Current Events > Vegans: "Please accommodate my diet at your parties/events."

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codey
01/21/20 2:18:02 PM
#51:


Coastal_elite posted...
so it's like a religion?

Like, what if you're cooking on a certified vegan, fair trade, non-GMO grill blessed in a ritual using patchouille juice and burning incense by Wai Lana and then accidentally someone dropped a sausage for 2 seconds on the lower right corner of the grill and all of the veggie patties are in the upper-left corner, is the whole batch spoiled?

What if the grill was used for burgers last week but it was washed and sterilized for 5 days straight, can it be used now? Is there a "one drop rule" for meat?

What's hard to understand? If it's clean, it's clean. BK isn't going to clean their entire cooking surface for one burger, so the patties run the risk of coming into contact with bits of chicken and beef.

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HerpToTheDerp
01/21/20 2:18:10 PM
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what necessitates the "building blocks of cooking" is entirely arbitrary in this day and age. my bf is lactose intolerant so we've plenty of dairy substitutes and the difference is minimal. ive really only noticed a difference when people try to incorporate other ingredients for the sake of being gluten free and low in sugar.
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Coastal_elite
01/21/20 2:20:46 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
You know no one believes your story, right?

your stalking is creepy as fuck, ROD
stop following me around and harassing me,
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LostForest
01/21/20 2:21:53 PM
#54:


HerpToTheDerp posted...
what necessitates the "building blocks of cooking" is entirely arbitrary in this day and age

No, though? Tell that to any chef who teachers about the chemistry involved with cooking science. Certain styles of cooking have been developed and tweaked and perfected as an artform for hundreds of years. Dismissing that as arbitrary is just as bad as dismissing Vegans' point of view as arbitrary.

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Coastal_elite
01/21/20 2:21:53 PM
#55:


RebelElite791 posted...
Yeah this doesn't happen. Vegans know well that they eat bread and salad and alcohol or bring their own food.

dude, you went POSTAL on me once when I got mad at bullfighting. You literally replied something along the lines of "do you eat meat? huh?! huh?!"
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RebelElite791
01/21/20 2:23:04 PM
#57:


Coastal_elite posted...
dude, you went POSTAL on me once when I got mad at bullfighting. You literally replied something along the lines of "do you eat meat? huh?! huh?!"
Reminder that you got two alts banned a few years back for following me around and making stuff up about me. But keep melting down at me in every topic for calling you by what everyone knows is your main. Maybe this account can get banned too and youll have to stick to YokoGeri

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Smashingpmkns
01/21/20 2:23:51 PM
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Funny how yall are talking about insufferable vegans when the only person that's coming off as insufferable is Coastal lmao
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Coastal_elite
01/21/20 2:24:09 PM
#59:


RebelElite791 posted...
Reminder that you got two alts banned a few years back for following me around and making stuff up about me. But keep melting down at me in every topic for calling you by what everyone knows is your main. Maybe this account can get banned too and youll have to stick to YokoGeri

oh, you're going to deny it?

So, you're ok with people who eat meat opposing bullfighting?

BTW I have had no accounts banned...see, now YOU are making up stuff
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HerpToTheDerp
01/21/20 2:24:43 PM
#60:


Coastal_elite posted...
why is it not the same thing?

This guy I know literally got mad for not having vegan options. But there was bread, ketchup, lettuce, onion, peppers (red and green), tomatoes and mushrooms. He threw a fit anyway.

How is it not the same thing as me not getting burger patties at a vegan event?
contrived anecdotes aside, let me pose it like this

vegan at non-vegan party: can't eat 100% of what's available. Options are inherently limited

non vegan at a vegan party: can eat 100% of what's available. same amount of options as literally everyone else.

how do you not see the difference? whether you think someone is justified or not in being upset or catered to, objectively speaking one person has less options than the other out of the two scenarios. they aren't the same regardless of how arbitrary you find the complaints
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Evening_Dragon
01/21/20 2:26:14 PM
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TC, reddit can't hurt you unless you go there to be mad.

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Coastal_elite
01/21/20 2:27:13 PM
#63:


HerpToTheDerp posted...
contrived anecdotes aside, let me pose it like this

vegan at non-vegan party: can't eat 100% of what's available. Options are inherently limited

non vegan at a vegan party: can eat 100% of what's available. same amount of options as literally everyone else.

how do you not see the difference? whether you think someone is justified or not in being upset or catered to, objectively speaking one person has less options than the other out of the two scenarios. they aren't the same regardless of how arbitrary you find the complaints

this is semantics... why would anyone have to be able to eat 100% of what's out there.

Say a guy doesn't like the taste of onion... can he raise a stink too over the BBQ having onions?

As long as you have some options you should be fine. And even if there was a nice 10 course menu made by the best vegan chefs for mr. vegan, he'd still NOT be able to eat 100% of the choices in the party, right?
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gikos
01/21/20 2:28:30 PM
#64:


LostForest posted...
I'm married and throw parties all the time. Literally had almost 20 people over for friendsgiving dinner party just a little over a month ago.

Sorry to disappoint you lol.
is this some kind of new holiday that i wasn't aware of


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HerpToTheDerp
01/21/20 2:29:19 PM
#65:


LostForest posted...
No, though? Tell that to any chef who teachers about the chemistry involved with cooking science. Certain styles of cooking have been developed and tweaked and perfected as an artform for hundreds of years. Dismissing that as arbitrary is just as bad as dismissing Vegans' point of view as arbitrary.
that's because veganism is moderately new. you said it yourself, the alternatives haven't had centuries of exposure or opportunities to develop or flourish. it's funny that you bring up science since that's constantly progressing and evolving. veganism is still in its infancy in this modern culinary age.
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Coastal_elite
01/21/20 2:30:04 PM
#66:


gikos posted...
is this some kind of new holiday that i wasn't aware of

it's another term for thanksgiving
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HerpToTheDerp
01/21/20 2:33:56 PM
#67:


Coastal_elite posted...
this is semantics... why would anyone have to be able to eat 100% of what's out there.

Say a guy doesn't like the taste of onion... can he raise a stink too over the BBQ having onions?

As long as you have some options you should be fine. And even if there was a nice 10 course menu made by the best vegan chefs for mr. vegan, he'd still NOT be able to eat 100% of the choices in the party, right?
it's not semantics. veganism has nothing to do with taste so your argument is invalid. unless this hypothetical has someone who is fundamentally/morally opposed to eating onions because of ogre rights or some shit, it's not the same kind of limitations. even if it was, vegans do not inherently enjoy all vegetables either.

the point is, one person has more options than the other. that's what I'm arguing. i don't know why you're trying to argue that fundamentally, a vegan has less options than a non vegan
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Coastal_elite
01/21/20 2:43:19 PM
#68:


HerpToTheDerp posted...
it's not semantics. veganism has nothing to do with taste so your argument is invalid. unless this hypothetical has someone who is fundamentally/morally opposed to eating onions because of ogre rights or some shit, it's not the same kind of limitations. even if it was, vegans do not inherently enjoy all vegetables either.

the point is, one person has more options than the other. that's what I'm arguing. i don't know why you're trying to argue that fundamentally, a vegan has less options than a non vegan

what I am arguing is, how does having less options (vegan) mean that they must get a special menu, when there are things they can eat there anyway?
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HerpToTheDerp
01/21/20 2:45:39 PM
#69:


Coastal_elite posted...
what I am arguing is, how does having less options (vegan) mean that they must get a special menu, when there are things they can eat there anyway?
why are you arguing that? the only reason we're having this discussion is because i said the two scenarios are not the same
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