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Revelation34
12/06/19 12:09:19 AM
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Thats... not how it works. Thats never been how it works.

Also, he wasnt found guilty. Civil trials dont work on guilt and innocent.

He was found responsible for her death.


It is exactly how it works. Just an excuse for asshats to get around double jeopardy.
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Revelation34
12/06/19 12:14:42 AM
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No. Just because you WANT something to be a way does not mean it will be that way.


Nah I'm right.
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Metalsonic66
12/06/19 12:18:46 AM
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OhhhJa
12/06/19 12:38:00 AM
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Zangulus posted...
Actually, I do. Hes considered by many to be a murderer. Being found not guilty does not absolve him of this.

His reputation for shooting an unarmed person and killing them makes him a murderer in the eyes of a large portion of the country.

You obviously have no clue what youre talking about. But as per usual you like to just state shit like that somehow makes you right.

It doesnt.

Sit down.
So if a crucial witness turned out to be making up their story that doesnt matter? That could have a major effect on the case and public perception. If parts of the story were fabricated, it may not have even gone to trial or caused the same media frenzy.

I know it's your schtick to be angry and wrong all the time but just stop
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BlackScythe0
12/06/19 12:47:10 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
So if a crucial witness turned out to be making up their story that doesnt matter? That could have a major effect on the case and public perception. If parts of the story were fabricated, it may not have even gone to trial or caused the same media frenzy.

I know it's your schtick to be angry and wrong all the time but just stop
It would matter, but it's a very insane conspiracy. This requires some of the most fucked up corruption I've heard accused at multiple levels and branches of government.

Right now we live in an age where the right wing is constantly creating new conspiracy theories. It's hard to see there being any validity to this argument.
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OhhhJa
12/06/19 12:53:21 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
It would matter, but it's a very insane conspiracy. This requires some of the most fucked up corruption I've heard accused at multiple levels and branches of government.

Right now we live in an age where the right wing is constantly creating new conspiracy theories. It's hard to see there being any validity to this argument.
Ahhh the old artificial right vs left battle as if that has fuck all to do with this lol. Do people still not realize the right vs left battle is propagated by the establishment?
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BlackScythe0
12/06/19 2:36:00 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
Ahhh the old artificial right vs left battle as if that has fuck all to do with this lol. Do people still not realize the right vs left battle is propagated by the establishment?
Klayman, who founded the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch, has filed several lawsuits in the past, including a "birther" lawsuit that falsely claimed former President Barack Obama couldn't be president because he wasn't a natural-born citizen.
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OhhhJa
12/06/19 3:06:55 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Klayman, who founded the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch, has filed several lawsuits in the past, including a "birther" lawsuit that falsely claimed former President Barack Obama couldn't be president because he wasn't a natural-born citizen.
And this has nothing to do with what I was saying. All it proves is that you're falling for shit like that like everyone that falls into the left right trap does
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Gaawa_chan
12/06/19 3:12:04 AM
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Oh god is there an enlightened centrist in here?

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OhhhJa
12/06/19 3:12:34 AM
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And you could argue that the Russian investigation into trump is pretty equally based on conspiracy and cold war era paranoia since the investigation turned up exactly nothing and then the narrative shifted to obstruction of justice. Imagine if the establishment had launched an investigation into Obama's birth
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OhhhJa
12/06/19 3:14:10 AM
#64:


Gaawa_chan posted...
Oh god is there an enlightened centrist in here?
No I'm far from a centrist. But I know the establishment gameplan is divide and conquer. They want morons like you fighting about where you align politically while they bend you over a barrel
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Gaawa_chan
12/06/19 3:20:52 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
No I'm far from a centrist. But I know the establishment gameplan is divide and conquer.
Yeah, it's all part and parcel of RIGHT politics, which is what the establishment is and has been for at least thirty years now. The New Democrats are aligned with the Right, not the Left, which is why they have no interest in policy, only posturing and process.

