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Oh_Boy_ 01/18/20 4:57:34 PM #1: |
Is this colorism/racism?
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Dark skiined black woman goes on a date with a white guy and he leaves a few minutes in. Radio station calls him up and he says that her pictures online showed her skin toi be lighter than what it was and he has dated black and other non white women but he is not into very dark women. Preference or racism, iyo? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hitokoriX 01/18/20 5:03:59 PM #2: |
Its ingrained discrimination. He might not recognize it, but if its specifically skin tone... then where do you think that comes from?
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Fony 01/18/20 5:04:07 PM #3: |
meh, preference. also, from the story it's clear that she catfished him by lightening her skin in pictures.it's kind of crazy how the host blamed black men for this(lol). black women need to realize that just throwing hate on us won't help them out. non-black men have a million racial and phenotypical preferences and they are matter of fact about it, as natural as breathing air.
the guy clearly likes black women and has dated them in the past, but has a preference. she clearly likes white men, is she racist? lol. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InhumaneRaider 01/18/20 5:06:50 PM #4: |
Preference, you can't really help who you're attracted to.
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averagejoel 01/18/20 5:08:20 PM #5: |
InhumaneRaider posted...
Preference, you can't really help who you're attracted to.that doesn't mean it's not also racism --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KillerKhan420 01/18/20 5:10:48 PM #6: |
averagejoel posted...
that doesn't mean it's not also racism Yes it does. You like what you like, ain't nothing racist about it. --- "I know how the business works because I'm a wrestling fan"-hulkhogan1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cobra1010 01/18/20 5:12:34 PM #7: |
Theres preference, then theres "i dont date asians because they look like my brother" and "i have a no dating asians policy".
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Keith_Valentine 01/18/20 5:13:20 PM #8: |
Preference. Seems pretty obvious to me.
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InhumaneRaider 01/18/20 5:13:53 PM #9: |
averagejoel posted...
that doesn't mean it's not also racismHow is it racist? I can see if you're like, "Hell no I won't date Black girls, I want my children to look like me." Outside of that, people have preferences for everything body types, features, etc. --- When a girly pop song comes on the radio, sometimes, i leave it on, 'cause dang it, top 40 hits are in the 40 for a reason, they're catchy! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 01/18/20 5:15:38 PM #10: |
InhumaneRaider posted...
How is it racist? I can see if you're like, "Hell no I won't date Black girls, I want my children to look like me."those preferences are informed by society society is racist --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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miki_sauvester 01/18/20 5:15:51 PM #11: |
It is objectively preference.
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Evol 01/18/20 5:15:55 PM #12: |
Yes, people are hiding behind "preference" to be bigoted bullies, quite frankly.
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averagejoel 01/18/20 5:17:50 PM #13: |
miki_sauvester posted...
It is objectively preference. averagejoel posted... that doesn't mean it's not also racism --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fony 01/18/20 5:22:11 PM #14: |
Cobra1010 posted...
Theres preference, then theres "i dont date asians because they look like my brother" and "i have a no dating asians policy". False equivalence. It's well documented that Asian women like this only like white men and tend to get with racist white guys on top of it...and tend to hold other racist views themselves. The guy in the OP LIKES black women and is seeking black women to date, he just has a physical preference. If you ask CE to list 10 attractive black women you'll all pad the list with biracials, LOL! --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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R_Jackal 01/18/20 5:23:12 PM #15: |
Little from column A, little from column B. I mean we won't know on racism until we can get in the guys head tbh, but... you're also attracted to what you're attracted to. Granted, entirely possible the person is just pulling the "I'm not racist I've dated black/non-white people!" card.
Everyone is "discriminatory" to some features of other people, whether you think about it or not. It could be something as easily changed as hair color, or a feature that's potentially not even the other persons fault at all--like scars or some such, to things that can't be changed(at least easily) like skin tone. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InhumaneRaider 01/18/20 5:25:53 PM #16: |
averagejoel posted...
those preferences are informed by societyThat doesn't make it racist. You find attractive what you find attractive. There's Black guys who aren't attracted to dark-skinned girls. There's white girls who aren't attracted to white boys, that doesn't make them racist. That's just how they are. --- When a girly pop song comes on the radio, sometimes, i leave it on, 'cause dang it, top 40 hits are in the 40 for a reason, they're catchy! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pendulum_summon 01/18/20 5:27:23 PM #17: |
Cobra1010 posted...
