Current Events > This Pokemon thing is upsetting me on the inside.

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Oh we heard you wanted more pokemans in Sword and Shield? Well give us more money and you will!

Also, since we know some people buy both versions, we brilliantly thought to make it so those people have to give us money twice, again!

...Fuck you.
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Nobody is making you get the dlc bro

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They have been milking money from you since the beginning, bro. Why are you mad only now?

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The company that has always split its game into several releases so you're forced to buy multiple games to get all pokemon... does a thing where you have to pay more to get all the pokemon?

No way

No matter what they do at this point in any game, the whiners will complain

People even complain about free DLC too now?

Or did you not read/watch the whole thing and just want to complain?

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Alpha218 posted...

Nobody is making you get the dlc bro

what a completely useless post. shut the fuck up

Veggeta_MAX posted...

They have been milking money from you since the beginning, bro. Why are you mad only now?

because it's worse now than it's ever been before.

They know you'll still buy it. It's actually pretty smart
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I thought they specifically said they weren't adding more Pokmon back in before this?

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TheRobber posted...

what a completely useless post. shut the fuck up

You can still get the Pokmon without purchasing the DLC, through trading or HOME. So no, my post is not useless at all. Your angry response is though

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There's a free update that will let you trade or transfer the old pokemon added in the expansion. And before you complain that you can't catch them a lot of the games that allowed you to transfer pokemon into the generation had pokemon that were not catchable in the region and required transfer.

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When gamers are like theyve always been shitty, why are you complaining now

Do yall hear yourselves?

Yall just look the other way because its always happened huh


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Alpha218 posted...

TheRobber posted...

what a completely useless post. shut the fuck up

You can still get the Pokmon without purchasing the DLC, through trading or HOME. So no, my post is not useless at all. Your angry response is though

Eh. You have to pay for HOME. And getting 200 pokemon through trading isn't really ideal. They should have added them to the main game wild area.
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Alpha218 posted...

You can still get the Pokmon without purchasing the DLC, through trading or HOME. So no, my post is not useless at all. Your angry response is though

Post #2 was useless. Nowhere in post #2 did you explain the trading or HOME parts of it.

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SwayM posted...

When gamers are like theyve always been shitty, why are you complaining now

Do yall hear yourselves?

Yall just look the other way because its always happened huh

This is a weird comment coming from someone who shits their pants every time a person expresses scepticism regarding the FF7 remake.
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Wait so you can get both dlc on one version?

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I dont really have a problem with game expansions existing tbh

SwSh was a complete game (if only a B game instead of an A+ game). Adding two DLC packs with more content, lands, pokemon, and stuff people asked for a year later for $30 total doesnt really offend me

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Smashingpmkns posted...

Eh. You have to pay for HOME. And getting 200 pokemon through trading isn't really ideal. They should have added them to the main game wild area.

This is how it has worked in previous games wrt to the National dex though. Transfer-only mons had to be imported thru bank or traded. The only difference this time is you can pay to get access to an area where you can catch them without having to transfer them up.

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Vermander posted...

Wait so you can get both dlc on one version?

yes, one launches in June and the other later in 2020

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tbh That they are adding 200 this year (that you can get without having to buy the dlc) is a lot more than I expected.

Im actually considering buying it now. Theoretically I think making the new areas in the dlc feature mostly previously unavailable pokemon will help keep things fresh

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Alpha218 posted...

You can still get the Pokmon without purchasing the DLC, through trading or HOME. So no, my post is not useless at all. Your angry response is though

your post said nothing about that. it was, again, completely useless.

DeadBankerDream posted...

This is a weird comment coming from someone who shits their pants every time a person expresses scepticism regarding the FF7 remake.

you wanna talk about weird comments and then reach so hard you dislocate your arm

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Alpha218 posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

Eh. You have to pay for HOME. And getting 200 pokemon through trading isn't really ideal. They should have added them to the main game wild area.

This is how it has worked in previous games wrt to the National dex though. Transfer-only mons had to be imported thru bank or traded. The only difference this time is you can pay to get access to an area where you can catch them without having to transfer them up.

Just because they've been doing it doesn't mean it's a good thing though. Plenty people have complained about this throughout the existence of the series. It's a legitimate complaint especially when SwSh removed 60% or so of the nat dex.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

Just because they've been doing it doesn't mean it's a good thing though. Plenty people have complained about this throughout the existence of the series. It's a legitimate complaint especially when SwSh removed 60% or so of the nat dex.