And don't whine and snivel to me about divisiveness being the game of the establishment when the most unifying people running for the presidency right now are decidedly on the Left.
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OhhhJa
12/06/19 3:30:50 AM
#66:


Bernie is just more controlled opposition
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Revelation34
12/06/19 3:31:07 AM
#67:


OhhhJa posted...
the establishment


So hipster.
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OhhhJa
12/06/19 3:31:26 AM
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He made that obvious when he back Hillary last time around. He's full of shit
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OhhhJa
12/06/19 3:31:59 AM
#69:


Revelation34 posted...
So hipster.
Literally every post you make here is a joke
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Gaawa_chan
12/06/19 3:34:08 AM
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Yeah, do you have anything actually productive to add or are you just being a political edgelord? Who are you backing then? CIA's lapdog Buttigieg? Trump? Stein (lol)? Yang (LOL)? Or are you so enlightened that you don't do anything and just pat yourself on the back over how much better your politics are even as you contribute absolutely nothing at all?

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Rasmoh
12/06/19 3:51:55 AM
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There are still people that think Zimmerman is a murderer because he shot a guy who had mounted him and was beating the shit out of him? Was he supposed to just let Trayvon beat him to death?

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Gaawa_chan
12/06/19 3:58:15 AM
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Zimmerman's decision to stalk and approach Martin when he was given clear instructions not to do so is a clear indicator that he was out for blood/itching for a fight. Not first degree murder, no, but one could argue for second degree quite easily.

Even in the best case scenario it was at least voluntary manslaughter.

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Smarkil
12/06/19 4:02:36 AM
#73:


Gaawa_chan posted...
but one could argue for second degree quite easily

Evidently not since that was what he was charged with and acquitted from.

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Rasmoh
12/06/19 4:07:27 AM
#74:


Gaawa_chan posted...
Zimmerman's decision to stalk and approach Martin when he was given clear instructions not to do so is a clear indicator that he was out for blood/itching for a fight.

Being told not to by a dispatcher doesn't mean anything, they have no authority.

Confronting someone you suspect to be a burglar doesn't mean that you are out for blood. It's something Zimmerman was fully within his rights to do, even if it may not have been the wisest decision. Trayvon, however, was not within his rights to mount Zimmerman and start pummeling him.

It's funny that you mention manslaughter, because the charge was included in what Zimmerman was facing and they couldn't even get him on that.

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bulbinking
12/06/19 5:08:51 AM
#75:


Revelation34 posted...
Stalking somebody and then getting attacked in self defense is what actually happened. Also obviously they're not true since it's Zimmerman.

Beating somebody to a bloody pulp on the pavement because you think they are creeping on you is a 100% valid and justifiable response in the world you live in.

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LinkPizza
12/06/19 5:11:14 AM
#76:


bulbinking posted...
Revelation34 posted...
Zeus posted...
Considering that the court already cleared his actions as self-defense, your title is flat-out deceptive. And if his claims are true about the witness being swapped, that's some pretty serious shit.

Stalking somebody and then getting attacked in self defense is what actually happened. Also obviously they're not true since it's Zimmerman.

Beating somebody to a bloody pulp on the pavement because you think they are creeping on you is a 100% valid and justifiable response in the world you live in.

Might be better than the alternative. I've been watching a lot of crime documentaries lately. People go missing sometimes for not protecting themselves. Many have not been found. That's pretty scary...
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bulbinking
12/06/19 6:04:57 AM
#77:


LinkPizza posted...
Might be better than the alternative. I've been watching a lot of crime documentaries lately. People go missing sometimes for not protecting themselves. Many have not been found. That's pretty scary...

I could maybe understand that mentality if you grew up around and participated in violence and were expecting that people were out to jump you so you had to jump them first but were suddenly transplanted into a gated community due to delinquent behavior at school where people are more civilized and at least verbally confront people before attacking them to make sure things arent a misunderstanding as they recognize their are real world consequences for acting without thinking.

Oh wait...

I guess we shouldve judged things from the mentality of the person who broke the law instead of society as a whole. If we only did that all criminality turns into a simple matter of perspective so the person who ends up losing the most becomes the real victim in any situation!

