Current Events > I am a conservative. Ask me anything within the TOU.

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Hows your mom doing? Havent seen her in awhile

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Why did you tell Goats to come back to gwwak's discord?

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ultimate reaver posted...

Hows your mom doing? Havent seen her in awhile

she's doing fine, bruh. Actually better since you left the picture.

Veggeta X posted...

Why did you tell Goats to come back to gwwak's discord?

I wanted to try and make peace. I am a person who tries to avoid conflict and petty feuds.

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M_Live posted...

Why?

Because, in our country, we are allowed to identify as whatever we want. That's freedom baby.

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garlic powder posted...

I wanted to try and make peace. I am a person who tries to avoid conflict and petty feuds.

Who are you in gwwak's Discord and why didn't you reply when Goats came in?

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M_Live posted...

What conservative values do you strongly identify with? Are you pro- or anti- nationalized healthcare, do you believe women do/don't have the right to choose? Pro- or anti- legalized marijuana on a federal level?

The values that I strongly with are the following:

• recognizing the power of the free market
• not complaining, and instead taking practical action to improve one's situation
• emphasizing self-reliance and being able to keep the fruits of one's labor
• supporting self-defense
• a devotion to the principle of justice
• recognizing and utilizing the benefits of competition and hard work

Obviously those that are not able to work for physical and mental reasons I fully support government programs to assist those individuals. This is America. I'm in favor of helping people with severe issues.

I'm anti nationalized healthcare. Obviously we need to give healthcare to people who can't work for the above mentioned reasons, but it should stay private. We've seen the debacle with Obamacare and how that came up really short imo.

I'm pro-choice until a certain stage in the pregnancy. And for rape or incest, obviously. For "mistakes" I think we should limit women to a certain number of abortions. I think we need to educate people how to be more responsible.

Personally I get nothing from marijuana but I have friends who use it responsibly and it does help them. I support a nationwide legalization as long as the requirements are strict and people use it responsibly.


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How many guns you got?

should hospitals be required to provide services to people who cannot pay and do not have insurance?

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M_Live posted...

Shrug, you sound more libertarian to me than anything. This is why I think these sort of labels are silly, and I hate the idea of two central parties. I'm "liberal" in a lot of ways, but I'm pro-second amendment. I'd never be able to vote Republican because of how backward I find them to be, but I wouldn't feel comfortable voting for a Dem who wanted to ban guns, as an example.

I think so, too actually...but I agree more with conservatives than liberals at this point. I'm definitely pro second amendment. People are overestimating response time from police. If an intruder is in your property, YOU are the first line of defense. You can't count on the police getting there in time.

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Sackgurl posted...

should hospitals be required to provide services to people who cannot pay and do not have insurance?

Yes and don't they already do? Go to an emergency room and they'll treat you first, ask questions later.

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Veggeta X posted...

Who are you in gwwak's Discord and why didn't you reply when Goats came in?

I did and he didn't reply so...

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garlic powder posted...

Yes and don't they already do? Go to an emergency room and they'll treat you first, ask questions later.

how do you reconcile your desire for this with your opposition to single payer healthcare?

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garlic powder posted...

I think we should limit women to a certain number of abortions.

Why do you think we have a right to control what someone else does with their bodies and choices?

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i noticed you didnt say republican, why?
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Skype posted...

Why do you think we have a right to control what someone else does with their bodies and choices?

Because I consider abortion to be murder. Obviously, people make mistakes and I am a reasonable person and understand that. I understand the need for it when a woman's life is in danger. I understand the need for it for cases of rape/incest.

I do not understand when the same person keeps making the same mistake. That's bullcrap.

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Sackgurl posted...

how do you reconcile your desire for this with your opposition to single payer healthcare?

I just don't think a nationwide healthcare system can work. First, we'd be putting a lot of pressure on our current capacity of hospitals. The last thing we want is people dying in line in the emergency room; which already happens. We're understaffed to treat every single person. The lines would get enormous. You want healthcare? You gotta earn it imo.

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M_Live posted...

You should be aware that the "women using abortions as birth control" trope is largely made up. Do less fear mongering, and actual research!

...Then what are you afraid of? If it is a made up trope, then my idea wouldn't harm anybody.

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do you think our current healthcare system is successful, and if so why

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garlic powder posted...

Because I consider abortion to be murder. Obviously, people make mistakes and I am a reasonable person and understand that. I understand the need for it when a woman's life is in danger. I understand the need for it for cases of rape/incest.

I do not understand when the same person keeps making the same mistake. That's bullcrap.

But why not just increase sexual education instead of placing arbitrary caps on women? Seems a bit tyrannical and sexist especially when men don't have this problem.

garlic powder posted...

I just don't think a nationwide healthcare system can work. First, we'd be putting a lot of pressure on our current capacity of hospitals. The last thing we want is people dying in line in the emergency room; which already happens. We're understaffed to treat every single person. The lines would get enormous. You want healthcare? You gotta earn it imo.

And why place the responsibility on the sick and not on the entities that underfund and understaff medical facilities? Shouldn't we be working towards a middle ground?

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garlic powder posted...

...Then what are you afraid of? If it is a made up trope, then my idea wouldn't harm anybody.

Because having a baby is expensive and (for some) dangerous, and women should have the ability to opt out of that.

Anyway, what would you say are the biggest fears facing conservatives and what are the Republican leaders doing to face those?

