Poll of the Day > Woman runs over 14 year old Mexican girl

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Woman runs over 14 year old Mexican girl because the girl is Mexican. This lady also hit a 12 year old boy earlier the same day.

What is wrong with people in this country?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/24/us/iowa-woman-ran-over-girl-hit-black-child-trnd/index.html

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This news is from days ago

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What a deranged woman, she needs to stay in prison for a long time.
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Mead posted...

This news is from days ago

it sure is

https://youtu.be/Wq7sqgqQc3g

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American born Mexican or ... the other type of Mexican?

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JixHedgehog posted...

American born Mexican or ... the other type of Mexican?

Does it matter in this case?

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where was santa? he has run over people before
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Did the children survive? if so that's a hundred times better than what happens in China where you pay less for damages if you make sure your victim is dead afterwards, there are videos of it and of course it's as disgusting as it sounds especially when it features children.

And that's not including the videos where people get run over and no one cares.

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aHappySacka posted...

Did the children survive? if so that's a hundred times better than what happens in China where you pay less for damages if you make sure your victim is dead afterwards, there are videos of it and of course it's as disgusting as it sounds especially when it features children.

And that's not including the videos where people get run over and no one cares.

what the fuck is your point even

this has nothing to do with china

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Mead posted...

what the fuck is your point even

this has nothing to do with china

The woman was paid by the Chinese government to run over children.

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aHappySacka posted...

The woman was paid by the Chinese government to run over children.

are they also paying you to shitpost

or do you just do that for free

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One would hope, with the litany of major offenses she racked up, she'll be in prison for at least 50 years and won't be able to menace society again. But she probably won't....

Mead posted...

what the fuck is your point even

this has nothing to do with china

Plus he was talking about situations where it was initially an accident. While as here, it was straight up attempted murder from the beginning.

This is terrible.

Inb4someoneclaimsthisisntaraceissueandthatthereisntaracistwhitepeopleproblemin trumpsamerica

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blackhrt posted...

it sure is

https://youtu.be/Wq7sqgqQc3g

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

It's like the dude in China a few years back who was holding a woman hostage while a woman cop tried to negotiate with him. He looked away for a second, and the cop jerked the woman out of his grasp then emptied her clip into him.

Moral of the story? Don't break the law in countries where the majority of cops are openly corrupt/abusive/don't give a shit.

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Why does it matter that she's mexican exactly? Would it be less wrong if she was, say, White?

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Dreaming_King posted...

Why does it matter that she's mexican exactly? Would it be less wrong if she was, say, White?

I doubt the racist white druggie would have said "Yeah, I ran over her because she was white."

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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...

I doubt the racist white druggie would have said "Yeah, I ran over her because she was white."

Why does it matter though? Is there any justification for running over a 14 year old? If the lady was racist or not is completely irrelevant.

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Dreaming_King posted...

Why does it matter though? Is there any justification for running over a 14 year old? If the lady was racist or not is completely irrelevant.

The only justification is in this skank's racism & meth-addled mind.

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Dreaming_King posted...

Why does it matter that she's mexican exactly? Would it be less wrong if she was, say, White?

It mattered to the assailant. She wouldn't have hit a white child.

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Dreaming_King posted...

Why does it matter though? Is there any justification for running over a 14 year old? If the lady was racist or not is completely irrelevant.

Running over people intentionally is horrible. Doing it because you dont like their ethnicity is worse.

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Mead posted...

Running over people intentionally is horrible. Doing it because you dont like their ethnicity is worse.

It really isn't though, a crime is a crime. Regardless of why the lady did it she should get the same punishment or else are you saying that the safety of certain groups of people is more important than that of others?

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Dreaming_King posted...

It really isn't though, a crime is a crime. Regardless of why the lady did it she should get the same punishment or else are you saying that the safety of certain groups of people is more important than that of others?

intent does matter in some situations

you just dont get it

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Dreaming_King posted...

