite are.

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TheRock1525
02/28/20 4:58:56 PM
#424:


I still think Omega is kind of a dork in AEW, though.

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ZeroSignal620
02/28/20 5:09:03 PM
#425:


Jakyl25 posted...
If you recall they did have Charlotte beat her immediately after WM, and Becky never got that win back I dont think?

True and Becky never did get said win back, but Charlotte's win came after Becky wrestled back-to-back matches and still needed interference from Lacey.

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Maniac64
02/28/20 5:09:06 PM
#426:


TheRock1525 posted...
I really hope the plan is for the Bucks to go full heel because they're huge jackasses to Page for no reason and Page is awesome.
I cant imagine they are going to try and turn page since he is super over so that seems quite possible.

And yeah the build has been awesome.

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Jakyl25
02/28/20 5:21:05 PM
#427:


Just heard a very good point on WOR

We do actually have evidence now of where the nostalgia ratings bumps stop

Flair and Hogan pop ratings

Goldberg pops ratings

Cena pops ratings

Edges return did NOT pop ratings

Cena is the last one

Time is ticking
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Strife2
02/28/20 5:24:43 PM
#428:


We saw that with last year's Raw reunion. Very little spike.

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_PandaMaster_
02/28/20 8:15:02 PM
#429:


10min into SD and the crowd seems excited for the possibility of Reigns/Goldberg just from a staredown and one sentence from Reigns.

There you go.

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_PandaMaster_
02/28/20 9:08:37 PM
#430:


Reigns/Goldberg now official. No contender match, no chamber. Just Roman declaring himself NEXT against Goldberg. So he is.



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ZeroSignal620
02/28/20 9:42:28 PM
#431:


More additions to Elimination Chamber...

Strowman vs Nakamura, Cesaro, and Zayn in a handicap match for the IC title
Miz and Morrison vs New Day vs Roode and Ziggler vs Heavy Machinery vs Lucha House Party vs The Usos in an Elimination Chamber for the SD tag titles

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PrivateBiscuit1
02/28/20 9:54:55 PM
#432:


I routinely forget Strowman has ever been a wrestler who exists.

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ninkendo
02/28/20 9:59:49 PM
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02/28/20 10:04:51 PM
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Maniac64
02/28/20 10:07:11 PM
#435:


Ugh. That IC title match sounds awful as a fan of Zayn and Cesaro.

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ZeroSignal620
02/28/20 10:16:36 PM
#436:


Current WM36 Card
Lesnar vs McIntyre for WWE title
Goldberg vs Reigns for Universal title
Ripley vs Charlotte for NXT Women's title
Cena vs The Fiend
Becky vs Elimination Chamber winner (likely Baszler)

Matches That will likely get booked
Styles vs Taker
Edge vs Orton
Of course the Men's and Women's battle royals


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Tom Bombadil
02/28/20 10:52:07 PM
#437:


I don't hate any of those matches but nothing about them compels me to tune in either

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Jakyl25
02/28/20 10:55:26 PM
#438:


We are supposed to get Beth and Nattie vs Kabuki Warriors and Otis vs Ziggler if the rumors are to be believed
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Jakyl25
02/28/20 11:18:58 PM
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ZeroSignal620
02/29/20 11:40:39 AM
#440:


I had to look back at history, and discovered Reigns vs Goldberg is the second World title match at Wrestlemania to be booked just because (at least since they began having two World champions in late 2002). Obviously the Royal Rumble winner would pick their choice, but the rest?

Wrestlemania 19 - Booker T wins battle royal
20 - Kurt Angle wins against Big Show and Cena at No Way Out
21 - Cena wins tournament
22 - HHH wins tournament
23 - HBK defeated Edge and Orton
24 - Undertaker wins Elimination Chamber
25 - Vickie books Edge vs Big Show just because (later, Cena reveals that Show and Vickie were having an affair). Cena pressures Vickie to add him to the match
26 - Cena beats Batista by DQ to earn a title match
27 - Cena wins Elimination Chamber
28 - Jericho wins battle royal
29 - Swagger wins Elimination Chamber
Only one World title between 30 and 32
33 - Goldberg vs Lesnar was already booked for Wrestlemania before Goldberg won the Universal title, so this one's an exception
34 - Reigns wins Elimination Chamber
35 - Big E and Woods win Tag Team gauntlet match to get Kofi a shot at Bryan
36 - Reigns and Goldberg get booked after one promo