Theres preference, then theres "i dont date asians because they look like my brother" and "i have a no dating asians policy".This shit pisses me off Its self hatred and insanity/cowardice ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 01/18/20 5:29:39 PM #18: |
InhumaneRaider posted...
That doesn't make it racist. You find attractive what you find attractive. There's Black guys who aren't attracted to dark-skinned girls. There's white girls who aren't attracted to white boys, that doesn't make them racist. That's just how they are.there's no such thing as "just how they are." (at least, not in the way you seem to mean it) people are raised in society. society is racist. that leads people to internalize racist ideas, including ideas of what beauty is --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Oh_Boy_ 01/18/20 5:30:31 PM #19: |
Honestly, as a mixed white/asian guy who has dated black women, I prefer medium shade like milk chocolate. I wouldn't turn a woman down on skin color alone though.
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Cobra1010 01/18/20 5:39:56 PM #20: |
Oh_Boy_ posted...
Honestly, as a mixed white/asian guy who has dated black women, I prefer medium shade like milk chocolate. I wouldn't turn a woman down on skin color alone though.Let me guess, your mum is asian and dad is white? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InhumaneRaider 01/18/20 5:43:06 PM #21: |
averagejoel posted...
people are raised in society. society is racist. that leads people to internalize racist ideas, including ideas of what beauty isThis doesn't even make sense. Just like orientation, you don't choose what what features you're attracted to and which features you're not. In that case, men who won't date other men, are homophobic. I think it's racist to say, "all White or Black women are unattractive". That's just ignorant. But having preferences, are not racist. --- When a girly pop song comes on the radio, sometimes, i leave it on, 'cause dang it, top 40 hits are in the 40 for a reason, they're catchy! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hop103 01/18/20 5:46:42 PM #22: |
Colorism only exists in South Korea and the story itself rules out racism, so preference is the only factor left.
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Evol 01/18/20 5:48:37 PM #23: |
Hop103 posted...
Colorism only exists in South Korea and the story itself rules out racism, so preference is the only factor left. What a stupid ass comment ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 01/18/20 5:49:43 PM #24: |
InhumaneRaider posted...
Just like orientation, you don't choose what what features you're attracted to and which features you're not.I never suggested that anyone chose which features they were attracted to. but that also has no bearing on whether or not the preferences are racist InhumaneRaider posted... In that case, men who won't date other men, are homophobic.preferences are not the same thing as sexual orientation. InhumaneRaider posted... I think it's racist to say, "all White or Black women are unattractive". That's just ignorant.ok. but that isn't all that racism is InhumaneRaider posted... But having preferences, are not racist.having a preference is not, in and of itself, racist. however, some specific preferences are informed by the societal system of racism, and reinforce some of its effects in day-to-day life. such preferences could accurately be called racist. --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Oh_Boy_ 01/18/20 5:49:50 PM #25: |
Cobra1010 posted...
Let me guess, your mum is asian and dad is white? Yes, and they're the scummy stereotypical racist loser couple. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Keith_Valentine 01/18/20 5:50:27 PM #26: |
averagejoel posted...
there's no such thing as "just how they are." (at least, not in the way you seem to mean it) Can you imagine this guy irl? Hes saying were all so racist, we dont even have control over who we are attracted to. Do you have a girlfriend, joel? How massive is your porn collection? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gatorsPENSbucs 01/18/20 5:51:38 PM #27: |
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Fony 01/18/20 5:53:34 PM #28: |
Sorry guys, Even people with no racist biases have a preference in romantic partner. It is not a bash on those outside of that preference. This narrative is just designed to be a cheat code for forcing everyone to like women they're not attracted to while those same women have race preferences themselves.
Remember that mediocre black chick on Love Island who explicitly only wanted to date blonde haired, blue eyed white men and they ALL rejected her ass? She cried colorism, and then a brunette dated her just to get on TV. Not long after he was seen making out with a blonde white woman behind her back, no sympathy here. They BOTH wanted white blondes, only problem is she's not a white blonde. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 01/18/20 5:55:08 PM #29: |
Fony posted...
Even people with no racist biases have a preference in romantic partner.in mathematics and logic, this type of statement is called a "vacuous truth" --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InhumaneRaider 01/18/20 5:56:07 PM #30: |
averagejoel posted...
