Current Events > NYPD cops testify that they were given racist arrest quotas

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/06/nyregion/nyc-police-subway-racial-profiling.html

At a police station tucked into an end-of-the-line subway terminal in South Brooklyn, the new commander instructed officers to think of white and Asian people as soft targets and urged them to instead go after blacks and Latinos for minor offenses like jumping the turnstile, a half-dozen officers said in sworn statements.

You are stopping too many Russian and Chinese, one of the officers, Daniel Perez, recalled the commander telling him earlier this decade.

Another officer, Aaron Diaz, recalled the same commander saying in 2012, You should write more black and Hispanic people.

The sworn statements, gathered in the last few months as part of a discrimination lawsuit, deal with a period between 2011 and 2015. But they are now emerging publicly at a time when policing in the subway has become a contentious issue, sparking protests over a crackdown on fare evasion and other low-level offenses.

The commander, Constantin Tsachas, was in charge of more than 100 officers who patrolled a swath of the subway system in Brooklyn, his first major command. Since then, he has been promoted to the second-in-command of policing the subway system throughout Brooklyn. Along the way, more than half a dozen subordinates claim, he gave them racially explicit directives about whom to arrest.

Those subordinates recently came forward, many for the first time, providing signed affidavits to support a discrimination lawsuit brought by four black and Hispanic police officers.

The officers claim they faced retaliation from the New York Police Department because they objected to what they said was a longstanding quota system for arrests and tickets, which they argued mainly affected black and Hispanic New Yorkers.

The authorities have deployed hundreds of additional officers to the subways, provoking a debate about overpolicing and the criminalization of poverty. Videos of arrests of young black men and of a woman selling churros in the subway system have gone viral in recent weeks. Demonstrators have taken to the subway system and jumped turnstiles in protes

Six officers said in their affidavits that Mr. Tsachas, now a deputy inspector, pressured them to enforce low-level violations against black and Hispanic people, while discouraging them from doing the same to white or Asian people.

Inspector Tsachas declined to comment when reached by telephone this week, but his union representative said the inspector denied the allegations of misconduct. The Police Department also declined to address the allegations.

The department has said in the past that its enforcement of fare evasion is not aimed at black and Hispanic people.

More than three years ago, when Inspector Tsachas was promoted to his current rank, the police commissioner at the time, William J. Bratton, said that allegations Inspector Tsachas pushed quotas were false.

I have full faith and support in him, Mr. Bratton said. He added that Inspector Tsachas had the requisite skills and comes highly recommended.

Most of the people arrested on charges of fare evasion in New York are black and Hispanic, according to data the Police Department has been required to report under local law since 2017.

Between October 2017 and June 2019, black and Hispanic people, who account for slightly more than half the population in New York City, made up nearly 73 percent of those who got a ticket for fare evasion and whose race was recorded. They also made up more than 90 percent of those who were arrested, rather than given a ticket.

Some elected officials have complained about the apparent racial disparity in arrests, saying it may indicate bias on the part of officers or an unofficial policy of racial profiling by the police.

The focus of black and brown people, even if other people were doing the same crime, points to what many of us have been saying for a while, the citys public advocate, Jumaane Williams, said in an interview. The same actions lead to different results, unfortunately, depending on where you live and an overlay of what you look like.

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fuckin pigs

"lets arrest based on race, not crime!"

fuckin disgusting
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Also, uh, I think they majorly increased the character limit on posts, which is cool for my purposes.
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Thousands of white people need to jump turnstyles en masse to send a message that we dont want their fucking special treatment and as an act of solidarity with the black and Hispanic community

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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

Thousands of white people need to jump turnstyles en masse to send a message that we dont want their fucking special treatment and as an act of solidarity with the black and Hispanic community

that would be a wonderful act of civil disobedience.
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American's biggest gang/ white supremacist organization

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stories like this are why it shocks me that bootlickers don't understand why people hate cops
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I was told that institutional racism did not exist in the United States

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n o s u c h t h i n g a s i n s t a t u t i o n a l i z e d r a c i s m

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Hanky_Bannister posted...

stories like this are why it shocks me that bootlickers don't understand why people hate cops

Its because theyre ok with it. They agree with it.

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What is the commander's official police rank? I bet it's Admiral.
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Hanky_Bannister posted...

stories like this are why it shocks me that bootlickers don't understand why people hate cops

They understand. Don't mistake malice for ignorance.

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I'm shocked. Shocked I tell ya!

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I wonder how long it'll take for someone to defend this?

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What an absolute fucking shocker.

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Wow. Fuck everyone involved with this, let's see real consequences. This is inexcusable.

everytime someone is like "Why are black people so distrustful of Police?"

I can point to incidents like this, which are far from isolated incidents. When the fucking largest city in the US has a discrimination lawsuit, you can't help but think there is still clear systemic racism.

