Current Events > Overwatch killed TF2 for the wrong reason

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It was around the time of Overwatch's announcement that everyone started taking serious the idea that TF2 needed to become Competitve Serious Buisness. A hat simulator designed for 12v12 gameplay suddenly needed to cater to 6v6 players. They redesigned the menus into awful, generic shit, and briefly made it so that you couldn't even select what map you wanted from Quickplay. They also changed the way servers functioned, so instead of having a universal clock that decided when the map would change, they set it to Best of Two, so if you just wanted to play on Dustbowl or something, you were massively inconvenienced, and because of this new rotation you were almost guaranteed to lose half the players on each change. They also started massive balance changes, some of which were arguably pretty overdue (like The Sandman), but many just declawing fun but strong weapons for the sake of 6v6 Plat banlists.

It's incredible to look at how much great stuff was added in the Love & War (Parachute, the best rocket launcher, the best Demoknight shield, Conga, RPS) update and how quickly things went downhill from Gun Mettle onwards

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TF2 should never have had different weapons or matchmaking

TF2 has basically been dead since 2010 dude

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Tf2 was already dead when ow came out

Dont they have 4 literal monkeys working on it at this point

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TF2 just got dated. They should have made a 3rd close to the time Overwatch released.

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why are people calling tf2 dead when it still averages 60-80k a day

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I don't think the game would've lasted nearly as long without different weapons, and that's one of the issues I have with their attempts to balance the game, that being that most of their attempts just made the affected weapon an unusable gimmick like the Reserve Shooter or Axtinguisher.

Matchmaking was dead in the water. How much time must they have spent on that for it to go nowhere?

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Demoknight was the update that made me stop playing TF2

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TF2 is still the better game. People just wanted something shiny and new.

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Honestly i hoped that ow would motivate valve to make tf3 but ow sorta died too so lmao

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darkprince45 posted...

TF2 has basically been dead since 2010 dude

I only got into TF2 in 2011 and had a joyous experience for years. When I refer to killing TF2 here I mean that these changes I outlined ripped out the heart of the game imo.

Zero_Destroyer posted...

why are people calling tf2 dead when it still averages 60-80k a day

I've heard a massive amount of that is botters, but in any case yeah you can still find servers.

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MabusIncarnate posted...

TF2 just got dated. They should have made a 3rd close to the time Overwatch released.

See, Valve would have to understand the concept of a third game for that to happen
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Highwind07 posted...

Meet Your Match.

Same for me. I peeked into the Jungle Inferno Update the maps were pretty bad imo.

I've been trying to recapture the spark but I just can't. I wish they'd get the artist to make the last TF# comic book issue so I can close the door on this.

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All the weapons they added to the game always felt entirely useless but with every wave of them there was one genuinely useful one that always got nerfed deep into the ground to kill the fun people were having with it

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TF2 is still balanced. A soldier is a soldier, a heavy is a heavy, a scout is a scout.

Overwatch has these 'league of legends champions' with abilities that all unique and makes the game impossible to balance.


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