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StealthRock 12/20/19 11:49:01 PM #1: |
Looking for an honest response. Why do you choose to not believe or follow christianity?
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008Zulu 12/20/19 11:50:28 PM #2: |
Covering up the rampant child abuse.
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Tenlaar 12/20/19 11:54:59 PM #3: |
The religious parts.
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Wewillrocku 12/20/19 11:56:44 PM #4: |
literally everything about it. start with the cross, which is a hate symbol because people died on it.
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OrdonGoatCheese 12/20/19 11:57:14 PM #5: |
I didn't believe in it when I was growing up, so I didn't continue with it once I had the choice not to.
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Duncanwii 12/20/19 11:57:48 PM #6: |
God murdered innocent children in order to make the Pharaoh let the Jews go. Even though the Pharaoh already wanted to let the Jews go but God hardened his heart so he wouldn't.
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Tenlaar 12/20/19 11:58:23 PM #7: |
I guess I can be more specific. When I say "the religious parts" I mean "the parts that are based on living your life as if magic is real."
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Yadoken 12/21/19 12:00:46 AM #8: |
The worst part of it is how absurdly unbelievable a lot of it is to the point where over time people will just stop believing in it, and instead turn their attention to narcissism and fake outrage over every single thing anyone does or says and ultimately society will become a real ****hole.
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USSLiberty 12/21/19 12:02:14 AM #10: |
Im a Christian.
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CableZL 12/21/19 12:02:15 AM #11: |
Logically, a lot of it just doesn't make sense.
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IronChef_Kirby 12/21/19 12:03:18 AM #12: |
Oh crap, my previous post had an enormous image that I did not expect to get embedded >_> My bad.
Anyway, the OP poses two separate questions. I don't follow Christianity because I don't believe it has met its burden of proof. I'm not really interested in the supposed nature of God because until his followers can give sufficient evidence for his existence, talking about his nature is about as meaningful as talking about the nature of a popular fiction character. As for why I dislike Christianity, here is a sampling: https://imgur. com/mpQA0 --- https://imgur.com/faC30Oe 3DS FC: 1375 7308 4517 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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8-bit_Biceps 12/21/19 12:03:52 AM #13: |
There are too many ridiculous parts to believe. Adam and Eve...Noah's Ark fitting all the animals...lol. Contradictions, such as how does a so called all loving god exist? Not enough imagination to have a universe with free will AND say, no such thing as torture or getting burned alive? Kind of a silly concept. Yeah I think we made up the idea of 'god' and it seems pretty clear that whoever wrote the Bible wasn't god and didn't know much about the earth (*points back to Noah's Ark and the clear misunderstanding of how many organisms are on the planet*).
There are many other religions. I don't have the time to learn about them. Why prioritize Christianity over them? Because I live in a place with other Christians? Okay, perhaps that is a reason to understand Christianity. And that's why I already do understand it. And that's how I've come to dismiss it..with ease. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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boxington 12/21/19 12:04:04 AM #14: |
the idea that we must "atone for our sins" so that we don't suffer for the rest of eternity
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HylianFox 12/21/19 12:05:59 AM #15: |
the whole "anybody who isn't us is pure evil and will be tortured for eternity" thing
although that applies to plenty of religions, frankly --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt ... Copied to Clipboard!
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USSLiberty 12/21/19 12:06:37 AM #16: |
boxington posted...
the idea that we must "atone for our sins" so that we don't suffer for the rest of eternity Uh, thats not the point of Christianity. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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8-bit_Biceps 12/21/19 12:08:45 AM #17: |
Also, I do not like that dogmatic religions attempt to answer big questions that we can't have the answer to. That is, they effectively smother any meaningful conversation we can have about the origins of the universe before they have a chance to gain momentum in the public sphere. When someone assumes they have the answer to something, then where is the incentive to question that supposed correct answer going to come from? Unless someone such as myself questions these people, they're not going to have many moments when they decide to question these things.
I also believe it's possible that they might naturally feel a sense of regret or guilt about questioning the god they believe in, and will feel judged by this imaginative being, for betraying him. It is not a good system, or idea. Religion needs to go. It's nice to learn ABOUT religion, but not to subject young children to these ideas and preach them as if they're gospel. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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boxington 12/21/19 12:10:13 AM #18: |
I didn't say it was, but it's a part of the belief system; that you're basically born in sin, and if you don't give yourself over to Jesus, as your savior, then God won't/can't accept you into his kingdom, and you're basically screwed
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HylianFox 12/21/19 12:10:19 AM #19: |
USSLiberty posted...
