Poll of the Day > Why isn't Lost Izalith the answer to the Dark Souls universe? (spoilers)

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The chaos is basically nuclear energy gone wrong.

Sure it destroyed the city and spawned some demons but it also presumably burned for thousands of years.

Izalith was once the domain of the Witch of Izalith, and was seemingly a great and booming city. However, when The Witch attempted to recreate the First Flame from her own Lord Soul, she failed to control it and was transformed into the Bed of Chaos. Izalith was subsequently overrun by the demons born from the Bed of Chaos. The demons fought against Gwyn, Lord of Sunlight and his knights, were defeated, and after hearing Quelaag's cut dialogue, were apparently punished by being contained to their fallen city.


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We learned about the profaned flame in DS3 and unless that's some sort of remnant of the chaos, it might suggest that the flames originate from deep underground.

I have a pet theory that where you fight Midir is the location where the lord souls where found but that's just speculation.

why would it be? like any other solution, it would be (very) temporary.

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Lost Izalith was very localized but it was still technically burning in DS3, even after the Bed of Chaos was defeated.

There's no telling how many cycles passed from 1 to 3.

I think there's the implication that lava is corrupted fire. (pretty much any chaos version of a spell changes flames to lava.) it's not the same thing as fire. fire can, I guess, create life (or whatever it does, infuse with life?), whereas chaos/lava produces demons. maybe chaos/lava is more potent and long-lived than fire, but it's not what anyone is after unless you want to mass produce demons and demonic corruption.

in the absolute best-case scenario of flawlessly recreating the first flame, you'd just start everything all over again, eventually winding up in the same place. (and that is not terribly different from what rekindling the first flame already does anyway.) you would not have avoided any of the problems, just postponed them again.

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NeoSioType posted...

We learned about the profaned flame in DS3 and unless that's some sort of remnant of the chaos, it might suggest that the flames originate from deep underground.

I have a pet theory that where you fight Midir is the location where the lord souls where found but that's just speculation.

Not really
it's just a demon version of heaven
where the kings are immortal and they horde all their treasures/souls there
but also the dead rise in the black swamp so it's kind of like hell

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Why isn't Lost Izalith the answer to the Dark Souls universe?

The answer? To what question?

Dark Souls universe is sort of like entropy on hard mode.

The central idea of the series is that the gods want to prolong the age of fire by continually rekindling the first flame. If that doesn't happen it becomes dark and cold and you get post-apocalyptic zombies.

The failed attempt to recreate the first flame at Lost Izalith seemed like a somewhat functional solution to the problem. Or at the very least something to work with. But I don't think there's any lore to support whether it had any effect on postponing the undead curse in the area.