Since one person is dead and the other is alive thats a clear cut case of who the real badguy is.

Is this how peoples logic works?

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OhhhJa
12/06/19 12:02:40 PM
#78:


bulbinking posted...
Beating somebody to a bloody pulp on the pavement because you think they are creeping on you is a 100% valid and justifiable response in the world you live in.
He's just another dude injecting his own version of events the way he pictures it happening in his mind. Thing is... the world is weird and things generally dont happen the way you imagine they will. Revelation wasnt there and neither were any other posters in this topic. A jury found him not guilty and that's that
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EvilMegas
12/06/19 12:08:12 PM
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Great topic. Everyone is doing the same bits they always do.

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OhhhJa
12/06/19 12:09:16 PM
#80:


EvilMegas posted...
Great topic. Everyone is doing the same bits they always do.
Cool post bra
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OhhhJa
12/06/19 12:10:14 PM
#81:


I love when some asshole thinks he knows better than a jury that actually has all the facts
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LinkPizza
12/06/19 12:12:48 PM
#82:


OhhhJa posted...
He's just another dude injecting his own version of events the way he pictures it happening in his mind. Thing is... the world is weird and things generally dont happen the way you imagine they will. Revelation wasnt there and neither were any other posters in this topic. A jury found him not guilty and that's that

Technically, the jury wasnt there, either, though... They are just like everyone else... except they get to choose... They have the facts, but we could probably gets those facts after the ruling...
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EvilMegas
12/06/19 12:16:03 PM
#83:


LinkPizza posted...
Technically, the jury wasnt there, either, though... They are just like everyone else... except they get to choose... They have the facts, but we could probably gets those facts after the ruling...

Yeah, what a weird take. It's not like the facts/evidence are a secret anymore. And the jury isn't infallible.

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Revelation34
12/06/19 12:37:53 PM
#84:


bulbinking posted...

Beating somebody to a bloody pulp on the pavement because you think they are creeping on you is a 100% valid and justifiable response in the world you live in.


It is when you're dealing with a racist.
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OhhhJa
12/06/19 1:21:46 PM
#85:


EvilMegas posted...
Yeah, what a weird take. It's not like the facts/evidence are a secret anymore. And the jury isn't infallible.
12 people actually in the courtroom unanimously agreed not guilty. But yeah, som message board guy is probably more informed

Revelation34 posted...
It is when you're dealing with a racist.
Because you can tell people are racist just by looking at them I guess? Just stop posting dude lol
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Revelation34
12/06/19 1:36:36 PM
#86:


OhhhJa posted...
12 people actually in the courtroom unanimously agreed not guilty. But yeah, som message board guy is probably more informed


They decided stalking black people is perfectly okay.
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OhhhJa
12/06/19 1:43:49 PM
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Obviously you've never heard the call he made because he didnt even know he was black when he started following him. But anyway, that's beside the point because you were arguing that it's ok to beat people to pulp if they're racist which would be implying martin somehow knew he was being approached by a vicious racist and, if I recall correctly, the FBI decided that there was no evidence that Zimmerman was motivated by race
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EvilMegas
12/06/19 2:09:01 PM
#88:


OhhhJa posted...
12 people actually in the courtroom unanimously agreed not guilty

EvilMegas posted...
the jury isn't infallible.



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OhhhJa
12/06/19 2:14:10 PM
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Cool story. I'm still gonna assume the jury that was actually in the courtroom has has a better idea of how things happened than anyone on this board
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Revelation34
12/06/19 2:15:16 PM
#90:


OhhhJa posted...
Obviously you've never heard the call he made because he didnt even know he was black when he started following him. But anyway, that's beside the point because you were arguing that it's ok to beat people to pulp if they're racist which would be implying martin somehow knew he was being approached by a vicious racist and, if I recall correctly, the FBI decided that there was no evidence that Zimmerman was motivated by race


