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Webmaster4531 12/20/19 4:03:06 PM #52:	HairyThotter posted... CGP Grey is great! I really liked his video on split brain syndrome. But anyway... your post comes off as "if you're not with us you're against us", which I already mentioned. Genuinely curious, what are your issues with centrists/independents? Watch the video. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:931852284] in Joe Rogan ... [t:78267972]...</cite> <quote>HairyThotter posted... </cite> <quote>CGP Grey is great! I really liked his video on split brain syndrome. But anyway... your post comes off as "if you're not with us you're against us", which I already mentioned. Genuinely curious, what are your issues with centrists/independents?</quote>Watch the video. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HairyThotter 12/20/19 4:12:27 PM #53:	Webmaster4531 posted... Watch the video. I've seen it before, but I just watched it again... as far as I understood it... a two party system doesn't fairly represent the populace, and gerrymandering makes the situation worse. We could add more candidates for people to vote for (rather than only two per election) but it'll inevitably lead back to the situation we're in now. ...so that makes holding a view somewhere in the middle bad? Again, not poking fun... but not understanding. --- "With cheese in either hand, anything is possible" <cite>HairyThotter posted [p:931852673] in Joe Rogan ... [t:78267972]...</cite> <quote>Webmaster4531 posted... </cite> <quote>Watch the video.</quote> I've seen it before, but I just watched it again... as far as I understood it... a two party system doesn't fairly represent the populace, and gerrymandering makes the situation worse. We could add more candidates for people to vote for (rather than only two per election) but it'll inevitably lead back to the situation we're in now. ...so that makes holding a view somewhere in the middle bad? Again, not poking fun... but not understanding. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 12/20/19 4:19:19 PM #54:	HairyThotter posted... I've seen it before, but I just watched it again... as far as I understood it... a two party system doesn't fairly represent the populace, and gerrymandering makes the situation worse. We could add more candidates for people to vote for (rather than only two per election) but it'll inevitably lead back to the situation we're in now. ...so that makes holding a view somewhere in the middle bad? Again, not poking fun... but not understanding. Constantly repeating both sides are bad is pointless. Vote for candidates who want to change the system with the system like Bernie Sander's campaign finance reform. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:931852938] in Joe Rogan ... [t:78267972]...</cite> <quote>HairyThotter posted... </cite> <quote>I've seen it before, but I just watched it again... as far as I understood it... a two party system doesn't fairly represent the populace, and gerrymandering makes the situation worse. We could add more candidates for people to vote for (rather than only two per election) but it'll inevitably lead back to the situation we're in now. ...so that makes holding a view somewhere in the middle bad? Again, not poking fun... but not understanding.</quote>Constantly repeating both sides are bad is pointless. Vote for candidates who want to change the system with the system like Bernie Sander's campaign finance reform. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 12/20/19 4:33:21 PM #55:	Why should I, a black person, deal with someone who politically supports an objective white supremacist? This is like, peak white privilege on display. --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:931853459] in Joe Rogan ... [t:78267972]...</cite> <quote>Why should I, a black person, deal with someone who politically supports an objective white supremacist? This is like, peak white privilege on display. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HairyThotter 12/20/19 4:42:43 PM #56:	Webmaster4531 posted... Constantly repeating both sides are bad is pointless. Vote for candidates who want to change the system with the system like Bernie Sander's campaign finance reform. Hm... sounds like I wasn't clear or was misunderstood. When I said "vocal minority on each side", I'm talking about the extreme ends of either side, not the entirety of either side, so again, if it came off as "both sides are bad, wholesale" that wasn't my intention. Point being, the extreme ends of either side don't account for (or completely ignore) the fact that there are people who hold views that fall on both sides of the aisle, or centrists... and that's not because those centrists think both sides of the aisle are bad... it's because nothing in life is as clear-cut as we'd like it to be. And to your point about Bernie, he was my guy in 2016 before... whatever it is that happened to him, happened. Then I became disillusioned and didn't vote at all. The video you posted even mentions this, right around the five minute mark... "The better a third party candidate does, the more it hurts that third party candidates own voters, by guaranteeing a loss for the party they agree with, and a win for the party they most disagree with." This is getting too long, so alls I'm saying is, I definitely don't have all the answers, or any that may be even closely to correct.... but when the vocal extremes tell me "I'm part of the problem" for not being on either one of their teams (not saying you're on either of those extremes, either) it only stands to hurt them, and at worst, may push otherwise innocent people to those extremes where they'll become just as entrenched and closed off to alternative views. Back to your original point that "centrists are annoying because they never listen".... on that I'll disagree. I'm a centrist because when I do listen, especially these days, all I hear is the screeching of each extreme end. It's tough to cut through that noise... but I'm trying. --- "With cheese in either hand, anything is possible" <cite>HairyThotter posted [p:931853842] in Joe Rogan ... [t:78267972]...