I never suggested that anyone chose which features they were attracted to.This doesn't make sense. You can't control what you're attracted to, but preferences are still inherently racist. O.K, bub. averagejoel posted... preferences are not the same thing as sexual orientation.You can't help what you're attracted to same as sexual orientation. averagejoel posted... ok. but that isn't all that racism isLmfao, then what the fuck is racist to you? That rings pretty damn high on the racism scale. averagejoel posted... having a preference is not, in and of itself, racist. however, some specific preferences are informed by the societal system of racism, and reinforce some of its effects in day-to-day life. such preferences could accurately be called racist.So are you ever going to say what preferences are racist? Or are you going to keep spouting this nonsense? --- When a girly pop song comes on the radio, sometimes, i leave it on, 'cause dang it, top 40 hits are in the 40 for a reason, they're catchy! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Evol 01/18/20 5:57:08 PM #31: |
Keith_Valentine posted...
Can you imagine this guy irl? Hes saying were all so racist, we dont even have control over who we are attracted to. It's well known racist white people (who have had the most power over everything) have been upholding white, European beauty standards for centuries. Who do you think you're fooling? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fony 01/18/20 5:58:35 PM #32: |
averagejoel posted...
in mathematics and logic, this type of statement is called a "vacuous truth" All things being equal most black men prefer black women and most white men prefer white women. Is this wrong/racist? No. Would it change if society weren't as racist? No. In group preference is always the norm, you can point to the countries with the best racial equality on earth and dating preferences are the same along all cultural and racial lines. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fony 01/18/20 6:01:26 PM #33: |
Evol posted...
It's well known racist white people (who have had the most power over everything) have been upholding white, European beauty standards for centuries. Who do you think you're fooling? White guilt is so funny and slightly embarrassing to watch in action. Exactly what percentage of white men would be into black women if the so called beauty standard didn't exist? And is it a serious train of thought that white men have to be or are hypnotized into preferring their own damn race, and women who closely resemble their race? Really? And for all this virtuous posting, how many of you even like black girls? Because every time they're brought up 90% of this place just brings up a ton of ambiguous looking and biracial women. Sometimes women who are only 10% black. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 01/18/20 6:06:33 PM #34: |
InhumaneRaider posted...
This doesn't make sense. You can't control what you're attracted to, but preferences are still inherently racist. O.K, bub.that is not what I said. You can't help what you're attracted to same as sexual orientation.I don't particularly care if that's true or not. factually, preferences are not the same as sexual orientation, and they should not be treated as such. your analogy is ineffective. Lmfao, then what the fuck is racist to you? That rings pretty damn high on the racism scale.I said it was racist, but that racism is not limited to that. i.e. that is not the only thing that is racist. So are you ever going to say what preferences are racist?no. that's irrelevant to the point that I'm making. Or are you going to keep spouting this nonsense?at this point, you either lack reading comprehension or are intentionally misrepresenting what I'm saying --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 01/18/20 6:11:41 PM #35: |
Fony posted...
All things being equal most black men prefer black women and most white men prefer white women. Is this wrong/racist? No. Would it change if society weren't as racist? No. In group preference is always the norm, you can point to the countries with the best racial equality on earth and dating preferences are the same along all cultural and racial lines.ok, apparently I was a little too subtle with my jab. this statement: Even people with no racist biases have a preference in romantic partner. is meaningless, because no people are completely without racist biases. --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Keith_Valentine 01/18/20 6:14:07 PM #36: |
Evol posted...
It's well known racist white people (who have had the most power over everything) have been upholding white, European beauty standards for centuries. Who do you think you're fooling? How so? How is anyone prevented from being attracted to whoever they want? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fony 01/18/20 6:17:54 PM #37: |
averagejoel posted...
ok, apparently I was a little too subtle with my jab. So are you racist then. since you're 95% most likely like other white men who don't date black women? If so, does racism in dating even matter? inb4youpretendtobeaminority --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InhumaneRaider 01/18/20 6:19:02 PM #38: |
averagejoel posted...
