Current Events > What gets people angrier: debating religion, politics or sports?

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Curious to see what y'all think...

It's tricky because a good amount of right wings don't understand the difference between government/politics and religion. But I chose politics. Eh

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Agreed, right people tend to combine religion and politics, and right wing people don't know how to compromise with other people. So those make them angry.

Sports can be objective based on team performance.

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Politics >>>>>> Sports in my experience

I haven't been a part of a religion discussion like ever lol. I just let people believe what they want, and that basically satisfies everyone I've ever met about religion

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People who say politics over religion need to think a bit broader. People fly actual planes into buildings over religion. The political climate right now is pretty shitty but it isn't THAT bad imho.

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Religion treads on the most core ideas to people usually.

If you don't have religion, then it's politics.

If you don't have either of those, it's sports.

Beyond that, it'll be hobbies or your fav music.
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as far as i can tell, whenever people get "angry" in a discussion on religion, they're not actually discussing religion
more often than not, it has become a political discussion in a religion context.

like, no one get's actually angry over "and then Moses parted the red sea"

it's always shit like "let religious nuts make anti-abortion laws, yes or no?", "are Jehovas Witnesses weirdos?" "something something circumcision" and "someone made a picture of our prophet, i must kill"
those are politics

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Black males - NBA basketball
White males - politics
women - love
Mexican males - boxing

Most sports fans are pretty normal.

Politics is very divisive, and religious differences can get you killed in places like the Middle East.


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Politics posted...

People who say politics over religion need to think a bit broader. People fly actual planes into buildings over religion. The political climate right now is pretty shitty but it isn't THAT bad imho.

People flying planes into building probably aren't all that mad, though.

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ROBANN_88 posted...

as far as i can tell, whenever people get "angry" in a discussion on religion, they're not actually discussing religion
more often than not, it has become a political discussion in a religion context.

like, no one get's actually angry over "and then Moses parted the red sea"

it's always shit like "let religious nuts make anti-abortion laws, yes or no?", "are Jehovas Witnesses weirdos?" "something something circumcision" and "someone made a picture of our prophet, i must kill"
those are politics

That's not it though. It's about questioning the basic facts of the religion. Exodus, Karma, Jesus, Mohammed, Heaven, Hell, souls, etc.

This is questioning peoples entire placement in the universe.
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ROBANN_88 posted...

as far as i can tell, whenever people get "angry" in a discussion on religion, they're not actually discussing religion
more often than not, it has become a political discussion in a religion context.

like, no one get's actually angry over "and then Moses parted the red sea"

it's always shit like "let religious nuts make anti-abortion laws, yes or no?", "are Jehovas Witnesses weirdos?" "something something circumcision" and "someone made a picture of our prophet, i must kill"
those are politics

Wait, arent you Swedish? Do you get many opportunities to speak with devoutly religious people over there?

I do worry about my safety when the topic of religion comes up and I dont agree with what others are saying. Im talking about basic, core beliefs of Christians, like debating whether or not Jesus really did do any of the miracles hes credited with. I cant imagine how unwise it would be to do something comparable in a Muslim-majority nation.


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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

Wait, arent you Swedish? Do you get many opportunities to speak with devoutly religious people over there?

Apart from religion class in school, not much personally.
That's just an observation of the debate climate here.

I really don't understand how you could get upset in a discussion over the actual texts.

Like all i see (in public discussions) is stuff like: "should we let 6 year olds wear full coverage Burkas in schools?"
"Religious self segregation"
"Honour killings, is it a real issue?"
"Public loudspeaker Call to prayers, should it be allowed?"
"What to do about this school that have been proven to employ religious extremists?"

Though, that is mostly from following political figures, news articles and debates, so maybe i'm not getting the full picture, i don't know.

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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

Wait, arent you Swedish? Do you get many opportunities to speak with devoutly religious people over there?

I do worry about my safety when the topic of religion comes up and I dont agree with what others are saying. Im talking about basic, core beliefs of Christians, like debating whether or not Jesus really did do any of the miracles hes credited with. I cant imagine how unwise it would be to do something comparable in a Muslim-majority nation.

Wait, are you saying that Sweden is Muslim majority, or are you talking about somewhere else? While its true that Sweden has a lot of Muslim immigrants these days, Sweden is around 70 percent Christian, and 1.5 percent Muslim. So yes, he would have the opportunity to talk to religious people in Sweden.


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I think politics causes the most arguments. But religion causes the most extreme reactions.

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EventualDecline posted...

Wait, are you saying that Sweden is Muslim majority, or are you talking about somewhere else? While its true that Sweden has a lot of Muslim immigrants these days, Sweden is around 70 percent Christian, and 1.5 percent Muslim. So yes, he would have the opportunity to talk to religious people in Sweden.

It looks to me like those two paragraphs were separate, he's probably not suggesting that at all.

Anyway, the thing is that the majority culture to religion has been variations of "best kept to yourself" for a long time, so unless you go to church specifically for that it barely comes up, and when it does it's never in detail to a "getting riled up" level.

You'd never see shit like the "God hates..." here

Up until the shit i mentioned in my last post started appearing

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I think it could be any of the three depending on the person.

Politics can have tons of venom, especially since doofus became president.

Some people are really passionate about religion, but ultimately it comes down to two sides: people who are right and people who are religious.

With sports some people take that shit way too seriously, and I say that as a sports fan.

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ROBANN_88 posted...

Up until the shit i mentioned in my last post started appearing

Sounds like you guys have some big time problems over there in Sweden. Good luck with all of that. What I find amusing, as an Eastern European (who lives in the U.S.), is that Norway doesnt have nearly as many of the problems that you guys have. Sounds like Norway has their shit together, while Sweden is vulnerable to a number of problems that other Europeans dont have to deal with. Of course, Norway has SOME of these issues, but not nearly as much as Sweden does. And of course, most of Eastern Europe is laughing at you guys these days.


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EventualDecline posted...

Sounds like you guys have some big time problems over there in Sweden. Good luck with all of that. What I find amusing, as an Eastern European (who lives in the U.S.), is that Norway doesnt have nearly as many of the problems that you guys have. Sounds like Norway has their shit together, while Sweden is vulnerable to a number of problems that other Europeans dont have to deal with. Of course, Norway has SOME of these issues, but not nearly as much as Sweden does. And of course, most of Eastern Europe is laughing at you guys these days.

to be fair, Norways government did basically just collapse cause they decided to bring an ISIS woman home

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Politics posted...

People who say politics over religion need to think a bit broader. People fly actual planes into buildings over religion. The political climate right now is pretty shitty but it isn't THAT bad imho.

The flying planes things is just as political as it is religious, if not more so. Al Qaeda has political aims, not just religious ones

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ROBANN_88 posted...

It looks to me like those two paragraphs were separate, he's probably not suggesting that at all.

Yes, I was just trying to understand your environment. Not even trying to attack or insult, sorry if it maybe sounded like I was.

Anyway, I am not religious but I live around a lot of Christians. Their belief is on a very personal level, so I am careful of what I say around them. They also take politics seriously and sports is below that, but Im not afraid of getting physically hurt if we debate those topics. Religion is a totally different thing and just laughing about it is dangerous. I accept that it could be very different in other places, like some people kill other sports teams fans, for example.

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