I didnt say that it was a good or bad thing. Just that he doesnt have to buy the DLC, if he wants to get the Pokmon. He can use the same method to obtain Pokmon not in the regional dex as you could in old gens. Its not being taken away.

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I'll be buying the DLC for both Sword and Shield. I'll get it for the wife too. $120 well spent for countless hours of fun.

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You rather pay for a 3rd game? Also the smaller dex thing was gonna happen eventually, I mean not even Digimon has over 1000 mons in their games. Hell do any of the digimon games have over 500?

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LightHawKnight posted...

You rather pay for a 3rd game? Also the smaller dex thing was gonna happen eventually, I mean not even Digimon has over 1000 mons in their games. Hell do any of the digimon games have over 500?

The smaller dex would have worked if they actually made a truly good game, it wouldnt be such a big deal if the game actually felt brand new and exciting to play.

They could also come up with a ton of different ways to give players a different pool of Pokmon that only they can catch to encourage trading while still only buying one game. Seeing two copies of the same game...man they got you guys over a fuckin barrel

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The one thing the 3rd verision always did was invalidate the original two because they never updated them to at least use the new content. At least with the expansion pass, not buying it doesn't prevent you from battling against trainers using pokemon only available in the expansion.

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People do realize there will be not just one, but TWO new areas to explore with some new features/customization stuff along with the 200 pokemon, right?

Whether this stuff ends up being actually good or not is yet to be seen, though it's seriously bugging me that people are acting like the 200 pokemon are the ONLY thing that's coming for the 30$...

Smashingpmkns posted...

Eh. You have to pay for HOME. And getting 200 pokemon through trading isn't really ideal. They should have added them to the main game wild area.

Wouldn't it be a bitch to find a Pokemon you want if they're sharing a space with several other hundred?
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MagnusDJL posted...

People do realize there will be not just one, but TWO new areas to explore with some new features/customization stuff along with the 200 pokemon, right?

Whether this stuff ends up being actually good or not is yet to be seen, though it's seriously bugging me that people are acting like the 200 pokemon are the ONLY thing that's coming for the 30$...

Wait, two areas?

They really outdid themselves


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TheRobber posted...

because it's worse now than it's ever been before.

I mean we're talking about the series that convinced millions of kids to buy two copies of the same game, a second Gameboy and a link cable by taking Pokemon out of the game, under the pretense it was to make it a social thing.

How is it worse than ever before? Man, people are gonna be super pissed when they remember or find out the stuff Nintendo has done.


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im not going to buy a dlc just for pokemon, especially considering the other proposed draw is new areas and sword/shield has the worst slapdash area design of any game ive played in the series

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SwayM posted...

Wait, two areas?

They really outdid themselves

two large areas similar to the wild area, yeah. Or atleast that's how I understood it.

Darmik posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

Eh. You have to pay for HOME. And getting 200 pokemon through trading isn't really ideal. They should have added them to the main game wild area.

Wouldn't it be a bitch to find a Pokemon you want if they're sharing a space with several other hundred?

Previous games had a mechanic that actually fixed this but they removed it from SwSh.
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Veggeta_MAX posted...

I mean we're talking about the series that convinced millions of kids to buy two copies of the same game, a second Gameboy and a link cable by taking Pokemon out of the game, under the pretense it was to make it a social thing.

How is it worse than ever before? Man, people are gonna be super pissed when they remember or find out the stuff Nintendo has done.

because at least the games had content. sword and shield are so barebones it's not even funny, and now you have to pay $30 extra to have some proper postgame content.
also, I never bought both versions of the games. trading the exclusives was easy, especially once we got the GTS. WHICH SWORD AND SHIELD TOOK OUT, because they're complete garbage.

I actually like the idea of DLC rather than an "enhanced" version that's basically the same price. My problem is when they start adding exclusive Legendaries that also evolve. It's hard to get a Living Dex that way (can't breed them) unless you trade with people and they want the farm because you only get one Legend in a playthrough. idk it stresses me out a lot and basically forces me to play through many times to get it myself.

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My brother buys the opposite version that I do and we just trade what we need from each other last time a user here traded with me as well plus $30 isn't a problem. If you can't afford that then maybe you shouldn't be playing video games at all if you can't spare $30 on a hobby you enjoy.

