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No_U_L7 posted...

He purposely did this for the video to illustrate how far you can/cant push something and how entitled you should be. Daily him and most pick up artists rarely ever push it that far...he just doesnt want guys to cave at the first "no thanks"

This sounds like those guys who ask me for money for the bus.

darkphoenix181 posted...

This sounds like those guys who ask me for money for the bus.

It's a pick up concept called persistence without being needy. At no point does he ever get needy or give up any of his value. Past a certain point it is pointless, but being persistent definitely works out in the long term.

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No_U_L7 posted...

It's a pick up concept called persistence without being needy. At no point does he ever get needy or give up any of his value. Past a certain point it is pointless, but being persistent definitely works out in the long term.

It's called sexual fucking harassment. Why the fuck are you defending this scumbag?
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lol

is talking about your therapist and depression standard protocol then?

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No_U_L7 posted...

It's a pick up concept called persistence without being needy. At no point does he ever get needy or give up any of his value. Past a certain point it is pointless, but being persistent definitely works out in the long term.

This is called, the person doesn't want to give you what you ask for, but they want you to stop annoying them.
Some people like me will be mean, but a few people are afraid of being mean and will give a dollar to have them stop annoying them.
In pua terms, the girl isn't attracted but freaked out and has no idea how to exit the situation other than giving her number when she totally does not want to give it at all.

This guy is so awkward. I've approached two girls before and after that initial awkwardness, they warmed up to me and talked to me. These girls never warmed up to this guy.

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Turtlebread posted...

lol

is talking about your therapist and depression standard protocol then?

Idk what you mean

darkphoenix181 posted...

This is called, the person doesn't want to give you what you ask for, but they want you to stop annoying them.
Some people like me will be mean, but a few people are afraid of being mean and will give a dollar to have them stop annoying them.
In pua terms, the girl isn't attracted but freaked out and has no idea how to exit the situation other than giving her number when she totally does not want to give it at all.

Youre making assumptions. Not saying that never happens, but what also happens is girls are turned on by the confidence. Lots of girls, especially hot girls will say no to even guys they like just to test them. If you know how to properly escalate things will still work positively a good amount of the time.

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lol at he doesn't give up any of his value
because those women clearly see his value as demonstrated by his awkward and terrible approach

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Pepys Monster posted...

This guy is so awkward. I've approached two girls before and after that initial awkwardness, they warmed up to me and talked to me. These girls never warmed up to this guy.

No one bats 100% on a large scale

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No_U_L7 posted...

Youre making assumptions. Not saying that never happens, but what also happens is girls are turned on by the confidence. Lots of girls, especially hot girls will say no to even guys they like just to test them. If you know how to properly escalate things will still work positively a good amount of the time.

that is fucked up to say. Sexually harassing women, stopping them from leaving until you get "use" from them with their number is fucked up . Like legitimately, what the fuck is wrong with you that you're defending this scumbag?
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No_U_L7 posted...

No one bats 100% on a large scale

I know, but my point is that he should've called it quits when he realized they weren't warming up to him, and they just wanted to be left alone.

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No_U_L7 posted...

Youre making assumptions. Not saying that never happens, but what also happens is girls are turned on by the confidence. Lots of girls, especially hot girls will say no to even guys they like just to test them. If you know how to properly escalate things will still work positively a good amount of the time.

Sounds like you are making an assumption that they are just testing you.

Pepys Monster posted...

I know, but my point is that he should've called it quits when he realized they weren't warming up to him, and they just wanted to be left alone.

Again, he wants to show for the camera how far he can persist

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No_U_L7 posted...

Again, he wants to show for the camera how far he can persist

But he just comes off as a creepy dude instead of a gentleman.

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No_U_L7 posted...

Again, he wants to show for the camera how far he can persist

"haha look at me I like to sexually harass women. This is what you do guys!"

What the fuck is wrong with you defending him?
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No_U_L7 posted...

Idk what you mean

Youre making assumptions. Not saying that never happens, but what also happens is girls are turned on by the confidence. Lots of girls, especially hot girls will say no to even guys they like just to test them. If you know how to properly escalate things will still work positively a good amount of the time.

This is the same train of thought that actual rapists follow. Ive read The Game. It was a lot of the same.

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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...

that is fucked up to say. Sexually harassing women, stopping them from leaving until you get "use" from them with their number is fucked up . Like legitimately, what the fuck is wrong with you that you're defending this scumbag?

Yeah, the guy in the video is a total jerk. Those women were clearly not interested in him from the first second of the interaction and if he had even a modicum of respect for other people he would have immediately left.

You have to remember that even if you're a "pick up artist", the women you're interacting with are _people_ who deserve the same amount of respect you'd give anyone else in the world.

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darkphoenix181 posted...

Sounfs like you are making an assumption that they are just testing you.

Are you saying women dont test guys?

