Current Events > "Other countries that banned guns don't have mass shooting problems"

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TheMikh posted...

we can argue all day about why guns should or shouldn't be banned

but at the end of the day, attempting to enforce a ban on guns is asking for large-scale civil unrest

Especially when you factor in hunters because idiots don't realize they exist and enjoy what they do

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coh posted...

How is that dumb? People who want to kill will find ways to kill even if guns ceased to exist

Probably because it would be a lot less easy for them to do so. Like for real. Is this a Rocket Science or what??

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HellRatUFO posted...

Does Mexico, El Salvador, and Venezuela not exist with their gun violence lol.

Oof

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StealthRock posted...

coh posted...

How is that dumb? People who want to kill will find ways to kill even if guns ceased to exist

Probably because it would be a lot less easy for them to do so. Like for real. Is this a Rocket Science or what??

You underestimate the creativity of sociopaths that are bent on mass murder without using a gun. One arsonist in Japan managed to kill 33 people this year at an animation studio. Let's not forget Timothy McVeigh either who in '95 used fertilizer to kill 168 people in OK City and injured hundreds more.
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inloveanddeath0 posted...

Especially when you factor in hunters because idiots don't realize they exist and enjoy what they do

There's a case to be made that hunting is also more economical in some parts, as the cost of a bullet can feed a family for days, perhaps weeks depending on the game. This could make all the difference in more remote and/or poverty-stricken areas. These factors are seldom considered by policymakers, surrounded by urban conveniences and comparatively higher paying jobs.

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TheMikh posted...

There's a case to be made that hunting is also more economical in some parts, as the cost of a bullet can feed a family for days, perhaps weeks depending on the game. This could make all the difference in more remote and/or poverty-stricken areas. These factors are seldom considered by policymakers, surrounded by urban conveniences and comparatively higher paying jobs.

Well yes I meant to include that too. I'm from an area that is big on hunting deer, rabbit and bear

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Paragon21XX posted...

You underestimate the creativity of sociopaths that are bent on mass murder without using a gun. One arsonist in Japan managed to kill 33 people this year at an animation studio. Let's not forget Timothy McVeigh either who in '95 used fertilizer to kill 168 people in OK City and injured hundreds more.

Doesnt change the fact that with a gun its easier.

A few creative psychpaths doesnt mean anything

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StealthRock posted...

Doesnt change the fact that with a gun its easier.

Its also easier for a sociopath to murder a lot of people if that sociopath gets into power and is able to persuade the people to disarm themselves.
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USSLiberty posted...

Its also easier for a sociopath to murder a lot of people if that sociopath gets into power and is able to persuade the people to disarm themselves.

It's objectively much faster for a murderer to pick up a gun and fire into a crowd.

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MrMallard posted...

It's objectively much faster for a murderer to pick up a gun and fire into a crowd.

Thats for sociopaths who lack vision.
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Other countries do a lot of stuff better than america, like healthcare.

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Re: invade America.
I mean if we ever get invaded, we've passed the point if needing guns to defend.

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USSLiberty posted...

Its also easier for a sociopath to murder a lot of people if that sociopath gets into power and is able to persuade the people to disarm themselves.

Not as easy as going to buy a gun

Try again

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StealthRock posted...

Not as easy as going to buy a gun

Try again

But far more impactful.
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USSLiberty posted...

But far more impactful.

Again, not as easy nor practical

Im sure it would be easier for them to kill of they spent years gaining rank in the military so that they could one day earn the right to control the nuke buttons too.

But most of them are not going to go through all that trouble.

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OfDustandBone posted...

Take away guns, and people will use knives.

If you still have huge shooting issues when people have all moved onto knives, you probably have bigger concerns to deal with.

Like the portal to Ungandmorth that opened up and unleashed all the Guntnarfs into Lindentonk City on Bupsyfoop Day.

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other countries also dont have psyop agenda pushing

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Wewillrocku posted...

japan is safe and has strict laws on this

Do you live in japan?

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the counter is that you're indoctrinated to live in fear.

they're just less obvious about it than countries like china for instance.

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DocDelicious posted...

I don't think guns should be banned because, in the long term, it's the one thing that makes America untouchable.

You cannot invade America without having to fight almost every citizen in the country, in addition to the military.

I'd think the trillions of dollars spent to fund the US military would at least be useful for one fucking thing.

SH_expert44 posted...

How would a gun ban in america work? When every other country "banned guns", what was the gun culture like? How easy do you think it would be to disarm 500 Million+ guns from citizens? Especially in more dangerous areas.

Even if you didn't disarm everybody, removing the possibility of buying a gun easily at a store nearby would probably prevent a lot of impulsive serial killing.

If you couldn't own a gun without a permit, and somebody behaved dangerously and was called the cops on and they found his gun while searching, they could take it away.

Finally, taking action now would help making the country free of guns over time. If this had been done 20 years ago there would be much less guns in circulation today as well as less shootings. Same in 20 years if action is take now...

Due to its geographic location, large scale invasion of the US has never ever happened and the people pretending there's a realistic chance of it happening are looney tunes, and it's more that they want to fellate themselves with their guns honestly

And no, Pancho Villa trespassing with like three people or the Canadians buring the White House isn't close to a large, sustainable invasion.

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Cartwheel_Kick posted... Finally, taking action now would help making the country free of guns over time. If this had been done 20 years ago there would be much less guns in circulation today as well as less shootings. Same in 20 years if action is taken now...

any action on guns wont mean much of anything unless the core problems are tackled. the US is much more violent than any other first world country and im not talking gun violence either. it stands highly likely if you were to go after guns in a major way criminals wont give up anything. the point of wearing them down over time also holds much less water now that the internet is a thing. 3d printing, parts kits, 80% receivers ect. not to mention the black market that would be expanded on on 400-500million firearms already in circulation.

in the end it would mean citizens have less options while criminals still largely hold theirs. there might be some decline, but it wont be as much as you think and any lives potentially saved would most likely be taken up by those who now hold more power over others and are more free to commit more crimes especially when the country is already under policed and especially by a police force that has no legal right to save your ass.

what percent of gun violence happens with legally owned guns?

muchdran posted...

America has alot of rural areas, if something happened the response time from the police would take a while. So literally dont defend myself, family and pets?

As someone who lives in a rural area, i agree... but i imagine there's at least a percentage of users on here who live in sheltered/gated communities and lack the ability to comprehend that someone might actually need small arms for protection.

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Oldin posted...

Do you live in japan?

Japan is also practically an ethnostate. Is that what liberals want for America?
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