Current Events > Which sci-fi movie franchise with 4 or more movies has fucked up the least?

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I'd still give it to Star Wars.

Which says a lot.

Even if I expand it to three movies I think its only competition would be Back to the Future.

I guess it's hard to keep a movie franchise going for a long time huh.

Maybe Avatar will be the one to nail a perfect saga!
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wait there's a starship troopers 2?

SauI_Goodman posted...

wait there's a starship troopers 2?

There's like 6

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-_-

I am legit interested in the people who vote Alien or Predator.

Like I like Aliens and Predator more than any single Star Wars movie. But I can watch Attack of the Clones and The Rise of Skywalker and at least get some enjoyment out of it. But both franchises have more than one movie that are outright unwatchable. In one case they're both in the same incredibly awful piece of garbage. I do not have the heart to watch The Predator.
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Do the AvP movies count against the Alien franchise, the Predator franchise, or both?

The Predator movies, minus the AvP bullshittery, were all watchable one way or another. Alien is still screwed over by 3 and Resurrection.

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meralonne posted...

Do the AvP movies count against the Alien franchise, the Predator franchise, or both?

Both.
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If we count dystopian-future as a sub-genre of science fiction, then Mad Max pretty much walks away with this handily right? I mean it's worst entry is still good.

If not that, then Tremors has no real low point for me so long as Michael Gross is still around and they still fully embrace their campiness.

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Stargate has actually remained very consistent.

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008Zulu posted...

Stargate has actually remained very consistent.

That's the one franchise on this list where I haven't watched a single thing. For a long time I thought it was a TV show.
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Irony posted...

There's like 6

Unfortunately

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I dunno, Lego?
Ninjago wasn't quite awful.

Darmik posted...

That's the one franchise on this list where I haven't watched a single thing. For a long time I thought it was a TV show.

i don't think it meets your criteria. there are only 3 movies, and two of them are a bit of a reboot (along with all the television) of the first one. there have been rumors of sequels for a while, but i don't think they're ever actually getting made.

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Is star wars sci-fi?
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meralonne posted...

Do the AvP movies count against the Alien franchise, the Predator franchise, or both?

Darmik posted...

Both.

So much for Predator, then.

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Star Wars
I: Bad -1
II: Really Bad -2
III: Decent +2
Solo: Decent +2
Rogue One: Excellent +5
IV: Great +4
V: Excellent +5
VI: Good +3
VII: Decent +2
VIII: Bad -1
IX: Bad -1
+18

Alien Good +3
Aliens Excellent +5
Alien 3 Decent +2
Alien Resurrection Really Bad -2
Prometheus Bad -1
Covenant Really Bad -2
AVP 1 Decent +2
AVP 2 Bad -1
+6

Predator
1: Good +3
2: Decent +2
Predators: Good +3
The Predator: Terrible -3
AVP 1 Decent +2
AVP 2 Bad -1
+6

Terminator
I: Good 3
2: Excellent 5
3: Bad -1
4: Bad -1
5: Terrible -3
6: Terrible -3
+0

Robocop
I: Decent 2
II: Decent 2
III: Bad -1
+3

Stargate
Not worth rating

Starship Troopers
Not worth rating

Star Trek
Haven't seen most of these

Transformers
Cartoon: Great +4
I: Good +3
II: Decent +2
III: Terrible -3
IV: Terrible -3
V: Terrible -3
Bumblebee: Great +4
+4

Jurassic Park
I: Excellent +5
II: Decent +2
III: Terrible -3
Jurassic World: Bad -1
Jurassic World 2: Very Bad -2
+1

Mad Max: Decent +2
Mad Max 2: Good +3
Mad Max 3: Bad -1
Fury Road: Excellent +5
+9

Star Wars leads by a very large margin

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I think the biggest thing for Star Wars for me is that I still have hope that there is good stuff to come. On top of that even the worst movies at least manage to be at least entertaining so I'm still willing to watch through the entire saga.

The rest just don't have that anymore. Most of them have down points that are so low they have to pretend they don't exist and even when then they still fuck up so there's just more shit to ignore.

Medussa posted...

i don't think it meets your criteria. there are only 3 movies, and two of them are a bit of a reboot (along with all the television) of the first one. there have been rumors of sequels for a while, but i don't think they're ever actually getting made.

Oh my bad I just glanced at a wiki list.
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it was going to be my answer, too, until I actually counted, lol.

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mad max, maybe planet of the apes?

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Are the movies between Planet of the Apes and the reboot trilogy worth watching? I thought most of them stunk.

If Planet of the Apes does count I would say the reboot trilogy is the best trilogy. Loved every movie in it.
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BlackSheep715 posted...

Stargate
Not worth rating

The best sci fi franchise of all time isn't worth rating? Lol

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TendoDRM posted...

The best sci fi franchise of all time isn't worth rating? Lol

If we're talking about series, sure. But it has one actual movie under it's belt murkrow

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Darmik posted...

Are the movies between Planet of the Apes and the reboot trilogy worth watching? I thought most of them stunk.

If Planet of the Apes does count I would say the reboot trilogy is the best trilogy. Loved every movie in it.

ya, some are rough and i forgot about the marky mark shit too... the recent reboot are rad as fuck tho.

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emblem boy posted...

Is star wars sci-fi?

You really think otherwise?

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Star Trek. All 6 of the first gen movies were at least decent flicks.

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I'm actually pissed off

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emblem boy posted...

Is star wars sci-fi?

