Current Events > Often. Listen. Fasten. Soften.

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We as a society long ago decided that the 't' in these words is silent. Only in one of them have people started saying the 't' again, and it's really annoying.

i don't find it annoying at all, why would you be annoyed by this? that's odd. rise above man. what the hell.

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Work it harder
Make it better
Do it faster
Makes us stronger

More than ever
Hour after
Our work is
Never over

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GregShmedley posted...

I say often with a hard T. Always have.

Well you've always been wrong. Your teachers should have told you this.

do you remember taking a pronunciation class in school? truly just odd what you have going on here.

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nobody says offen

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RebelElite791 posted...

nobody says offen

Yes they do, and what made you delete soffen from this post? Realize that everyone says it that way?

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RebelElite791 posted...

nobody says offen

Yes they do, and what made you delete soffen from this post? Realize that everyone says it that way?

Still doesn't completely discredit his edited post. Often can be pronounced with or without a T sound (though more commonly with) according to dictionaries. The T is always observed as being silent in listen, fasten, and soften.
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The Trent posted...

do you remember taking a pronunciation class in school? truly just odd what you have going on here.

I don't remember quite how different subjects worked in elementary school. It's not like we had different classes. We certainly had "language arts" though and that's probably where they taught us how to pronounce things.

this is racist towards black people

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I don't remember quite how different subjects worked in elementary school. It's not like we had different classes. We certainly had "language arts" though and that's probably where they taught us how to pronounce things.

that's not how it works

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dolomedes posted...

they never covered dialect apparently

This isn't about dialect. It's about silent letters. These are all the same type of word with the "ten" suffix.

It's funny, I notice all my professors and people I consider to be intelligent know how "often" should be pronounced. It's a lot of dumb millennials that I know that say it with a hard T.

perhaps the professors and intelligence people you know have heard that language is an evolving, nebulous monster
but you do seem like the prescriptive type

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Purely posted...

This isn't about dialect. It's about silent letters. These are all the same type of word with the "ten" suffix.

It's funny, I notice all my professors and people I consider to be intelligent know how "often" should be pronounced. It's a lot of dumb millennials that I know that say it with a hard T.

Its definitely dialectical variation and you know nothing about how language works.

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RebelElite791 posted...

Its definitely dialectical variation and you know nothing about how language works.

If it was about dialect, I wouldn't be hearing people from my area saying it differently and pissing me off. Think a little bit, dude.

dolomedes posted...

lmao perhaps they came from different regions?

They didn't.

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If it was about dialect, I wouldn't be hearing people from my area saying it differently and pissing me off. Think a little bit, dude.

Ideolect then. Again, language is built by and defined by usage.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/often I guess MW are a bunch of dumb millennials

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Purely posted...

Think a little bit, dude.

why should we have to when you don't
shit's not even

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My external voice says none of these Ts, but my inner brain voice when reading says it for often and soften.

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