Current Events > How come Resident Evil 0 isn't as popular as 1-4?

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I've only seen 5 mins of it, but it looks like a solid game. At least graphics wise

The tag team mechanic was complete ass

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Its was just an ok resident evil game. Im trying to put my finger on what about it I didnt really like.
refmon posted...

The tag team mechanic was complete ass

That might have been it

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Is that the one where you fight infected zoo animals the whole game

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It's just not as good.

The biggest complaint is that the item management is a lot more annoying. Rather than item boxes, you simply drop shit on the ground. Nice for when you need to empty your inventory to grab a key item, annoying when you have three key items you need on the other side of the map.

I seem to remember the partner system being a little bit clunky too, but I might be making that up.

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It was released on the Gamecube, which maybe ten thousand people bought. RE0 didn't really get that much hate back in the day.

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It's clear they just got halfway through making it a co-op Resident Evil but couldn't figure out how to fully implement a functional co-op system and so just ended up making the best of what they already had. So you end up with a lot of mechanics that don't really make function well as part of a single player RE experience and get in the way of the things that do work. It's far from the worst entry in the series, but it is very flawed.

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pegusus123456 posted...

It's just not as good.

The biggest complaint is that the item management is a lot more annoying. Rather than item boxes, you simply drop shit on the ground. Nice for when you need to empty your inventory to grab a key item, annoying when you have three key items you need on the other side of the map.

I seem to remember the partner system being a little bit clunky too, but I might be making that up.

Frolex posted...

It's clear they just got halfway through making it a co-op Resident Evil but couldn't figure out how to fully implement a functional co-op system and so just ended up making the best of what they already had. So you end up with a lot of mechanics that don't really function well as part of a single player RE experience and get in the way of the things that do work. It's far from the worst entry in the series, but it is very flawed.

Both of these.

Garreyn posted...

It was released on the Gamecube, which maybe ten thousand people bought. RE0 didn't really get that much hate back in the day. This didn't really hurt the Resident Evil Remake as much, since RE1 was already established as good.

RE4 was a GameCube exclusive at launch, certainly didn't hurt that one.

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It's a solid game. Just drawn out and a little clunky.

I would put it and Code Veronica in the same category. Not nearly as good as RE2, RE3 or REmake.

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The_Ivory_Man posted...

Both of these.

RE4 was a GameCube exclusive at launch, certainly didn't hurt that one.

RE4 was quickly ported over to the PS2 when they realized they actually had something. That's when the RE4 praise really picked up. Before then it was just your usual reviewers spewing the usual garbage. PS2 release solidified it as a great game. I'm sure opinions of RE0 would be a little higher if more than twenty people who actually bought Gamecubes would have got the chance.

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It's okay, but just okay, not great.

Garreyn posted...

RE4 was quickly ported over to the PS2 when they realized they actually had something. That's when the RE4 praise really picked up. Before then it was just your usual reviewers spewing the usual garbage. PS2 release solidified it as a great game. I'm sure opinions of RE0 would be a little higher if more than twenty people who actually bought Gamecubes would have got the chance.

the heck are you talking about, everyone knew RE4 was fucking golden the second it came out. I was there during the hype and all the backlash from the dev cycle, RE4 was bombastic.

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I honestly hate the fact that you have to play two characters at once.

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The_Ivory_Man posted...

RE4 was a GameCube exclusive at launch, certainly didn't hurt that one.

I think the difference is that RE4 was such a massive thing that people bought Gamecubes just to play it. Or at least I did.


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orcus_snake posted...

the heck are you talking about, everyone knew RE4 was fucking golden the second it came out. I was there during the hype and all the backlash from the dev cycle, RE4 was bombastic.

Can we please not use the term "everyone" when it comes to a console that fifty people had. As I mentioned, the reviewers definitely went crazy over how great RE4 was, rightfully so. Unfortunately most people didn't get to experience it until it got ported to the PS2. You know, the best selling console of all time.

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Garreyn posted...

Can we please not use the term "everyone" when it comes to a console that fifty people had. As I mentioned, the reviewers definitely went crazy over how great RE4 was, rightfully so. Unfortunately most people didn't get to experience it until it got ported to the PS2. You know, the best selling console of all time.

The GC was only slightly behind the XBOX in sales. Can you quit being so dramatic?

