Current Events > George Zimmerman sues family of Trayvon Martin, publisher, prosecutors

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UnfairRepresent posted...

You act like Zimmerman is trying to draw attention to himself

Well, he is with the whole selling of the gun and going to gun shows to sign autographs.

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How is this dude still alive?

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Villain posted...

Well, he is with the whole selling of the gun and going to gun shows to sign autographs.

Zimmerman is millions in debt, unhirable by any company and harrased daily, he's been driven from his family and literally after enduring this for years he does things that can get him some cash, you draw attention to it, then use it to insult him and claim he is trying to spotlight himself.

That's insane

Zimmerman isn't going to gun shows or selling his shit because he wants too, he's not looking for news articles, he's been paraded around enough already to the point his sanity is shot. He's just looking for money because he's millions in debt.

Again it's Shrek. You're sending groups men with pitchforks to harras him for years and then say "Shrek does this to himself, look at how he yelled at that Donkey!"

I mean I really don't get what you say Zimmerman should do in your book.

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He autographs Skittles bags.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

You act like Zimmerman is trying to draw attention to himself and not that people won't leave him alone on top of ruining his life

https://theblast.com/george-zimmerman-threatens-jay-z-violence-trayvon-martin-documentary/

https://www.newsweek.com/george-zimmerman-timeline-trayvon-martin-459300
https://www.cnn.com/2014/02/05/showbiz/zimmerman-dmx-boxing-match/index.html

Yeah, he's not trying to draw attention to himself


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Bishop9800 posted...

https://theblast.com/george-zimmerman-threatens-jay-z-violence-trayvon-martin-documentary/

So you're argument for him seeking the limelight rather than people seeking him is someone else making a documentary about him, harrasing his parents and him being interviewed and saying he is mad they harrased his parents?

Yeah that sums it up

Even the boxing one is "someone else arranged a boxing event for charity and asked Zimmerman if he would do it, he said yes."

But we both know you didn't read those articles. You don't read anything.

Hell you've ignored every point I made all topic but jumped on that one because it's the first and only one you thought you had a counter for. And you dont.

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Also want to nail into the ground the intentional fact that the anti-Zimmerman camp have furiously moved the goalposts from "I can't actually point at any evidence, facts or counter any points but he's a murderer because I really really want him to be."

To "Well he likes media attention!"

Which is still wrong for the record but shows the mindset.

It really is on par with a religion at this point. The reality is irrelevant to the belief.

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Take your own advice.

Either actually retort or go away. Hanging around insulting people because you have nothing to contribute just shows a lack of restraint and intelligence on your part.

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And you still haven't presented any thought or opinion or counter point in the entire topic.

Which says it all really.

You can't back up a single point or opinion or view you have. You know you are wrong and lying intentionally. But you like it

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shockthemonkey posted...

lmao hes still going

His "religion" is telling him to

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UnfairRepresent posted...

And you still haven't presented any thought or opinion or counter point in the entire topic.

Which says it all really.

You can't back up a single point or opinion or view you have. You know you are wrong and lying intentionally. But you like it

Just shut the fuck up

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https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/1202292552071819269

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shockthemonkey posted...

But guys, if UR doesnt defend the piece of shit who stalked an unarmed teenager than who will?!

His lawyers, who successfully defended him in court?

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Without reading all of this, why is Zimmerman suing the family?

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"Yeah the whole "He was no angel" thing is just a pathetic justification."

"Oh shit, we murdered a teenager who didn't deserve death, what do we do? Ahhh... Ahhh...., Oh wait! He was occasionally unruly! So it was absolutely justified to kill him, that's the ticket..."

Remember that bullshit being used in another scenario as well. Dude smoked weed and robbed a store(Which is absolutely bad don't get me wrong, but not worthy of death), but the cop who killed him didn't know that at the time so they were bringing up bullshit after the fact.

Point is that if you're going to suggest a lack of sainthood deserves death, then anyone who isn't a newborn, by that """logic""" , should die.

Also, I'm reminded of another incident where some white kid raped this drunk girl and it was "Oh, don't ruin his life over a moment of fun! He's so sad now!"




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HelloImaPC posted...

Without reading all of this, why is Zimmerman suing the family?

From what I understand, he's saying his trial was a complete sham and based on testimony which was "coached" from the witness who supposedly wrote a letter to the family... but couldn't read the letter out loud to the court because it was in cursive and she couldn't read cursive. Pretty sure the lawsuit mostly targets the prosecution, but includes the family because fo things they said on talk shows or some shit.

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ultimate reaver posted...

https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/1202292552071819269

B b but Zimmerman isn't trying to draw attention to himself!!!

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Umbreon posted...

"Yeah the whole "He was no angel" thing is just a pathetic justification."

"Oh shit, we murdered a teenager who didn't deserve death, what do we do? Ahhh... Ahhh...., Oh wait! He was occasionally unruly! So it was absolutely justified to kill him, that's the ticket..."

Remember that bullshit being used in another scenario as well. Dude smoked weed and robbed a store(Which is absolutely bad don't get me wrong, but not worthy of death), but the cop who killed him didn't know that at the time so they were bringing up bullshit after the fact.