It really isn't though, a crime is a crime. Regardless of why the lady did it she should get the same punishment or else are you saying that the safety of certain groups of people is more important than that of others?

Hate crime laws exist for a reason. If a person of one ethnicity commits a crime against someone of another ethnicity because they think that person is an asshole, that's one thing. If they do it specifically BECAUSE of the other person's ethnicity, that's another.

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Murder and manslaughter are basically the same crime since they both result in a dead person

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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...

Hate crime laws exist for a reason. If a person of one ethnicity commits a crime against someone of another ethnicity because they think that person is an asshole, that's one thing. If they do it specifically BECAUSE of the other person's ethnicity, that's another.

What youve said is total and utter bullshit. In both cases the attacker hates the victim, just what exactly about the victim they hate is different.

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There's always going to be that fringe 0.01-percenter loons that succeed in doing terrible things. The real culprit is the reporters that run with the stories.

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aDirtyShisno posted...

What youve said is total and utter bullshit. In both cases the attacker hates the victim, just what exactly about the victim they hate is different.

Which is, as I said, why hate crime laws exist. This is not a difficult concept.

Are you really Dreaming_King and forgot to switch accounts?

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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...

Hate crime laws exist for a reason. If a person of one ethnicity commits a crime against someone of another ethnicity because they think that person is an asshole, that's one thing. If they do it specifically BECAUSE of the other person's ethnicity, that's another.

You keep repeating yourself but never answer my orginal question, WHY is it worse, WHY is it "another thing", WHY should the legal system/society say that when certain groups of people are hurt it matters more than when others are?

You know they tried passing a hate crimes law in my state this last year and thankfully it was shot down, justice should be blind and not favor some groups over others.

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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

It's like the dude in China a few years back who was holding a woman hostage while a woman cop tried to negotiate with him. He looked away for a second, and the cop jerked the woman out of his grasp then emptied her clip into him.

Moral of the story? Don't break the law in countries where the majority of cops are openly corrupt/abusive/don't give a shit.

i have no problem with someone getting killed who took a hostage
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...

Which is, as I said, why hate crime laws exist. This is not a difficult concept.

Are you really Dreaming_King and forgot to switch accounts?

Gotcha. So youre a troll. You cant give an argument without simply regurgitating the exact same thing and then call me an alt. Nice try. Go play somewhere else.

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aDirtyShisno posted...

In both cases the attacker hates the victim

Not every murder involves hate, in fact, most serial killers feel nothing for their victims (usually due to some form of mental illness) but a person that hates and kills (insert any race) because of the ignorant notion that they are a threat to their race, is a worse kind of monster for not only killing based on race but in all likelihood perpetuating the ignorant notions which create unneeded strife in our society.

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Dreaming_King posted...

You keep repeating yourself but never answer my orginal question, WHY is it worse, WHY is it "another thing", WHY should the legal system/society say that when certain groups of people are hurt it matters more than when others are?

You know they tried passing a hate crimes law in my state this last year and thankfully it was shot down, justice should be blind and not favor some groups over others.

If you really don't see how race relations have become increasingly polarized (especially in the U.S.), and can't grasp why hate crime laws are needed or passed, there's nothing I can say to make you understand that, but what the hell, I'll try.

The reason hate crime laws exist is to try and dissuade overt actions against classes of people who have traditionally been treated as less than human. The argument is that crimes which invoke stereotypes or prejudices about that class deserve harsher punishment because those views are used to justify the crime committed by the offender, since the victim is 'other'.

Also, if justice was blind, you wouldn't have rich white people getting away with crimes that poor blacks do twenty years for. Or a drunk driver who kills someone would be charged with murder instead of death by vehicle.

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Imagine actually arguing that harming people based on their skin color should not be seen as its own terrible thing simply because harming people in general is bad.

the mental gymnastics in this day and age are impressive af

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Not every murder involves hate, in fact, most serial killers feel nothing for their victims (usually due to some form of mental illness) but a person that hates and kills (insert any race) because of the ignorant notion that they are a threat to their race, is a worse kind of monster for not only killing based on race but in all likelihood perpetuating the ignorant notions which create unneeded strife in our society.

