Current Events > Antifascist whistleblower reveals inner workings of neo-Nazi group

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Antifar posted...

Although inside the group Tobin was vicious, militant and angry, a custody hearing attended by the Guardian in Camden, New Jersey, revealed the defendant as a pale, nervous, overweight teenager.

Sounds about right for keyboard warriors hiding behind a screen.

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IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Remember that when people want to make laws declaring Antifa a terrorist group, THIS is why. Not the 'violence' or 'blocking ambulances' or 'poorly thought out bullying of Sargon of Akkad'. Its the fact that they are opposed to fascism itself, and may actually air some people's dirty laundry.

No

For the past 16+ years, radical right-wing conservative groups have been a larger threat per the FBI than any other domestic group. Moreover, radical right-wingers have killed far more people in the U.S. since Trump's election than any foreigner or Muslim.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/14/fbi-and-dhs-warned-of-growing-threat-from-white-supremacists-months-ago/
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/10/2/16396612/las-vegas-mass-shooting-terrorism-islam

From Snopes: https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/08/17/are-antifa-and-the-alt-right-equally-violent/
Over the past decade, extremists of every stripe have killed 372 Americans. 74 percent of those killings were committed by right wing extremists. Only 2 percent of those deaths were at the hands of left wing extremists. Mayo told us:
"I dont want to give moral equivalence to the two sides because one side is fighting against white supremacy. On the Antifa side, theyve never murdered anyone but there have been many murders done by white supremacists, so we have to be concerned about that movement."

The American Right hankers for a civil war: a history in four videos
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2019/2/25/1837424/-The-American-Right-hankers-for-a-civil-war-a-history-in-four-videos

But why let your viewpoints be challenged when you can cry "whattabout" and shut your brain off

Rexdragon125 posted...

per the FBI

https://i.imgur.com/4qbKVGd.gif

Disregard for the FBI is a /pol/ meme.

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https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/01/21/man-stabs-kills-pro-trump-boss-drapes-american-flag-over-him-deputies-say/

This literally happened a week ago. Watch people in this thread defend it.

PokemonMonMon posted...

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/01/21/man-stabs-kills-pro-trump-boss-drapes-american-flag-over-him-deputies-say/

This literally happened a week ago. Watch people in this thread defend it.

Who is going to defend this?

And how does this counter what was presented in the OP and in Rexdragon's post?

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PokemonMonMon posted...

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/01/21/man-stabs-kills-pro-trump-boss-drapes-american-flag-over-him-deputies-say/

This literally happened a week ago. Watch people in this thread defend it.

Why the fuck would anyone do that? The guy was anti-government, anyway.

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Evening_Dragon posted...

Odds of having one of these guys here on CE?

looking at post 57 makes it really obvious

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You guys were claiming that antifa types never kill anybody. Whoops.

Summer_Ashigara posted...

looking at post 57 makes it really obvious

Oh, there it is.

PokemonMonMon posted...

You guys were claiming that antifa types never kill anybody. Whoops.

I don't see any indication that this guy in question is Antifa.


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Imagine being this desperate to defend violent extremism. Wow.

It's not a defense of a murderer to question whether he's actually a part of the ideology you've ascribed to him without evidence.

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PokemonMonMon posted...

Imagine being this desperate to defend violent extremism. Wow.

Imagine being this intellectually dishonest.

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why are y'all responding to the 3 karma troll account
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Intro2Logic posted...

It's not a defense of a murderer to question whether he's actually a part of the ideology you've ascribed to him without evidence.

Because you're totally being meticulous and consistent when you try and blame all conservatives in the world for the actions of "The Base".

PokemonMonMon posted...

You guys were claiming that antifa types never kill anybody. Whoops.

Who said he was Antifa aside from your desperate need to deflect from Neo-Nazi scumbags?

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Solar_Crimson posted...

Who said he was Antifa aside from your desperate need to deflect from Neo-Nazi scumbags?

Why is it hard for you to condemn murder?

Intro2Logic posted...

It's not a defense of a murderer to question whether he's actually a part of the ideology you've ascribed to him without evidence.

I doubt most of them are "right wing" either

PokemonMonMon posted...

Why is it hard for you to condemn murder?

I don't need to condemn it; anyone with a brain knows that what he did was wrong.

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Murder is bad, imo
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Murder, definitely bad.