Point is that if you're going to suggest a lack of sainthood deserves death, then anyone who isn't a newborn, by that """logic""" , should die.

Also, I'm reminded of another incident where some white kid raped this drunk girl and it was "Oh, don't ruin his life over a moment of fun! He's so sad now!"

A few things-

I don't know that anyone has said "he deserves death" because he smoked weed. He was shot, not because he was high, but because he was ground and pounding the dude according to evidence, bruising, etc. and the guy feared for himself. The weed thing is a smear and likely in response to the people claiming he was an innocent angel to make the case look worse.

If someone said he deserves death because of weed, they're awful people.

The Stanford swimmer quote you gave was from his mother. Of COURSE she's biased and only cares about her son's feelings. People love to point to that one judge being awful as some big "gotcha" moment to say sexual assault isn't properly punished (just look- you're bringing it up now 3 years later). Oh, and that judge was immediately removed.

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Umbreon posted...

"Yeah the whole "He was no angel" thing is just a pathetic justification."

"Oh shit, we murdered a teenager who didn't deserve death, what do we do? Ahhh... Ahhh...., Oh wait! He was occasionally unruly! So it was absolutely justified to kill him, that's the ticket..."

Trayvon was not murdered.

He attacked Zimmerman had him mounted and helpless and was punching him in the face as the back of his skull smashed concrete, blood poured into eyes and down his throat, he was struggling to breathe and pleading for mercy while Trayvon added "You're going to die tonight!"

No one is saying Trayvon "deserved to die". Trayvon's death is a tragedy, most deaths are especially of under 18s but it's not Zimmerman's fault. Trayvon attacked him and was trying to kill him.

This is self-defense 101.

I mean literally this is the kind of hypothetical scenario you would come up with to explain the very concept of self-defense. It's so utterly cut and dry

You are being dishonest as hell here. You're arguing that not letting a man literally beat you to death in the street for no reason is akin to saying that man deserves death.

Zimmerman didn't even want to kill Trayvon, he thought Trayvon was still alive and tried to restrain him until police arrived.

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Oh goodness. He's saying the same talking points.

I'm out. >_>

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Anyone who actually followed the story, the court case and knows the facts says the same talking points. They are pretty ironclad.

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Matelite posted...

A few things-

I don't know that anyone has said "he deserves death" because he smoked weed. He was shot, not because he was high, but because he was ground and pounding the dude according to evidence, bruising, etc. and the guy feared for himself. The weed thing is a smear and likely in response to the people claiming he was an innocent angel to make the case look worse.

If someone said he deserves death because of weed, they're awful people.

The Stanford swimmer quote you gave was from his mother. Of COURSE she's biased and only cares about her son's feelings. People love to point to that one judge being awful as some big "gotcha" moment to say sexual assault isn't properly punished (just look- you're bringing it up now 3 years later). Oh, and that judge was immediately removed.

the he's no angel thing is about people flipping through the pasts of black people whenever a situation like this occurs. Him smoking weed became "he was a drug dealer", him getting into fights sometimes at school became him being a loose cannon badass street fighter, etc etc etc. and somehow not just dumb shit teenagers get into. Basically any justification possible to deflect from the situation itself via character attacks.

it happens in just about any high profile case of this nature and the people who utilize it have started to filter the tactic into other stuff they troll about online. i dont know how you missed this because it is incredibly visible

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metallica846 posted...

Dude why do people keep bring up the "he was no angel so he deserved to die" lies? Yes he was no angel, but he did get in lots of fights. Ok? Ok. So if Zimmerman says he was attacked and beaten pretty badly as the phtotos showed, then one might think that someone who has been prone to violence in the past MAYYYYY have been violent towards Zimmerman. Then come the well he was following him people! Ok? So Trayvon jumped the guy following him. He thought he was in possible danger.....so he attacked the person who he was afraid of instead of running the hell away like most people would.

Of course it's fucked up that Trayvon was killed, but the "he was a child who could do no harm" line is kinda flimsy. These same arguments have been happening since the verdict and will continue probably forever.

Just to add some facts to this:

Trayvon did run away and get away. He got home safe and sound.

Zimmerman was heading back to his car with no clue where Trayvon was.
Trayvon then left his home, ran back after Zimmerman, followed him, hid behind a bush, jumped out and ambushed him.

The whole notion that Zimmerman provoked anything or that Trayvon's assault was reactionary is an incorrect one. It was pre-meditated by Trayvon. He wanted a confrontation.

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ultimate reaver posted...

the he's no angel thing is about people flipping through the pasts of black people whenever a situation like this occurs. Him smoking weed became "he was a drug dealer", him getting into fights sometimes at school became him being a loose cannon badass street fighter, etc etc etc. and somehow not just dumb shit teenagers get into. Basically any justification possible to deflect from the situation itself via character attacks.

it happens in just about any high profile case of this nature and the people who utilize it have started to filter the tactic into other stuff they troll about online. i dont know how you missed this because it is incredibly visible

You mean like this?

ultimate reaver posted...

https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/1202292552071819269

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shockthemonkey posted...
He gets stuck in this cycle of bullshit every time this topic comes up, he cant help himself

Name 1 thing I said that was bullshit.