</cite> <quote>Webmaster4531 posted... </cite> <quote>Constantly repeating both sides are bad is pointless. Vote for candidates who want to change the system with the system like Bernie Sander's campaign finance reform.</quote> Hm... sounds like I wasn't clear or was misunderstood. When I said "vocal minority on each side", I'm talking about the extreme ends of either side, not the entirety of either side, so again, if it came off as "both sides are bad, wholesale" that wasn't my intention. Point being, the extreme ends of either side don't account for (or completely ignore) the fact that there are people who hold views that fall on both sides of the aisle, or centrists... and that's not because those centrists think both sides of the aisle are bad... it's because nothing in life is as clear-cut as we'd like it to be. And to your point about Bernie, he was my guy in 2016 before... whatever it is that happened to him, happened. Then I became disillusioned and didn't vote at all. The video you posted even mentions this, right around the five minute mark... "The better a third party candidate does, the more it hurts that third party candidates own voters, by guaranteeing a loss for the party they agree with, and a win for the party they most disagree with." This is getting too long, so alls I'm saying is, I definitely don't have all the answers, or any that may be even closely to correct.... but when the vocal extremes tell me "I'm part of the problem" for not being on either one of their teams (not saying you're on either of those extremes, either) it only stands to hurt them, and at worst, may push otherwise innocent people to those extremes where they'll become just as entrenched and closed off to alternative views. Back to your original point that "centrists are annoying because they never listen".... on that I'll disagree. I'm a centrist because when I do listen, especially these days, all I hear is the screeching of each extreme end. It's tough to cut through that noise... but I'm trying. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frogles 12/20/19 4:45:25 PM #57:	FrisbeeDude posted... Why should I, a black person, deal with someone who politically supports an objective white supremacist? This is like, peak white privilege on display. ? who is the objective white supremacist? --- Ahem...there's SAND on my boots! -Kefka <cite>Frogles posted [p:931853961] in Joe Rogan ... [t:78267972]...</cite> <quote>FrisbeeDude posted... </cite> <quote>Why should I, a black person, deal with someone who politically supports an objective white supremacist? This is like, peak white privilege on display.</quote>? who is the objective white supremacist? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 12/20/19 4:52:56 PM #58:	Frogles posted... ? who is the objective white supremacist? Donald Trump --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:931854269] in Joe Rogan ... [t:78267972]...</cite> <quote>Frogles posted... </cite> <quote>? who is the objective white supremacist?</quote> Donald Trump </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 12/20/19 4:56:21 PM #59:	HairyThotter posted... "The better a third party candidate does, the more it hurts that third party candidates own voters, by guaranteeing a loss for the party they agree with, and a win for the party they most disagree with." Bernie didn't run as a third party candidate. He threw his support behind Hillary Clinton even though she, Debbie Schultz, and the DNC underhandedly used there super delegate vote to dissuade voting for Bernie. Bernie supporters would understandably be unenthusiastic for Hillary. I still voted for her even though I'm not in a swing state. HairyThotter posted... I'm a centrist because when I do listen, especially these days, all I hear is the screeching of each extreme end. Be specific. That will prove if you're actually paying attention. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:931854403] in Joe Rogan ... [t:78267972]...</cite> <quote>HairyThotter posted... </cite> <quote>"The better a third party candidate does, the more it hurts that third party candidates own voters, by guaranteeing a loss for the party they agree with, and a win for the party they most disagree with."</quote>Bernie didn't run as a third party candidate. He threw his support behind Hillary Clinton even though she, Debbie Schultz, and the DNC underhandedly used there super delegate vote to dissuade voting for Bernie. Bernie supporters would understandably be unenthusiastic for Hillary. I still voted for her even though I'm not in a swing state. HairyThotter posted... </cite> <quote>I'm a centrist because when I do listen, especially these days, all I hear is the screeching of each extreme end.</quote>Be specific. That will prove if you're actually paying attention. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 12/20/19 5:10:04 PM #60:	Frogles posted... ? who is the objective white supremacist? Also Stephen Miller. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:931854950] in Joe Rogan ... [t:78267972]...</cite> <quote>Frogles posted... </cite> <quote>? who is the objective white supremacist?</quote>Also Stephen Miller. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ethosian 12/20/19 5:14:34 PM #61:	Frogles posted... ? who is the objective white supremacist? Impeached President Trump <cite>Ethosian posted [p:931855123] in Joe Rogan ... [t:78267972]...