PokemonMonMon posted...

Why is it hard for you to condemn murder?

He was probably right leaning.

There, I've condemned murder.

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PokemonMonMon posted...

Why is it hard for you to condemn murder?

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FursonaNonGrata posted...

The large-scale paramilitary training is what concerns me the most about these groups. Because theyre not doing it to protect their communities. Theyre doing it to wage violence against people they deem inferior. Their ultimate hope is for society to collapse to the point of allowing them to act as a military/police arm of a fascist ruling class.

It's one of the reasons I hate liberals anti-gun stance. Whether or not they believe in violence as a tool doesn't change that the people who hate them do believe in violence. In fact in the case of groups like this violence is their chief aim not just a tool. Violence against racial and ethnic minorities, violence against the lgbtq community, violence against anyone but themselves. Unfortunately the day will come when that violence will have to be met with violence if they want to live and these soft ass people will not be ready.

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questionmarktarius is a weird poster. seems to take all the usual generic inflammatory right wing talking points but endlessly phrases them as questions and hypotheticals. he does not seem v smart

Why's everyone turning on Questionmark? He's a pretty chill poster

just doing some chill holocaust skepticism like a chill dude bro

Malfunction posted...

questionmarktarius is a weird poster. seems to take all the usual generic inflammatory right wing talking points but endlessly phrases them as questions and hypotheticals. he does not seem v smart

Is that who this alt is? I did notice that questionmarktarius was warned so it would make sense if he jumped on an alt to troll more...

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Machete posted...

Is that who this alt is? I did notice that questionmarktarius was warned so it would make sense if he jumped on an alt to troll more...

I think hes just talking about the posts in page 1.
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coh posted...

Why's everyone turning on Questionmark? He's a pretty chill poster

ideologically inconvenient nuance is the third rail of political discussion on CE

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we should work to prevent young people from becoming radicalized by making them feel cared for

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pokemon banned quick lol

Malfunction posted...

questionmarktarius is a weird poster. seems to take all the usual generic inflammatory right wing talking points but endlessly phrases them as questions and hypotheticals. he does not seem v smart

Yeah honestly I thought he was like actually normal and a half-decent poster for the longest time but then I started to notice a lot of his posts are just...bad.

E: Also that PokeMonMon account isn't him, it's more likely than not another 462/alexg alt, I saw it trolling on Hellhole yesterday and figured it was going to show up here as soon as it got 3 karma.
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Bio1590 posted...

Yeah honestly I thought he was like actually normal and a half-decent poster for the longest time but then I started to notice a lot of his posts are just...bad.

he spews a lot of the typical no-compassion right-winger stuff but disguises it with a very thin layer of mediocre rhetoric and talking points. he very much seems like the type of guy that's obsessed with being "logical" and hates all ideology but fails (or, more likely, refuses) to recognize the flaws in his own logic, or his own ideology

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just found this post. it was in a topic about an owner closing a business after the workers unionized


and his response to that:


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Does it say how many members the group consists of

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averagejoel posted...

just found this post. it was in a topic about an owner closing a business after the workers unionized
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and his response to that:
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Wildly off topic but what the fuck is that color scheme
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MarqueeSeries posted...

Wildly off topic but what the fuck is that color scheme

It's from a site that archives our posts.
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averagejoel posted...

he spews a lot of the typical no-compassion right-winger stuff but disguises it with a very thin layer of mediocre rhetoric and talking points. he very much seems like the type of guy that's obsessed with being "logical" and hates all ideology but fails (or, more likely, refuses) to recognize the flaws in his own logic, or his own ideology

yeah p much

i suppose he is still better than the guys who spew non-stop aggressive far right talking points but still

I like how there's a literal tankie in this topic and Questionmark is the one under scrutiny here

is coh that makorez whatever guy, seems to act similarly albeit with less loli

Cornmuffins posted...

It's from a site that archives our posts.

Also it's based on the old GF Pastel theme I think.

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Malfunction posted...

is coh that makorez whatever guy, seems to act similarly albeit with less loli

it's proudclad

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averagejoel posted...

it's proudclad

I know he's the same person who used to post here as UncleBourbon33 - I don't think that was Proudclad.
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it's definitely not proudclad. proudclad would post in more than little inflammatory vague snippets. hell, he couldn't help but do so!

Antifa are the real troops
and i'm not saying that ironically

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