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i for one am shocked

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What a bunch of fucking bullshit, meanwhile that garbage bin in human form William barr is trying to get shit like "Annoying cops is a crime!" and trying to withhold police from communities who don't completely kiss they're ass. Fuck people like him, the government and those the government employ are suppose to serve the people not the other way around.

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But I was told that cops must be respected no matter what.
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just another isolated incident

https://www.nyclu.org/en/stop-and-frisk-data

According to the NYPD's Annual Reports:

• In 2002, 97,296 NYPD stops were recorded.
• 80,176 were innocent (82 percent).
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• In 2003, 160,851 NYPD stops were recorded.
• 140,442 were innocent (87 percent).
• 77,704 were Black (54 percent).
• 44,581 were Latinx (31 percent).
• 17,623 were white (12 percent).
• 83,499 were aged 14-24 (55 percent).
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• In 2004, 313,523 NYPD stops were recorded.
• 278,933 were innocent (89 percent).
• 155,033 were Black (55 percent).
• 89,937 were Latinx (32 percent).
• 28,913 were white (10 percent).
• 152,196 were aged 14-24 (52 percent).
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• In 2005, 398,191 NYPD stops were recorded.
• 352,348 were innocent (89 percent).
• 196,570 were Black (54 percent).
• 115,088 were Latinx (32 percent).
• 40,713 were white (11 percent).
• 189,854 were aged 14-24 (51 percent).
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• In 2006, 506,491 NYPD stops were recorded.
• 457,163 were innocent (90 percent).
• 267,468 were Black (53 percent).
• 147,862 were Latinx (29 percent).
• 53,500 were white (11 percent).
• 247,691 were aged 14-24 (50 percent).
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• In 2007, 472,096 NYPD stops were recorded.
• 410,936 were innocent (87 percent).
• 243,766 were Black (54 percent).
• 141,868 were Latinx (31 percent).
• 52,887 were white (12 percent).
• 223,783 were aged 14-24 (48 percent).
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• In 2008, 540,302 NYPD stops were recorded.
• 474,387 were innocent (88 percent).
• 275,588 were Black (53 percent).
• 168,475 were Latinx (32 percent).
• 57,650 were white (11 percent).
• 263,408 were aged 14-24 (49 percent).
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• In 2009, 581,168 NYPD stops were recorded.
• 510,742 were innocent (88 percent).
• 310,611 were Black (55 percent).
• 180,055 were Latinx (32 percent).
• 53,601 were white (10 percent).
• 289,602 were aged 14-24 (50 percent).
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• In 2010, 601,285 NYPD stops were recorded.
• 518,849 were innocent (86 percent).
• 315,083 were Black (54 percent).
• 189,326 were Latinx (33 percent).
• 54,810 were white (9 percent).
• 295,902 were aged 14-24 (49 percent).
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• In 2011, 685,724 NYPD stops were recorded.
• 605,328 were innocent (88 percent).
• 350,743 were Black (53 percent).
• 223,740 were Latinx (34 percent).
• 61,805 were white (9 percent).
• 341,581 were aged 14-24 (51 percent).
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• In 2012, 532,911 NYPD stops were recorded.
• 473,644 were innocent (89 percent).
• 284,229 were Black (55 percent).
• 165,140 were Latinx (32 percent).
• 50,366 were white (10 percent).
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• In 2013, 191,851 NYPD stops were recorded.
• 169,252 were innocent (88 percent).
• 104,958 were Black (56 percent).
• 55,191 were Latinx (29 percent).
• 20,877 were white (11 percent).
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• In 2014, 45,787 NYPD stops were recorded.
• 37,744 were innocent (82 percent).
• 24,319 were Black (53 percent).
• 12,489 were Latinx (27 percent).
• 5,467 were white (12 percent).
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• In 2015, 22,565 NYPD stops were recorded.
• 18,353 were innocent (80 percent).
• 12,223 were Black (54 percent).
• 6,598 were Latinx (29 percent).
• 2,567 were white (11 percent).
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• In 2016, 12,404 NYPD stops were recorded.
• 9,394 were innocent (76 percent).
• 6,498 were Black (52 percent).
• 3,626 were Latinx (29 percent).
• 1,270 were white (10 percent).
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• In 2017, 11,629 NYPD stops were recorded.
• 7,833 were innocent (67 percent).
• 6,595 were Black (57 percent).
• 3,567 were Latinx (31 percent).
• 977 were white (8 percent).
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• In 2018, 11,008 NYPD stops were recorded.
• 7,645 were innocent (70 percent).
• 6,241 were Black (57 percent).
• 3,389 were Latinx (31 percent).
• 1,074 were white (10 percent).
• In the first half of 2019, 7,101 stops were recorded.
• 4,795 were innocent (68 percent).
• 4,246 were Black (60 percent).
• 2,039 were Latinx (29 percent).
• 680 were white (10 percent).