He knew since he was being stalked. No other reason to stalk a black person.
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OhhhJa
12/06/19 2:16:53 PM
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Pretty much everyone's arguments as to why he is a murderous monster is their own version of what they imagine happened usually with the addition of, "he's definitely super racist." All speculation. Dude is basically paul blart but I'm still not gonna act like I was hiding somewhere in the bushes watching this take place like everyone else here
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OhhhJa
12/06/19 2:17:31 PM
#92:


Revelation34 posted...
He knew since he was being stalked. No other reason to stalk a black person.
Smh ok dude
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Rasmoh
12/06/19 2:19:06 PM
#93:


Revelation34 posted...
They decided stalking black people is perfectly okay.

Even the black juror involved? Interesting.

I'm beginning to think you're deliberately misrepresenting a neighborhood watch captain following a suspected criminal to push your agenda.

Considering that you think it's acceptable to beat someone to death because you suspect they might have racially profiled someone, I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

EvilMegas posted...
the jury isn't infallible.

Neither are the infinite internet crime scene investigators who think Zimmerman is a murderer despite all evidence to the contrary.

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OhhhJa
12/06/19 2:29:10 PM
#94:


Also, I'll never forget how desperate the media was to fan the flames. First they said he was white (because they figured people wouldnt care if it wasnt an evil white man) and then I think it was CNN that edited the fucking phone call to try to make it sound like he said the n word. I'd be willing to bet a lot of people still think he was a white dude. Lol the whole thing was a shit show. He should be suing CNN really
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BlackScythe0
12/06/19 2:32:33 PM
#95:


EvilMegas posted...
Yeah, what a weird take. It's not like the facts/evidence are a secret anymore. And the jury isn't infallible.

The jury didn't have an option, as the law was written they could not find him guilty.
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WebsandWigs
12/06/19 2:48:51 PM
#96:


OhhhJa posted...
Pretty much everyone's arguments as to why he is a murderous monster is their own version of what they imagine happened usually with the addition of, "he's definitely super racist." All speculation. Dude is basically paul blart but I'm still not gonna act like I was hiding somewhere in the bushes watching this take place like everyone else here

Alot of people in high places need the false narrative of Zimmerman being a murdering racist alive to push their own globalist agenda. Im glad more people are waking up to it, though. Shows they wont be getting away with it for long.

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WebsandWigs
12/06/19 2:50:05 PM
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@OhhhJa OhhhJa posted...
Also, I'll never forget how desperate the media was to fan the flames. First they said he was white (because they figured people wouldnt care if it wasnt an evil white man) and then I think it was CNN that edited the fucking phone call to try to make it sound like he said the n word. I'd be willing to bet a lot of people still think he was a white dude. Lol the whole thing was a shit show. He should be suing CNN really

It was NBC who edited the call. The guy who did it even got fired. https://www.yahoo.com/news/blogs/upshot/nbc-fires-producer-over-edited-zimmerman-911-call-201124740.html

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Metalsonic66
12/06/19 5:14:03 PM
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*popcorn *

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Revelation34
12/06/19 5:16:04 PM
#99:


OhhhJa posted...
Also, I'll never forget how desperate the media was to fan the flames. First they said he was white (because they figured people wouldnt care if it wasnt an evil white man) and then I think it was CNN that edited the fucking phone call to try to make it sound like he said the n word. I'd be willing to bet a lot of people still think he was a white dude. Lol the whole thing was a shit show. He should be suing CNN really


Zimmerman is half white.
WebsandWigs posted...


Alot of people in high places need the false narrative of Zimmerman being a murdering racist alive to push their own globalist agenda. Im glad more people are waking up to it, though. Shows they wont be getting away with it for long.


Lol.
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Zareth
12/06/19 5:31:34 PM
#100:


Revelation34 posted...


Zimmerman is half white.
And your point is?

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OhhhJa
12/06/19 5:59:13 PM
#101:


Zareth posted...
And your point is?
Have you read his posts? He doesnt have one. I almost feel like he's a kyuubi alt
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