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It was the worst in the series at that point.

Playing as two characters was sort of a neat idea, but it wasn't fun and often times far more of a hindrance on the fun.

But honestly, the biggest problem was the inventory story. Super limited space and the removal of item boxes. I think this was the worst thing the franchise had done at this point. It was so tedious and annoying. Hated it.

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Dramatic? I assume you're looking at just the number which is about what I would expect. The Gamecube has a shared number around the world, with the US maybe making up...hm...7% of the number maybe. JP loves their Nintendos. The XBox numbers are basically all US.

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Zero is a terrible game. One of the worst in the main series. Plus it was never popular.

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Slug monsters.

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Garreyn posted...

Dramatic? I assume you're looking at just the number which is about what I would expect. The Gamecube has a shared number around the world, with the US maybe making up...hm...7% of the number maybe. JP loves their Nintendos. The XBox numbers are basically all US.

Stop pulling nonsense out of nowhere. RE4 was advertised to death when it came out on GC since Nintendo finally had an edgy adult game. GC also sold around 20 million plus consoles and I dont remember the numbers but they were around the same for Japan and NA. And RE games sell way more in the states than Japan.

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RE4 came to close to it

The Resident Evil Remake and RE 4 took attention away from it.

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It came at the height of the best resident evil games. If it came out now it would be highly regarded as the best.

great game.

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Guy_Fieri posted...

Is that the one where you fight infected zoo animals the whole game

thats one of the multiplayer re games on ps2

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You do fight a fuckload of animals in RE0 though.

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pegusus123456 posted...

It's just not as good.

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Because Rebecca and her pet dog just aren't worth the time nor the effort.
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The mansion incident should have been a cake walk for Rebecca after what she been through in 0.

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People forget that Zero was the game where Capcom tried to abandon the item box only for the item system to get 10x worse. It made venturing into new areas really...dumb because you had no idea what weapons to bring with you. So, towards the end, you can have all your strong weapons still at the beginning of the game. There are shortcuts, but...the system was an utter failure.

This failure, imo, may have inspired them to go in the direction they did with RE4. And that was a hell of a game.

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Mostly because it came out on a console that not many people owned and was released in the midst of a lot of big titles on more successful consoles.

RE0 came out a mere 2 weeks after GTA Vice City

Wii_Shaker posted...

It's a solid game. Just drawn out and a little clunky.

I would put it and Code Veronica in the same category. Not nearly as good as RE2, RE3 or REmake.

Nah Code Veronica is the best game in the series. Easily the best story.

RE0 was fine, just not as good as the excellent REmake.

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Veggeta_MAX posted...

The mansion incident should have been a cake walk for Rebecca after what she been through in 0.

To be fair, she'd been awake for like 32 hours at that point, seen her entire team killed, and had her ass kicked around.

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I always found the original the most boring of the first four, hopefully they improve the story, it was mostly some guy saying STAAAAAAAARSSSSSS all game long and chasing you

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It was on Gamecube and just wasn't that good.

It probably would have had a cult following if it was also released on PS2. But with Gamecube selling so low it couldn't even get that.

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There are probably some RE fans that cult-like it but it was easily the most difficult game in the franchise due to the puzzle solving via the tag team mechanic and the inventory management. Also if I recall the zombies were MUCH tougher in it. In theory it was a decent idea but this was back when inventory management was sitll stuck in 90s RE mode. Also the close quarters made things feel cramped and cluttered, which may kind be what they were going for- but in the end it's more of an uncomfortable claustrophobia rather than horror-inducing.

JuanCarlos1 posted...

Stop pulling nonsense out of nowhere. RE4 was advertised to death when it came out on GC since Nintendo finally had an edgy adult game. GC also sold around 20 million plus consoles and I dont remember the numbers but they were around the same for Japan and NA. And RE games sell way more in the states than Japan.

GC sold poorly in Japan. With only 4 million units sold. PS2 was sitting at 21 million units

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles_by_region

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The only way the Gamecube got in the way of the game's success was the RE was still predominantly coined as a PS title despite the Dreamcast having RE:CV, but I don't recall that being an issue since RE:Make was released earlier in 2002 and was a critical and commercial success.

Tag team and inventory management system were fucking awful, but the game itself was alright despite its flaws. Just kinda mediocre, I guess?