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What's the average percentage of stops being innocent? 60+ seems high....

Butterfiles posted...

I'm shocked. Shocked I tell ya!

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This is one of those subjects that gets real ugly real quick. The police are instructed to focus mainly on black people. Alright, but when you look at the simple FBI data on which racial demographics commit the most crime... .....yeah.

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Fuparulez posted...

This is one of those subjects that gets real ugly real quick. The police are instructed to focus mainly on black people. Alright, but when you look at the simple FBI data on which racial demographics commit the most crime... .....yeah.

Crime is high because they're broke, not because they're inherently criminal by nature. Yet the idea of assisting them to make liveable wages is always laughed out by Republicans who insist on being harsher on people who simply aren't content to go broke and die.

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Fuparulez posted...

This is one of those subjects that gets real ugly real quick. The police are instructed to focus mainly on black people. Alright, but when you look at the simple FBI data on which racial demographics commit the most crime... .....yeah.

Here we go with the fuckery, that didn't take long.

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Looks like they severely limited number of stops latter half of decade while still maintaining racial quotas

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Fuparulez posted...

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y i k e s

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Fuparulez posted...

.....yeah.

is this an admiral alt

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did fupa already get merked?

xD
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and he's gone

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Frolex posted...

and he's gone

good to see racists get their comeuppance
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A shame no one posted The Joker running up a flight of stairs meme.

But yeah, glad that nonsense was taken care of.

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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

Thousands of white people need to jump turnstyles en masse to send a message that we dont want their fucking special treatment and as an act of solidarity with the black and Hispanic community

Its much easier to post about it on social media than to go out and actually do something concrete about it.
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I would note that there was a mass (multiracial) turnstile jump in protest of the heightened policing, before this news

https://www.complex.com/life/2019/11/new-yorkers-protest-subway-police-brutality-by-jumping-turnstiles
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ffmasterjose posted...

Its much easier to post about it on social media than to go out and actually do something concrete about it.
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I mean, there's recently been mass protests via turnstyle jumping but people bitch about that too

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@Annihilated
care to comment on this?

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He'll probably just get purgatory but saying shit like that is basically an attempted account suicide at this point.

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Makeveli_lives posted...

Crime is high because they're broke, not because they're inherently criminal by nature. Yet the idea of assisting them to make liveable wages is always laughed out by Republicans who insist on being harsher on people who simply aren't content to go broke and die.

Thats avoiding the bigger issue here.

If the sole focus is on one demographic then of course that demographic is gonna be the one to provide the most data.

All the other races are getting away with crimes because they arent being monitored. So its no shit if you pull over 60% blacks and 20% whites youll probably find more blacks than whites committing crimes, because for every one whites person you stop your stopping 3 blacks.

Its an absurd situation and you have to be dumb as rocks to not understand why that skews the data.

Edit: for reference when I was younger I was stopped once with a black friend, I was sat on the curb and had my parents called. He was booked and had to get picked up at the station. So now theres data on one black person and not his whites friend who was doing the exact same thing. Its bullshit and fuck anyone defending this.

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Zeeak4444 posted...

If the sole focus is on one demographic then of course that demographic is gonna be the one to provide the most data.

For reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavrentiy_Beria

Show me the man and Ill show you the crime

Just because the institution is racist doesn't mean there's institutional racism!

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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

Thousands of white people need to jump turnstyles en masse to send a message that we dont want their fucking special treatment and as an act of solidarity with the black and Hispanic community

it wasnt NYC, but I used to live in a major city and took public transit every day to and from work. My monthly pass gave me unlimited access to trains and buses, I just had to tap my card on the turnstile thing. Almost every day I would tap someone in who was either waiting to get in or was having trouble with their daily/weekly pass because it was out of $$. Id usually do it as I was leaving a station for someone who was trying to get in to get on a train or bus.

if I had to guess Id say 75% of the time a transit cop would tell me I wasnt allowed to do that and Id either just flat out ignore them or stand there pretending to fiddle with my headphones and say what for as long as it took for the person to get past the gate. To be honest I was probably drunk or st*ned half the time anyway. I did this pretty much every day for about two years.

Really not that special or brave and definitely nowhere as close to the mass protest scale of things that youre talking about but its an alternative for people who might be too nervous to fully put themselves out there.

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Statistically, there are less smooth criminals than rough criminals

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Machete posted...

What is the commander's official police rank? I bet it's Admiral.

lol

but this story is fucked and hopefully whoever is responsible gets fired and charged

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I literally feel sick right now.

Kazi1212 posted...

Looks like they severely limited number of stops latter half of decade while still maintaining racial quotas

And they only did it less because of a court ruling that limited them.
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Good morning
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From post #22, the amount of total stops dramatically goes down which is good.

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gross and expected. I live in NYC and I know for a fact that we have a racist police force

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