And he was never seen again

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Matelite posted...

You mean like this?

there is a very large difference between being called violent and dangerous because you get in stupid fights with kids at school and smoke weed and being called violent and dangerous because you are repeatedly arrested for violent crime, but then again, you know that

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Imagine being scummy enough to blame Trevon
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shockthemonkey posted...

Someone being arrested multiple times because their girlfriends allege abuse after he killed a teenager is not the same as finding dirt on a teenager who was killed.

Kinda is really.
They're both attacks on character.

Which is irrelevant to the inicident.

Zimmerman could blow up all of China tomorrow and while he would be guilty of genocide, he still wouldn't have murdered Trayvon Martin.

Whether or not Zimmerman and Trayvon are good people is completely irrelevant. The issue was whether Zimmerman broke any laws that night. He did not. Trayvon broke several.

ultimate reaver posted...

there is a very large difference between being called violent and dangerous because you get in stupid fights with kids at school and smoke weed and being called violent and dangerous because you are repeatedly arrested for violent crime, but then again, you know that

Intellectual dishonesty. The point isn't saying they are equal events, the point is that they are irrelevant to whether the shooting was self-defense or murder.

Trayvon being a violent drug dealer and Zimmerman being a bad driver and dodgy boyfriend have zero bearing on that.

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america took his side in murdering an innocent child,and this is the end result.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Trayvon did run away and get away. He got home safe and sound.

Zimmerman was heading back to his car with no clue where Trayvon was.
Trayvon then left his home, ran back after Zimmerman, followed him, hid behind a bush, jumped out and ambushed him.

Can you show me where you got this information from?

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What part of that was bullshit?

What do you disagree with?

What point are you making?

All you seem to do is evade and insult. You can't actually articulate a thought.

And that's disturbing when you're arguing that a man should let himself be beaten to death

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HelloImaPC posted...

Can you show me where you got this information from?

The court case. I followed it. I think I am literally the only one on CE who followed this story right from it's inception when it was a local Florida story only and the police dropped it as a blatantly open and shut case before it got media attention and was reopened later.

It's public record. I highly suggest you look it up. You'll quickly see most of the things people like Shock and his kind repeat are flat out falsehoods.


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UnfairRepresent posted...

The court case. I followed it. I think I am literally the only one on CE who followed this story right from it's inception when it was a local Florida story only and the police dropped it as a blatantly open and shut case before it got media attention and was reopened later.

It's public record. I highly suggest you look it up. You'll quickly see most of the things people like Shock and his kind repeat are flat out falsehoods.

You couldn't have followed it, because at no time did they say Trayvon made it home and went back out.

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Zimmerman literally stalked, confronted, and then killed an unarmed 17 year old kid because he "thought he looked suspicious", in his own words.

While maybe not murder, that is just some asshole with an axe to grind looking for a fight. When he got his fight, he shot the guy. It is not his job, in any way, to confront and then murder a kid. Did he have ANY evidence this kid was breaking in anywhere? Did the kid have anything suspicious on him?

Or was he just a black kid in a gated community and some asshole decided he looked suspicious, literally chased him down, and when the kid defended himself from this threat, got shot for it.

Fuck anyone who is going to defend these actions. If it was a cop who shot the kid on these flimsy grounds, these same assholes who are defending Zimmerman would call for that cop to be fired out of a cannon.

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I like how UnfairRepresent made bullshit claims about me and I responded to them and provided him with an example of something he said I couldn't provide an example of, followed by "and he was never seen again" and he neglected to respond.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

If it was a cop who shot the kid on these flimsy grounds, these same assholes who are defending Zimmerman would call for that cop to be fired out of a cannon.

You kidding? These people are absolutely boot lickers.

"Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6!"

"Blue lives matter!"

...Or was that before the cop apologists came out? It's been so tragically long....

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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

Zimmerman literally stalked, confronted, and then killed an unarmed 17 year old kid because he "thought he looked suspicious", in his own words.

While maybe not murder, that is just some asshole with an axe to grind looking for a fight. When he got his fight, he shot the guy. It is not his job, in any way, to confront and then murder a kid. Did he have ANY evidence this kid was breaking in anywhere? Did the kid have anything suspicious on him?

Or was he just a black kid in a gated community and some asshole decided he looked suspicious, literally chased him down, and when the kid defended himself from this threat, got shot for it.

Fuck anyone who is going to defend these actions. If it was a cop who shot the kid on these flimsy grounds, these same assholes who are defending Zimmerman would call for that cop to be fired out of a cannon.

Nah, they'd find a way to defend that too.

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Machete posted...

I responded to UnfairRepresent

And what have you learned about doing that?


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Hanky_Bannister posted...

Imagine being scummy enough to blame Trevon

My first introduction to this board was right around that time.....it was insane. I went into a topic saying a girl probably started the fight since apparently it was okay to say someone started the fight and I got warned. Shit was wild.

But yah I havent read anything here but back then it was like 99% blaming Trayvon here

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