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MagnusDJL posted...

two large areas similar to the wild area, yeah. Or atleast that's how I understood it.

Big fucking deal? Wild Area is small as hell. If your character wasn't so slow, you get to the one end to another in like 2 min

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legendarylemur posted...

Big fucking deal? Wild Area is small as hell. If your character wasn't so slow, you get to the one end to another in like 2 min

Like I said, who knows if the areas will really be good or not? I'm certainly not saying that the DLC is 100% guaranteed to be good, I'm just tired of people being like "HAHA THEY'RE JUST SELLING 200 POKEMON FOR 30$" when there's clearly more to it than that.

Let the haters hate. It's useless trying to reason with them. The fake outrage is real. Give them anything they want and they'll whine.

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Maybe it was fake if we didn't have Sword and Shield to go by. DLC's the same shitty engine with 0 potential, same Wild Area mechanics. You guys are the ones working outside of standard logic by giving Gamefreak a benefit of the doubt for the 50th time. You guys are the ones planting a weird fake defense

Wild Area is actually horse shit. Why can't the bikes go down small hills? Why are the wild areas a literal flat plain? They already showed off the same uninspired randomly painted grass piles to hold Pokemon in. Raids pretty much make it so that the overworld pokemon catching is inefficient and a huge waste of time outside completing an incomplete Pokedex. But Raids are incredibly boring and horribly designed. They take too long even tho all it comes down to is keep attacking with super effective hit. 0 strategy involved

Also it's coming at June. They took like 2 years making a fifth of a terrible game. You think in like 6ish months they can make anything better? This is just like an asset reuse with some new Pokemon sprinkled in

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If you didn't like Sword/Shield I doubt this DLC will change anything no.
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Darmik posted...

If you didn't like Sword/Shield I doubt this DLC will change anything no.

They were gonna hate it no matter what.

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SwayM posted...

The smaller dex would have worked if they actually made a truly good game, it wouldnt be such a big deal if the game actually felt brand new and exciting to play.

They could also come up with a ton of different ways to give players a different pool of Pokmon that only they can catch to encourage trading while still only buying one game. Seeing two copies of the same game...man they got you guys over a fuckin barrel

The whole point of the difficulty is designing the mons and putting them in the game. Is there another mon game that has over a 1000 mons available? Hell even SMT's demon list isn't breaking 1000.

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LightHawKnight posted...

The whole point of the difficulty is designing the mons and putting them in the game. Is there another mon game that has over a 1000 mons available? Hell even SMT's demon list isn't breaking 1000.

they only have themselves to blame, easy to churn out 2D sprites but they should have had an endgame in mind YEARS ago. If they cant handle the demand of creating so many creatures for increasingly better platforms then tough shit. Other companies have adapted just fine.

you would all have a leg to stand on IF they actually used the benefit of a smaller pool of creature to animate to improve ANYTHING. But they didnt. Its embarrassing how bad this game is

https://imgur.com/a/Gd1pC9L


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TheRobber posted...

because at least the games had content.

Red and Blue are the most bare bones games in the series. Literally no Endgame other than one dungeon.

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I'm not a big RBY guy but being better than a 2 decade+ old game isn't a big accomplishment

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SwayM posted...

they only have themselves to blame, easy to churn out 2D sprites but they should have had an endgame in mind YEARS ago. If they cant handle the demand of creating so many creatures for increasingly better platforms then tough shit. Other companies have adapted just fine.

I can't really think of another valid comparison. Closest I can think of is WWE but they most certainly haven't adapted just fine.
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PatrickMahomes posted...

Post #2 was useless. Nowhere in post #2 did you explain the trading or HOME parts of it.

Well, the trading part shouldnt need explaining nt as thats how its been since the first games. In the first games, you needed to trade to get them all. As for the home part, its probably in an article, or was explained... I mean, people obviously know about it. So its somewhere...

LightHawKnight posted...

You rather pay for a 3rd game? Also the smaller dex thing was gonna happen eventually, I mean not even Digimon has over 1000 mons in their games. Hell do any of the digimon games have over 500?

I mentioned that before. And people got mad when I did. Eventually, they would stop putting all the Pokmon in games. And people were mad because of the medals or whatever they are...
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Alteres posted...

I thought they specifically said they weren't adding more Pokmon back in before this?

They said they weren't bringing every pokemon back in a game again IIRC.

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