</cite> <quote>Frogles posted... </cite> <quote>? who is the objective white supremacist?</quote>Impeached President Trump </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HairyThotter 12/20/19 5:14:46 PM #62:	Webmaster4531 posted... Bernie didn't run as a third party candidate. He threw his support behind Hillary Clinton even though she, Debbie Schultz, and the DNC underhandedly used there super delegate vote to dissuade voting for Bernie. Nah you're right, I caught that after I posted... but the way he was treated, kinda made him feel like a third party candidate, at least to me. Webmaster4531 posted... Be specific. That will prove if you're actually paying attention. Even that.. it's like... who do you prefer I pay attention to? What am I to prove? I post about it all the time... if you wanna rile up a republican, talk about impeachment/gun rights being revoked... if you wanna rile up a democrat, talk about 'the wall' or immigration. Meanwhile, people still dying from addiction, the outrageous price of health care, the fact that there aren't enough teachers (and that they're under paid), while the cost of school is getting higher and higher and wages remain stagnant. Tech conglomerates ride roughshod with our personal data and get a slap on the wrist when they inevitably leak our personal data and exploit us... no punishment what so ever. And all we're told is "it may not be the best system, but it's better than any other"... yeah, but it's getting worse. And I'm not over here saying "tear it all down! Anarchy in the US!" but this system doesn't work for enough people, only those with enough ca$h. What about you...? What do you do to prove you're paying attention? --- "With cheese in either hand, anything is possible" <cite>HairyThotter posted [p:931855134] in Joe Rogan ... [t:78267972]...</cite> <quote>Webmaster4531 posted... </cite> <quote>Bernie didn't run as a third party candidate. He threw his support behind Hillary Clinton even though she, Debbie Schultz, and the DNC underhandedly used there super delegate vote to dissuade voting for Bernie.</quote> Nah you're right, I caught that after I posted... but the way he was treated, kinda made him feel like a third party candidate, at least to me. Webmaster4531 posted... </cite> <quote>Be specific. That will prove if you're actually paying attention.</quote> Even that.. it's like... who do you prefer I pay attention to? What am I to prove? I post about it all the time... if you wanna rile up a republican, talk about impeachment/gun rights being revoked... if you wanna rile up a democrat, talk about 'the wall' or immigration. Meanwhile, people still dying from addiction, the outrageous price of health care, the fact that there aren't enough teachers (and that they're under paid), while the cost of school is getting higher and higher and wages remain stagnant. Tech conglomerates ride roughshod with our personal data and get a slap on the wrist when they inevitably leak our personal data and exploit us... no punishment what so ever. And all we're told is "it may not be the best system, but it's better than any other"... yeah, but it's getting worse. And I'm not over here saying "tear it all down! Anarchy in the US!" but this system doesn't work for enough people, only those with enough ca$h. What about you...? What do you do to prove you're paying attention? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sad_Face 12/20/19 5:18:07 PM #63:	Webmaster4531 posted... Bernie didn't run as a third party candidate. He threw his support behind Hillary Clinton even though she, Debbie Schultz, and the DNC underhandedly used there super delegate vote to dissuade voting for Bernie. Bernie supporters would understandably be unenthusiastic for Hillary. I still voted for her even though I'm not in a swing state. I regret not voting in my primary last cycle (can't vote for the president in the main election as I live in a territory) but man was it a killjoy watching what happened to Bernie in the Democratic side. I wouldn't have voted for Clinton if could because of all that happened, to hell with the greater good if that's what it means. This primary season, I'll be sure to have my Voter's Registration ID ready. So I can vote for Yang. --- imgtc.com/i/4HgTl0ebzq.jpg imgtc.com/i/60CWP2Gtlg.gif <cite>Sad_Face posted [p:931855248] in Joe Rogan ... [t:78267972]...</cite> <quote>Webmaster4531 posted... </cite> <quote>Bernie didn't run as a third party candidate. He threw his support behind Hillary Clinton even though she, Debbie Schultz, and the DNC underhandedly used there super delegate vote to dissuade voting for Bernie. Bernie supporters would understandably be unenthusiastic for Hillary. I still voted for her even though I'm not in a swing state.</quote> I regret not voting in my primary last cycle (can't vote for the president in the main election as I live in a territory) but man was it a killjoy watching what happened to Bernie in the Democratic side. I wouldn't have voted for Clinton if could because of all that happened, to hell with the greater good if that's what it means. This primary season, I'll be sure to have my Voter's Registration ID ready. So I can vote for Yang. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 12/20/19 5:18:15 PM #64:	CyricZ posted... Also Stephen Miller. Funny story. An account now suspended that people have accused of being ROD claimed I was a fan of that guy after he randomly brought him up for no reason when I was talking about something completely different. --- #DepravedDonald #LockTrumpUp <cite>Machete posted [p:931855252] in Joe Rogan ... [t:78267972]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote> Also Stephen Miller. </quote> Funny story. An account now suspended that people have accused of being ROD claimed I was a fan of that guy after he randomly brought him up for no reason when I was talking about something completely different.