Skype posted...

But why not just increase sexual education instead of placing arbitrary caps on women? Seems a bit tyrannical and sexist especially when men don't have this problem.

And why place the responsibility on the sick and not on the entities that underfund and understaff medical facilities? Shouldn't we be working towards a middle ground?

It is what it is. Women are the ones who give birth. I can't control that. I do think men should be held responsible for the children they conceived with the mother, however. If they flee, then we need to garnish their salary and give it to the mother. It takes two people to make a baby. Both should be responsible.

..healthcare will never be perfect. I think the system we have now is better than nationwide healthcare. That goes for Romulox's question, too.


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garlic powder posted...

The last thing we want is people dying in line in the emergency room; which already happens.

"but fuck you die at home instead"

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how old is earf

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Error1355 posted...

"but fuck you die at home instead"

Yes, it's horrible and it's the harsh reality. I think, imo, with nationalized healthcare, MORE people would be dying in lines than we have now.

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The Trent posted...

how old is earf

I believe scientists when it comes to the earth's age.

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garlic powder posted...

a devotion to the principle of justice

Very, very foolish to think that Republicans have a stronger devotion to justice than Democrats

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garlic powder posted...

Yes, it's horrible and it's the harsh reality. I think, imo, with nationalized healthcare, MORE people would be dying in lines than we have now.

Yes, somehow more people will die when more people can go to a hospital instead of avoiding all healthcare and dying in their home.

This is a sound and solid logic.

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DarkChozoGhost posted...

Very, very foolish to think that Republicans have a stronger devotion to justice than Democrats

Do you support sanctuary cities and illegal immigrants coming here with no repercussions?


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Error1355 posted...

Yes, somehow more people will die when more people can go to a hospital instead of avoiding all healthcare and dying in their home.

This is a sound and solid logic.

Ok, so right now let's say for argument's sake 500 working people used the doctor to save their lives this month. They were able to make appointments with their doctor, and other appointments for x-rays with technicians and head to the hospital for a diagnosis. This all takes place within a couple months with several appointments being made.

If we have nationalized healthcare, these 500 people may not get treatment in time say if they have cancer or something. So, in the time it took them for those couple of months to get the appointment, it may take a year since the backlog of people is so large.

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That still doesn't explain how MORE people being able to see a doctor leads to MORE people dying.

You're pulling bullshit outta thin air that suddenly more people getting health care means that other people will die because of it. That makes no fucking sense at all.

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Error1355 posted...

That still doesn't explain how MORE people being able to see a doctor leads to MORE people dying.

You're pulling bullshit outta thin air that suddenly more people getting health care means that other people will die because of it. That makes no fucking sense at all.

So, do you think if 10 people showed up at a restaurant versus 500 that everyone would be seated and taken care of in the same amount of time?

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Slightly suspicious lol.

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fyi when health care was nationalised in the uk, the death rate dropped dramatically because people could finally see doctors about their problems

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TwoDoorPC posted...

fyi when health care was nationalised in the uk, the death rate dropped dramatically because people could finally see doctors about their problems

Yeah lets not go using facts to fuck up this guy's terrible logic.

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M_Live posted...

You should be aware that the "women using abortions as birth control" trope is largely made up. Do less fear mongering, and actual research!

While I understand anecdotal evidence is not considered real evidence, I know a number of women that have done such.

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garlic powder posted...

So, do you think if 10 people showed up at a restaurant versus 500 that everyone would be seated and taken care of in the same amount of time?

So where is this number being pulled out of your ass that if we give healthcare to everyone, that there will be a sudden 4,900% increase of demand on the healthcare system?

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All right, fair enough. We're going in circles here.

Listen, I don't know what would happen with 100% accuracy if a nationwide healthcare system was implemented, and something more effective than obamacare, which, honestly, isn't anywhere near what we all thought it would be.

It could be better.
It could be worse.

I don't know. I'll admit that.

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garlic powder posted...

All right, fair enough. We're going in circles here.

Listen, I don't know what would happen with 100% accuracy if a nationwide healthcare system was implemented, and something more effective than obamacare, which, honestly, isn't anywhere near what we all thought it would be.

It could be better.
It could be worse.

I don't know. I'll admit that.

No, you actually do know. It's quite well documented. Look at what happened in every industrialized first world nation that introduced a nationalized healthcare system.

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here is my follow question, have you ever actually had to go thru the healthcare system - like have you ever had to deal with insurance for prolonged treatment or something that was more involved than a routine checkup? i am dealing with this now and it is an absolute nightmare, i honestly cant see how anyone thinks this system is good or effective in any way shape or form

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then why is Obamacare not seen as a success?

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About the opiod epidemic. Should all hard drugs be decriminalized and easy to get so these junkies dont get ahold of the wrong stuff? Also should tax dollar funded shoot up centers be in all major cities, so that addicts can get access to clean needles, post injection care supplies, and narcan if the need arises?

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garlic powder posted...

then why is Obamacare not seen as a success?

Because right wing media demonized the first 5 letters of the name.

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Error1355 posted...

Because right wing media demonized the first 5 letters of the name.

I mean certainly, people that hated Obama wouldn't want it to work, but there's more to it than that. I really don't see many Democrats who are really proud of it.

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garlic powder posted...

then why is Obamacare not seen as a success?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/acatimes.com/aca-approval-ratings-on-the-rise/amp/