If you carry yourself with confidence and are a guy of value, that's a safe assumption. Either they are testing you and you'll pass...or it wouldnt matter either way. No big loss if it's the latter. If it's the former and you dont persist, you're giving up a lot of opportunity in the long term

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Pepys Monster posted...

No_U_L7 posted...
Again, he wants to show for the camera how far he can persist

he should've just stalked them all the way home and waited outside of their apartments for an opportune moment to strike
you know
to show the camera how far he can persist

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Pepys Monster posted...

But he just comes off as a creepy dude instead of a gentleman.

Lmao who cares about being a gentleman

Deadpool_18 posted...

This is the same train of thought that actual rapists follow. Ive read The Game. It was a lot of the same.

Let's not make that massive leap from persistence to rape. I've never read that book

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No_U_L7 posted...

Are you saying women dont test guys?

If you carry yourself with confidence and are a guy of value, that's a safe assumption. Either they are testing you and you'll pass...or it wouldnt matter either way. No big loss if it's the latter. If it's the former and you dont persist, you're giving up a lot of opportunity in the long term

Women don't see a strange guy walking up to them and think

"I am going to reject whatever he asks because he is hot but I only deem him worthy of me if he keeps asking!"

No_U_L7 posted...

Are you saying women dont test guys?

If you carry yourself with confidence and are a guy of value, that's a safe assumption. Either they are testing you and you'll pass...or it wouldnt matter either way. No big loss if it's the latter. If it's the former and you dont persist, you're giving up a lot of opportunity in the long term

Test? Like "you don't get to leave until you do what I want"?
That's called a crime, dude.

No_U_L7 posted...

Lmao who cares about being a gentleman

Yeah, who cares about sexually harassing women. All good fun to get their number right bro? Just PUA style right bro?

Again why the fuck are you defending this scumbag
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No_U_L7 posted...

Lmao this is one of the top 3 pick up artists in the world. He has hundreds of pick ups of tons of hot girls on youtube alone

Idk how you can cherry pick his one "blowout" interaction and use that as "evidence" against being a pick up artist

I could post a pick up video of this guy every day and not run out of videos before the end of 2020

He actually even PURPOSEFULLY posted this video to show that he doesnt have a 100% success rate. He posted this video to show how far hes willing to push an interaction. But most important, he posted this video to show that it doesnt matter if you get "rejected". Seriously...who cares. Those girls will forget him by the next day. He is showing that he doesnt care. And then in his class (which yes I paid to take) he contrasts that with his successes and asks if you knew you could take home the hot girls he showed us videos of and deal with the occasional "rejection" like this...who wouldnt take that offer?

Tons of pick up artists put out "rejection compilations" just to show a realsitic portrayal of how they dont have a 100% success rate
And also...this video was made EIGHT years ago lmao

So...what exactly is he doing wrong? He saw girls he wanted to talk to them and did so confident. He persisted and when they left he was fine with it

Thanks for the thorough explanation, I knew something was off. CE always loves to jump on things before understanding it, perennial front runners

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darkphoenix181 posted...

Women don't see a strange guy walking up to them and think

"I am going to reject whatever he asks because he is hot but I only deem him worthy of me if he keeps asking!"

You're thinking of it too logically, it's more of an emotional decision. Either the guy leaves and the girl will say he wasnt worth it or hell persist and she'll change her mind. Sadly obviously some girls and a lot of hot girls do think this way:

https://pics.me.me/a-guy-asked-me-out-today-and-i-told-him-31450120.png

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Kazi1212 posted...

Thanks for the thorough explanation, I knew something was off. CE always loves to jump on things before understanding it, perennial front runners

yes it's called realizing the video has a man being a scumbag and we shouldn't believe the dude who says it's just persistence to block women from leaving
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No_U_L7 posted...

You're thinking of it too logically, it's more of an emotional decision. Either the guy leaves and the girl will say he wasnt worth it or hell persist and she'll change her mind. Sadly obviously some girls and a lot of hot girls do think this way:

https://pics.me.me/a-guy-asked-me-out-today-and-i-told-him-31450120.png

yeah she never asked to be sexually assaulted.
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No_U_L7 posted...

You're thinking of it too logically, it's more of an emotional decision. Either the guy leaves and the girl will say he wasnt worth it or hell persist and she'll change her mind. Sadly obviously some girls and a lot of hot girls do think this way:

https://pics.me.me/a-guy-asked-me-out-today-and-i-told-him-31450120.png

I guess the guy asking for bus money (that he totally will spend on booze) can imagine some people say no but don't mean no and when he gives his fake sob story and gets the money, his confidence won them over.

What an ass.

People who keep trying to talk to you when you don't want to talk to them are just the worst. Or to mention the bad, disingenuous acting. Does anyone older than 12 really fall for such nonsense?

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Umbreon posted...

What an ass.

People who keep trying to talk to you when you don't want to talk to them are just the worst. Or to mention the bad, disingenuous acting. Does anyone older than 12 really fall for such nonsense?

It's basically intimidation and psychological manipulation that the scumbag in the video is using in order to get what he wants.
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dur posted...