Nobody goes out to murder on a whim. There is always an underlying reason behind it. I hate lawers/cops/druggies/dog-owners-who-dont-clean-up-after-their-pets/white people should all be treated the same. There shouldnt be one specific class that gets treated as more important than any other class. This is literally how you set up classism and racism in everyday society. Skin color becomes more important than anything else, which is inherently racist.

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JixHedgehog posted...

American born Mexican or ... the other type of Mexican?

@JixHedgehog

Does it matter here?

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aDirtyShisno posted...

Nobody goes out to murder on a whim.

Serial killers do.

aDirtyShisno posted...

There is always an underlying reason behind it.

Not all murders are hatred based.

aDirtyShisno posted...

This is literally how you set up classism and racism in everyday society.

Wow. Ok, having hate crime laws is not setting up classism and racism.

aDirtyShisno posted...

Skin color becomes more important than anything else, which is inherently racist.

No, not harming anyone is more important. Bear in mind, simply punching someone once is assault but yelling racial slurs while doing is a larger crime, why? Because being an assaulter is bad but assaulting only because of skin color is worse.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Because being an assaulter is bad but assaulting only because of skin color is worse.

Its not. Being assaulted for any reason is wrong. It absolutely doesnt matter why since you shouldnt be assaulted. But youre punishing people based on the why and not based just on the actual assault itself, leading to different classes where one why is more important than another.

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Because Trump tells his base all Hispanics are illegal immigrants and all Muslims are evil terrorists.

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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...

The reason hate crime laws exist is to try and dissuade overt actions against classes of people who have traditionally been treated as less than human. The argument is that crimes which invoke stereotypes or prejudices about that class deserve harsher punishment because those views are used to justify the crime committed by the offender, since the victim is 'other'.

Wow you finally came up with an argument, color me surprised. It isn't a very good one but still.

So firstly it has been shown time and again that stiffer legal punishments don't actually dissuade the vast majority of criminals and even if we pretend they did for a second it would be near impossible in the vast majority of cases to even prove that particular bias existed at trial. Like is every crime against a black/gay/transgender person a hate crime? How could anyone prove there was a racial/homophobic/transphobic motive involved unless the suspect literally says "yeah I only did this because fuck those people" which isn't going to happen often regardless of if those are their true feelings how could a judge reasonably apply the law, by which I mean potentially adding several years to the suspects sentence.

Secondly I love how you openly say these laws exist to "protect" certain groups of people, effectively saying it's less important if anyone not in these groups (like White men) are the victims of crime, it's textbook racism and you don't even realize it. Another racist implication is that just because someone appears to be part of a given group they are. If a black guy moved to the States from say South Africa and was beat up here would his assailant still deserve this "retroactive retribution" in the form of a stiffer punishment just because the guy is black? Are we going to have a tier list of the groups who were treated the worst in history (according to who?) in every court house with mathematical formula for how much the court should care about them?

Thirdly another thing you've brought up ad nauseam is "we have hate crime laws for a reason...". I'll clue you in on what that reason is, it has nothing to do with "Justice" and everything to do with politicians who want to pass feel good laws to get easy votes from gullible chumps and so they can say they give a damn about certain groups of people. Because here's the thing, in every criminal court I've ever heard of the Judge has the authority to increase or decrease the sentence they give someone based on something called mitigating or aggravating circumstances. That is to say, even in a state like mine without hate crime laws if someone obviously did something for a racist or whatever reason and showed no remorse they could still give them a harsher sentence. Hate crime laws are entirely unnecessary from any point of view.

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I don't always get stabbed, but when I do, I hope the stabber isn't racist.

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That is so sad and uncomfortable, I cant believe how people are

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