I never suggested that anyone chose which features they were attracted to. averagejoel posted... but that also has no bearing on whether or not the preferences are racistThat's exactly what you said. averagejoel posted... I don't particularly care if that's true or not. factually, preferences are not the same as sexual orientation, and they should not be treated as such. your analogy is ineffective.Lmao, you say that the statement may or may not be true and then try to throw out a baseless statement with no factual backing. How do you know? You can't possibly know if someone can help what they're attracted to. Some people are attracted to White people. Some aren't. Is that racial bias? averagejoel posted... I said it was racist, but that racism is not limited to that. i.e. that is not the only thing that is racist. averagejoel posted... no. that's irrelevant to the point that I'm making.It's completely relevant, but you can't argue what is and what isn't racist, because most of it comes down to preferences you don't choose. --- When a girly pop song comes on the radio, sometimes, i leave it on, 'cause dang it, top 40 hits are in the 40 for a reason, they're catchy! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 01/18/20 6:26:37 PM #39: |
Fony posted...
So are you racist then. since you're 95% most likely like other white men who don't date black women?of course I'm racist. that's part of growing up in a racist society. I'm racist in a lot of ways that I don't realize. a major part of personal growth is unlearning, via conscious effort, harmful attitudes that you learned implicitly through your socialization (also, for what it's worth, I have dated black women before, and I would do so again.) If so, does racism in dating even matter?it certainly matters to people of colour who are trying to have a romantic partner --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 01/18/20 6:28:17 PM #40: |
InhumaneRaider posted...
That's exactly what you said.point out where I said, or in any way suggested, that people chose (or even were capable of choosing) the features they are attracted to. --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BigDoinks 01/18/20 6:28:27 PM #41: |
What the fuck is colorism
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cellus523 01/18/20 6:37:25 PM #42: |
BigDoinks posted...
What the fuck is colorismThe concept that lighter/whiter skin is better. It pertains to more than just appearance as in some communities it means you're more likely to be accepted if you're not darker skinned and less likely to be discriminated against. --- Name: cellus My FC: SW-3853-8978-7474 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThanksUglyGod 01/18/20 6:40:51 PM #43: |
If you won't date someone specifically because of the color of their skin...that's pretty obviously racist behavior.
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Evol 01/18/20 6:53:52 PM #44: |
Fony posted...
White guilt is so funny and slightly embarrassing to watch in action. Exactly what percentage of white men would be into black women if the so called beauty standard didn't exist? And is it a serious train of thought that white men have to be or are hypnotized into preferring their own damn race, and women who closely resemble their race? Really? And for all this virtuous posting, how many of you even like black girls? Because every time they're brought up 90% of this place just brings up a ton of ambiguous looking and biracial women. Sometimes women who are only 10% black. 1. I'm biracial (my dad was black) and gay. 2. I have posted numerous dark skin black men before, and I am very attracted to black men. Why do people like you avoid facts and history? Thats what I wanna know. You're just gonna act like the media doesn't put white people front and center and awfully represent black people? You're just gonna act like it didn't take a very long time for black models to be showcased and black beauty represented? You're just gonna act like black features haven't been constantly put down, and black people negatively portrayed? All you have to do is google and there are countless articles about this. The ignorance is astounding. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gatorsPENSbucs 01/18/20 6:56:13 PM #45: |
This site causes the worst deja vu...these topics are made every week but it really seems like the same exact shit is being said every time. Having a preference isnt racist. Not dating someone because you dont like the people associated with the color of their skin makes you racist.
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Fony 01/18/20 7:14:22 PM #46: |
Lol, this is so funny. No force on earth will ever make people prefer people of a different race at the same rate as their own.
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averagejoel 01/18/20 7:33:23 PM #47: |
Fony posted...
No force on earth will ever make people prefer people of a different race at the same rate as their own.I don't know if that's true. I also don't care. it is irrelevant to the point --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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legendary_zell 01/18/20 8:40:06 PM #48: |
Are people really so uncritical that they think that what people are attracted to is completely individual and unaffected by larger societal values? I'm sure no one has ever been into blackened teeth, powdered faces, elongated necks, lotus feet, rubenesque figures, face tattoos, stretched earlobes, and lip plates then. And I'm sure centuries of media and culture uplifting certain physical features and disparaging others, as well as class and upward social mobility has NOTHING to do with what you find attractive as well.
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Fony 01/18/20 8:55:25 PM #49: |
I wonder why the people who make this argument never actually date black women. What's holding you back?
Even other black men who rave about being "for the race" don't even marry black women. Isn't it easier to live it than to strong arm fucking strangers? --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 01/18/20 9:02:36 PM #50: |
Fony posted...
I wonder why the people who make this argument never actually date black women. What's holding you back?first of all: which argument? second of all: [citation needed] --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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