You have to remember that even if you're a "pick up artist", the women you're interacting with are _people_

The PUA community kind of requires you to not believe that. These aren't people who consider the thoughts and feelings of others.

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Its Dennis Reynolds!
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Ah yes, the guy who would fuck a 13 year old if it was legal is defending this.
How quaint.

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spanky1 posted...

Its Dennis Reynolds!

to be fair, at least the D.E.N.N.I.S. system involved a modicum of nurturing at some point

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No_U_L7 posted...

Lmao who cares about being a gentleman

Let's not make that massive leap from persistence to rape. I've never read that book

Sure you havent.

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The D.E.N.N.I.S system more or less is the same thing when you involve that he fakes phone calls to make them scared.
The idea is "terrify them so they do whatever you want to make it end"
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darkphoenix181 posted...

I guess the guy asking for bus money (that he totally will spend on booze) can imagine some people say no but don't mean no and when he gives his fake sob story and gets the money, his confidence won them over.

The homeless guy gives up his value there. Tell me where in the video he gives up value. He still carries himself with confidence regardless of what the girl says

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Deadpool_18 posted...

Sure you havent.

That's the old method of pick up. It took on a new life circa 2010 without any of the wacky gimmicks like peacocking

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No_U_L7 posted...

The homeless guy gives up his value there. Tell me where in the video he gives up value. He still carries himself with confidence regardless of what the girl says

Yes he still feels pride after harassing a woman who's trying to get away

No_U_L7 posted...

That's the old method of pick up. It took on a new life circa 2010 without any of the wacky gimmicks like peacocking

you don't ever actually speak to women though
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No_U_L7 posted...

The homeless guy gives up his value there. Tell me where in the video he gives up value. He still carries himself with confidence regardless of what the girl says

Oh trust me, the homeless guy is very confident.
Even when he sense his prey is extremely defensive he approaches hard like a champ.
Gotta get them dollars you know.

RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...

The D.E.N.N.I.S system more or less is the same thing when you involve that he fakes phone calls to make them scared.
The idea is "terrify them so they do whatever you want to make it end"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-yUafzOXHPE

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darkphoenix181 posted...

Oh trust me, the homeless guy is very confident.
Even when he sense his prey is extremely defensive he approaches hard like a champ.
Gotta get them dollars you know.

Generally if you're crying and telling sob stories to earn sympathy you're giving up your value

Tell me where in that video he does that

Also stop with the strawman lol

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Umbreon posted...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-yUafzOXHPE

Dennis is probably my favourite character.
I loved the bonding he had with Abby in the water park episode

No_U_L7 posted...

Generally if you're crying and telling sob stories to earn sympathy you're giving up your value

Tell me where in that video he does that

Also stop with the strawman lol

When they're trying to get the fuck away from the scumbag predator and he blocks them?
Again why the fuck are you defending this scumbag?
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No_U_L7 posted...

Generally if you're crying and telling sob stories to earn sympathy you're giving up your value

Tell me where in that video he does that

Also stop with the strawman lol

The homeless guy isn't asking for a date. His goal is a dollar.
The sob story doesn't lower his value since the whole point is he wants you to pity him when the reality is he just wants to make money off you and has a wad of cash already.
It is very similar to pua and they use the same tactics.
Difference is he isn't trying to prop himself up but gain pity since pity = get the money.

No_U_L7 posted...

Generally if you're crying and telling sob stories to earn sympathy you're giving up your value

Tell me where in that video he does that

Also stop with the strawman lol

the part with the therapy and depression starting at 2:30
even as a joke it was pathetic
I had better 'game' when I was 10

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Honestly...

Either U L doesn't actually believe this, and he's just claiming he does to get a reaction...

Or they actually believe it. I feel like the appropriate action in either scenario is one and the same.

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Umbreon posted...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-yUafzOXHPE

I really need to watch this show.

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darkphoenix181 posted...

The homeless guy isn't asking for a date. His goal is a dollar.
The sob story doesn't lower his value since the whole point is he wants you to pity him when the reality is he just wants to make money off you and has a wad of cash already.
It is very similar to pua and they use the same tactics.
Difference is he isn't trying to prop himself up but gain pity since pity = get the money.

Your strawman has gone too far, it makes 0 sense

Turtlebread posted...

the part with the therapy and depression starting at 2:30
even as a joke it was pathetic
I had better 'game' when I was 10

Oh havent seen this video in years

Umbreon posted...

Honestly...

Either U L doesn't actually believe this, and he's just claiming he does to get a reaction...

Or they actually believe it. I feel like the appropriate action in either scenario is one and the same.

Believe what? Its obviously a bad video...but that's the point. He uploaded it to show even he doesnt get positive reactions 100% of the time

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No_U_L7 posted...

Believe what? Its obviously a bad video...but that's the point. He uploaded it to show even he doesnt get positive reactions 100% of the time

so the point is then to continue to harass the victims?
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Why censor the faces? It's public property and it's not some tv show

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