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Eddv
02/29/20 12:04:31 PM
#441:


Unless I am mistaken you only add a couple more in the pre 2 title era

1- no world title match
*2 - kinda just because with Bundy
3 - culmination of Andres heel turn
4 - Andre wins title, sells it to DiBiase, sets stage for WM4 tournament
5 - Mega Powers....EXPLODE
*6 - pretty much just because after how hot the rumble crowd was for Hogan/Warrior
7 - Hogan wins rumble, challenges Slaughter despite that not being the stipulation
8 - Flair/Savage feud over Elizabeth reaches its zenith
9 - Yoko wins rumble
10 - Bret and Luger win rumble setting stage for both title matches and Owen/Bret
11 - HBK wins rumble challenges Diesel
12 - HBK wins rumble, challenges Bret
*13 - a big ole mess, Sid Taker pretty much happens just cus
14 - Austin wins rumble, challenges Michael's
15 - Austin wins Rumble, challenges the rock
*16 - A MCMAHON IN EVERY CORNER (though Big Show is here pretty much just cuz)
17 - The Rock wins the Royal Rumble, challenges Austin
18 - Triple H wins Rumble, challenges Jericho

So 3.25 instances prior to 19

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ZeroSignal620
02/29/20 12:13:19 PM
#442:


Eddv posted...
(though Big Show is here pretty much just cuz)

Technically he had proof that Rock's feet touched the floor first. Shane's reasons for aligning with Big Show is anyone's guess though.

And for the triple threat/fatal four ways...
16 - A MCMAHON IN EVERY CORNER
20 - HBK vs Benoit ends with HHH interference. Austin makes it a triple threat
22 - Orton wins title shot against Rey Mysterio. Teddy Long puts Rey back in the match anyway.
24 - Cena uses his title shot at No Way Out and fails, while HHH wins Elimination Chamber. Cena wins non-title match the next night to join Trips and Orton
25 - Already explained
30 - Batista wins Rumble, Bryan defeats HHH at Mania to enter main event
35 (Women's) - Vince suspends Becky and handpicks Charlotte as #1 contender. Becky wins match to join her and Rousey.

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_PandaMaster_
02/29/20 2:49:06 PM
#443:


For the "ratings obsessed" people:

10min and two words led to Goldberg/Reigns having both the highest rated and viewed segment of le night. Well over 3million in viewers. That also might be one of the highest rated/viewed segments since WWE moved to Fox.

So there's that.

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Strife2
02/29/20 3:12:33 PM
#444:


I'm more bothered by Vince's insistence that "fans are stupid, they will like what we present no matter what," rather than fostering a sense of goodwill with the audience.

Bending over ass backwards for an audience all the time isn't good, but the rate they give people something (WM35) versus not (...almost everything else) is striking. I mean, on the same show McIntyre got his big break, Charlotte got another accolade she didn't need.

Paying customers are only paying customers so long as they aren't treated like bitches.

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Jakyl25
02/29/20 4:29:44 PM
#445:


_PandaMaster_ posted...
For the "ratings obsessed" people:

10min and two words led to Goldberg/Reigns having both the highest rated and viewed segment of le night. Well over 3million in viewers. That also might be one of the highest rated/viewed segments since WWE moved to Fox.

So there's that.


Goldberg and Cena getting those ratings

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Jakyl25
02/29/20 4:31:03 PM
#446:


Strife2 posted...
I mean, on the same show McIntyre got his big break, Charlotte got another accolade she didn't need.


Well the thinking there is to use Charlotte to elevate Ripley and NXT as a whole to help beat AEW

She popped zero rating on Wednesday though so *shrug*
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scarletspeed7
02/29/20 4:46:53 PM
#447:


That pretty much confirms how uninteresting Charlotte has always been.

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Maniac64
02/29/20 6:46:38 PM
#448:


If only WWE treated it's current stars as well as it treats its retired ones.

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PrivateBiscuit1
02/29/20 10:08:08 PM
#449:


Cody's neck tattoo makes me sympathize with MJF.

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FFDragon
02/29/20 10:52:18 PM
#450:


Orange Cassidy might just get the biggest reactions in all of wrestling these days. That match with PAC was great.

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PrivateBiscuit1
02/29/20 11:30:40 PM
#451:


Top tier finish to Moxley vs. Jericho

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Maniac64
03/01/20 12:29:06 AM
#452:


Mind recapping the ppv for me?

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