It isn't, and pretending it is in 20-frikkin'-20 is silly.

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Darmik posted...

That's the one franchise on this list where I haven't watched a single thing. For a long time I thought it was a TV show.

It is, but it started with a movie back in the 90's. T.V series picked up a year or so where the movie left off. The tv series then had a bunch of made-for-tv movies.

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FaultyGourry posted...

Star Trek. All 6 of the first gen movies were at least decent flicks.

My famous relative was in one of those movies (6). I can safely say that they are beyond hit and miss even with that bias.

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It's Space Opera.

Same as something like Captain Harlock. Or any Leji Matsumoto project from that era really.

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I don't remember seeing the Space Opera section in the video store.
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DuranOfForcena posted...

wtf, yes it is

how is it not?

I don't have the time to type up a more detailed response, but the 10-second version:
Star Wars is quintessential fantasy with a futuristic backdrop. Other than aesthetic trappings, it has none of the hallmarks of the science fiction genre.

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CloneTheHero posted...

legend of the galactic heroes is an awesome space opera... but its an 80s anime. i highly recommend tho.

I'm a massive sucker for any Space Opera anime. Harlock, Galaxy Express, some Gundam's etc.

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marthsheretoo posted...

I don't have the time to type up a more detailed response, but the 10-second version:
Star Wars is quintessential fantasy with a futuristic backdrop. Other than aesthetic trappings, it has none of the hallmarks of the science fiction genre.

You're in a video store in the 90s.

Where do you go to rent Star Wars?
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Darmik posted...

You're in a video store in the 90s.

Where do you go to rent Star Wars?

"Fan Favorites"

Sci-Fi was mostly for Trekkie's and obscure 80's cheese like Galaxy of Terror (lol)

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Darmik posted...

I am legit interested in the people who vote Alien or Predator.

Like I like Aliens and Predator more than any single Star Wars movie. But I can watch Attack of the Clones and The Rise of Skywalker and at least get some enjoyment out of it. But both franchises have more than one movie that are outright unwatchable. In one case they're both in the same incredibly awful piece of garbage. I do not have the heart to watch The Predator.

The Predator had like 3 awesome yo momma jokes.

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CloneTheHero posted...

havent heard of these but im not very well versed in anime. worth checking out?

The 1978 version of Space Pirate Captain Harlock is one of my favorite anime. The animation style is outdated but it isn't that long if Space Pirates VS aliens and the Government is your thing.

Galaxy Express is by the same guy. Set in the same universe too actually, but it's more character based with a story about Human's gaining immortality by becoming robots.

I love both. Also check out Space Battleship Yamamoto. Again, same dude, same universe.

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DuranOfForcena posted...

that's just a more wordy way of saying sci-fi

See, this is wrong. Science fiction and fantasy are two genres, though there are similarities.

These are difficult concepts to discuss concretely, so I'll just copy/paste the wiki relating to the definition of science fiction, which itself acknowledges how goddamned difficult it is... but just because it's hard doesn't mean we should be lazy and say sci-fi and fantasy are the same genre with different backdrops.

"Science fiction" is difficult to define precisely, as it includes a wide range of concepts and themes. James Blish wrote: "Wells used the term originally to cover what we would today call "hard" science fiction, in which a conscientious attempt to be faithful to already known facts (as of the date of writing) was the substrate on which the story was to be built, and if the story was also to contain a miracle, it ought at least not to contain a whole arsenal of them."
According to Isaac Asimov, "Science fiction can be defined as that branch of literature which deals with the reaction of human beings to changes in science and technology."Robert A. Heinlein wrote that "A handy short definition of almost all science fiction might read: realistic speculation about possible future events, based solidly on adequate knowledge of the real world, past and present, and on a thorough understanding of the nature and significance of the scientific method."
Tom Shippey compared George Orwell's Coming Up for Air (1939) with Frederick Pohl and C. M. Kornbluth's The Space Merchants (1952), and concluded that the basic building block and distinguishing feature of a science fiction novel is the presence of the novum, a term Darko Suvin adapted from Ernst Bloch and defined as "a discrete piece of information recognizable as not-true, but also as not-unlike-true, not-flatly- (and in the current state of knowledge) impossible."
Lester del Rey wrote, "Even the devoted aficionado or fanhas a hard time trying to explain what science fiction is," and the lack of a "full satisfactory definition" is because "there are no easily delineated limits to science fiction." Author and editor Damon Knight summed up the difficulty, saying "science fiction is what we point to when we say it." Mark C. Glassey described science fiction as U.S. Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart described pornography: "I know it when I see it."

Darmik posted...

You're in a video store in the 90s.

Where do you go to rent Star Wars?

This is a contender for silliest argument of the year.

Granted, only because the year just started and it'll probably be beat by the end. But as of now, it's a contender.

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electricbugs2 posted...

"Fan Favorites"

Sci-Fi was mostly for Trekkie's and obscure 80's cheese like Galaxy of Terror (lol)

What on Earth is the Fan Favorites section

Action
Horror
Comedy
Sci-fi
Drama
Thriller
Family
Television

That was basically all that was needed in the video store. We didn't need shelves dedicated to post-apocalyptic movies or single woman in New York movies.
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marthsheretoo posted...

This is a contender for silliest argument of the year.

Granted, only because the year just started and it'll probably be beat by the end. But as of now, it's a contender.

And yet you didn't answer because you'd know where you'd go if you're 30 or older. <_<
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