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSMajinVegeta2 12/20/19 5:22:53 PM #65:	FreezerDoor posted... Alt Right Hero Joe Rogan defends guy who said letting your child be trans at 3 is child abuse. simple. It is child abuse. --- On my business card, I am a corporate president. In my mind, I am a game developer. But in my heart, I am a gamer. Satoru Iwata, 1959 - 2015 RIP GP God bless <cite>SSMajinVegeta2 posted [p:931855401] in Joe Rogan ... [t:78267972]...</cite> <quote>FreezerDoor posted... </cite> <quote>Alt Right Hero Joe Rogan defends guy who said letting your child be trans at 3 is child abuse.</quote> simple. It is child abuse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
airgrenade 12/20/19 5:27:08 PM #66:	SSMajinVegeta2 posted... simple. It is child abuse. Yeah, I'm sure someone who likes Dragon Ball knows what good parenting is. --- Do I look like a traitor? https://imgur.com/d8KwfQa <cite>airgrenade posted [p:931855536] in Joe Rogan ... [t:78267972]...</cite> <quote>SSMajinVegeta2 posted... </cite> <quote>simple. It is child abuse.</quote> Yeah, I'm sure someone who likes Dragon Ball knows what good parenting is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 12/20/19 5:35:10 PM #67:	darkjedilink posted... Yeah, because 24 hours a day for three years of 'DONALD TRUMP IS A RUSSIAN ASSET! WE HAVE A BILLION PAGES OF IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE! THE PEE TAPE EXISTS! COMEY IS A NATIONAL HERO, AND HIS FIRING IS OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE!' didn't turn out to be literally fake news, right? If Don ever shut up and got off Twitter to do his job maybe people would stop reacting to him. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:931855863] in Joe Rogan ... [t:78267972]...</cite> <quote>darkjedilink posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, because 24 hours a day for three years of 'DONALD TRUMP IS A RUSSIAN ASSET! WE HAVE A BILLION PAGES OF IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE! THE PEE TAPE EXISTS! COMEY IS A NATIONAL HERO, AND HIS FIRING IS OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE!' didn't turn out to be literally fake news, right?</quote> If Don ever shut up and got off Twitter to do his job maybe people would stop reacting to him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 12/20/19 5:43:14 PM #68:	HairyThotter posted... talk about impeachment/gun rights being revoked People who want a complete gun ban are rare. How is impeachment extreme? HairyThotter posted... talk about 'the wall' or immigration. Why is there single quotes on the wall? No one cares about the fence a cheap saw can break. Immigration should rile people up. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/02/us/politics/border-center-migrant-detention.html You really don't pay attention to issues. HairyThotter posted... Meanwhile, people still dying from addiction, the outrageous price of health care, the fact that there aren't enough teachers (and that they're under paid), while the cost of school is getting higher and higher and wages remain stagnant. Tech conglomerates ride roughshod with our personal data and get a slap on the wrist when they inevitably leak our personal data and exploit us... no punishment what so ever. Dying from addiction - Democrats lean toward regulations on pharmaceutical companies. Healthcare - Democrats have been pushing healthcare reform. Teachers- Bernie Sanders wants to change how we fund schools so it not mostly property taxes. School - I'm a broken record at this point. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:931856135] in Joe Rogan ... [t:78267972]...</cite> <quote>HairyThotter posted... </cite> <quote>talk about impeachment/gun rights being revoked</quote>People who want a complete gun ban are rare. How is impeachment extreme? HairyThotter posted... </cite> <quote>talk about 'the wall' or immigration.</quote>Why is there single quotes on the wall? No one cares about the fence a cheap saw can break. Immigration should rile people up. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/02/us/politics/border-center-migrant-detention.html You really don't pay attention to issues. HairyThotter posted... </cite> <quote>Meanwhile, people still dying from addiction, the outrageous price of health care, the fact that there aren't enough teachers (and that they're under paid), while the cost of school is getting higher and higher and wages remain stagnant. Tech conglomerates ride roughshod with our personal data and get a slap on the wrist when they inevitably leak our personal data and exploit us... no punishment what so ever.</quote>Dying from addiction - Democrats lean toward regulations on pharmaceutical companies. Healthcare - Democrats have been pushing healthcare reform. Teachers- Bernie Sanders wants to change how we fund schools so it not mostly property taxes. School - I'm a broken record at this point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HairyThotter 12/20/19 5:49:49 PM #69:	Webmaster4531 posted... You really don't pay attention to issues. :/ Well... at any rate... thanks for the chat --- "With cheese in either hand, anything is possible" <cite>HairyThotter posted [p:931856347] in Joe Rogan ... [t:78267972]...</cite> <quote>Webmaster4531 posted... </cite> <quote>You really don't pay attention to issues.</quote> :/ Well... at any rate... thanks for the chat </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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