Uh, thats not the point of Christianity. that's the kicker though the notion that Jesus died for our sins and essentially giving us (or more specifically, Christians) a blank check to be total shitheads like, they harp on how "being good" isn't enough to get into Heaven, accepting Jesus is all that matters by that logic, if you accept Jesus you can just do whatever and get away with it while good people who didn't accept Jesus roast in Hell --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt ... Copied to Clipboard!
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8-bit_Biceps 12/21/19 12:11:19 AM #20: |
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linid0t 12/21/19 12:12:42 AM #21: |
Whats there to like?
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USSLiberty 12/21/19 12:13:57 AM #22: |
boxington posted...
I didn't say it was, but it's a part of the belief system; that you're basically born in sin, and if you don't give yourself over to Jesus, as your savior, then God won't/can't accept you into his kingdom, and you're basically screwed Youre free to believe what you want, but Jesus is based as fuck: https://youtu.be/bfiM9K48Dzg https://youtu.be/hxCcvCZkaJc https://youtu.be/kLCSVjHKQjk --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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boxington 12/21/19 12:16:25 AM #23: |
I'm not criticizing Jesus, I just don't think my worldview and Christianity align
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ScazarMeltex 12/21/19 12:17:33 AM #24: |
USSLiberty posted...
Youre free to believe what you want, but Jesus is based as fuck:And yet very little of modern christianity has anything to do with Jesus. For fucks sake 81% of the evangelical community voted for Donald Trump. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vigorm0rtis 12/21/19 12:17:35 AM #25: |
From a literary point of view, I like the Bible. I also like the notion that we go on, in one fashion or another.
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HylianFox 12/21/19 12:17:39 AM #26: |
Call me crazy, but I'd like to think that God isn't so petty as to torture people for eternity simply because they were born in the wrong place and time
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USSLiberty 12/21/19 12:17:52 AM #27: |
boxington posted...
I'm not criticizing Jesus, I just don't think my worldview and Christianity align Fair enough. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wewillrocku 12/21/19 12:18:16 AM #28: |
we've come a long way since then
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Duncanwii 12/21/19 12:26:53 AM #29: |
HylianFox posted...
Call me crazy, but I'd like to think that God isn't so petty as to torture people for eternity simply because they were born in the wrong place and timeGod is extremely petty and narcissistic. Read the bible and you'll see countless times he maims or kills people for the smallest of infractions. --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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De Evolution 12/21/19 12:27:20 AM #30: |
The made up parts
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linid0t 12/21/19 12:30:55 AM #31: |
HylianFox posted...
Call me crazy, but I'd like to think that God isn't so petty as to torture people for eternity simply because they were born in the wrong place and time Well unfortunately I have some very bad news for you ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sportsaholic 12/21/19 12:37:30 AM #32: |
USSLiberty posted...
Im a Christian. This HylianFox posted... Call me crazy, but I'd like to think that God isn't so petty as to torture people for eternity simply because they were born in the wrong place and time I believe if you were to study that topic more, that you would have a different perspective. --- Bills, Sabres, Bison, UB Bulls + Buffalo Braves/SD/LA Clippers + NY Yankees Buffalo -> LA -> Honolulu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 12/21/19 12:39:48 AM #33: |
StealthRock posted...
Why do you choose to not believe or follow christianity?This is a very different question from the OP. I don't believe or follow it simply because I haven't seen any good reason to. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wewillrocku 12/21/19 12:42:50 AM #34: |
linid0t posted...
Well unfortunately I have some very bad news for you --- The american prison system is a sorry mess but giving them game consoles isn't going to solve anything. Zurriah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Extreme_light 12/21/19 12:45:13 AM #35: |
It's just seem like a bunch of grand tales stem together to build on a sense of morality and community. You expect me to believe a man turn water into wine, parted the sea, built an ark for two of every animal, that entire cities were destroyed because of unchecked lust and sins, that a man walked on water, a man died and came back, that someone supposedly saw the end of time?
I am expected to believe in meanings that could be interpreted differently? Why are there three religions sharing a similar process? Why do a majority of them detail events that happened or things that are like the Great Flood or some after-life? Why wouldnt the Christian God struck down the false idols of another religion? Why allow them to proper if you want people to find you, somehow? But my key breakaway for me was homosexuality. I was raised to believe that this was morally wrong, and a sin deserving of hell. But why? I'm a good person, not perfect but this thing I can't control condemned me already? Yeah bullshit. Especially when there are other "restrictions" that we don't follow today, they LOVE to apply it to gays to disguise bigotry. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tainted_emerald 12/21/19 12:46:24 AM #36: |
Sportsaholic posted...
So you're saying that a Buddhist monk born in 100 b.c. who never encountered Christianity but led an honest life doing no ham to anyone and actively helping people isn't doomed to an eternity in Hell? Or a random 16 year old born in 10,000 b.c. who just lived with his family/tribe? Where's their salvation? --- "Evil is what you make of it. Bind it to a higher purpose, and you will have altered its nature." - Gerald Tarrant ... Copied to Clipboard!
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USSLiberty 12/21/19 12:46:37 AM #37: |
On a related note, former football player, Larry Johnson, has been exposing the satanic agenda of the NFL. He was just on Sam Tripolis podcast. Im listening to to it now.
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Wewillrocku 12/21/19 12:47:15 AM #38: |
never heard of him. what is sam tripoli's gimmick?
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Extreme_light 12/21/19 12:47:24 AM #39: |
But yeah I seen no need for cause to truly follow Christianity. As much as I would like to believe that there is a guiding force, it has not been kind to me if it exists.
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USSLiberty 12/21/19 12:49:57 AM #40: |
Wewillrocku posted...
never heard of him. what is sam tripoli's gimmick? Hes not my favorite podcaster, but hes ok. His podcast is called tinfoil hat, so you get the idea. But he does occasionally talk about some interesting things and is able to get good guests like Larry Johnson. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 12/21/19 12:52:55 AM #41: |
There's not too much I dislike about Christianity, as it is outlined in the bible. Mostly just the antigay part, and the absolute respect to parents when some parents are awful. There is plenty I find unbelievable though; the long lives of the descendants of Cain, The Ark, Adam and Eve and Eden, literally talking to a magic being, that sort of thing.
There's far more to the culture of Christians, as I know them in my communities and country, that I dislike. Y'all know the Ghandi quote. --- formerly evening formerly guide https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mew4ever 12/21/19 12:53:22 AM #42: |
The whole all you need to do is accept and believe in Jesus as the savior thing seems kinda lame to me. Like you can kill rape and steal but if you in your heart of hearts accept Jesus at the end of the day you can still go to heaven?
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Wewillrocku 12/21/19 12:54:04 AM #43: |
USSLiberty posted...
Hes not my favorite podcaster, but hes ok. His podcast is called tinfoil hat, so you get the idea. But he does occasionally talk about some interesting things and is able to get good guests like Larry Johnson.has sam tripoli ever been on joe rogan? lol --- The american prison system is a sorry mess but giving them game consoles isn't going to solve anything. Zurriah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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USSLiberty 12/21/19 1:00:11 AM #44: |
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Yes. I forgot to mention that hes also a stand up comedian, so hes friends with Rogan too. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fuparulez 12/21/19 1:00:26 AM #45: |
From my observations as a Presbyterian Christian, most people's qualms are with Catholicism. Most Christians ARE NOT Catholics, and it was five hundred years ago that the rational portion of the Christian faith left the Catholic church behind. Many reformed denomination churches even accept same sex marriages.
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HylianFox 12/21/19 1:00:49 AM #46: |
Sportsaholic posted...
I believe if you were to study that topic more, that you would have a different perspective.what makes you think I haven't? --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Extreme_light 12/21/19 1:01:27 AM #47: |
Fuparulez posted...
From my observations as a Presbyterian Christian, most people's qualms are with Catholicism. Most Christians ARE NOT Catholics, and it was five hundred years ago that the rational portion of the Christian faith left the Catholic church behind. Many reformed denomination churches even accept same sex marriages.Wait till you hear about black churches --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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USSLiberty 12/21/19 1:05:40 AM #48: |
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ultimate reaver 12/21/19 1:46:14 AM #49: |
Wide scale introduction of Christian morality into politics
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8-bit_Biceps 12/21/19 2:15:48 AM #50: |
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8-bit_Biceps posted... Also, I do not like that dogmatic religions attempt to answer big questions that we can't have the answer to. That is, they effectively smother any meaningful conversation we can have about the origins of the universe before they have a chance to gain momentum in the public sphere. When someone assumes they have the answer to something, then where is the incentive to question that supposed correct answer going to come from? Unless someone such as myself questions these people, they're not going to have many moments when they decide to question these things. imaginary* being ... Copied to Clipboard!
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humptyrump 12/21/19 2:16:35 AM #51: |
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