Current Events > A 60 year-old programmer is worth way more to me than some young kid out of

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college or even a mid-career person.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/older-it-workers-left-out-despite-tech-talent-shortage-11574683200

These people worked with constraints you cannot even imagine.

They are the greybeards.

I heed them and still respect them.

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lol fuckin boomers

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nvm 60 is not boomer

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Yeah, and that's kind of the issue. They're more expensive. They know they're valuable so you can't abuse them.


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MrK3V posted...

nvm 60 is not boomer

Yeah, it is.

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You programming in Pascal?

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MrK3V posted...

nvm 60 is not boomer

It is
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age discrimination in tech is disgusting

boomers are incredibly competent developers that can operate at both high and low levels of abstraction
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Boomers are until 1964 though

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How are you guys gonna let this topic end that way smh

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Come, let them show you the ways of malloc and free. Be released from the chains that bind you to the unreliable nature of garbage collection. Be amazed as minor changes to recursive functions give you a tenfold improvement in efficiency. Watch in awe as they architect a system that actually works as designed instead of making it up as they go.

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There is definitely discrimination, but I wouldn't hand out respect like candy either. Some are set in their ways and got too comfortable being the senior tech at some dusty corp and stopped growing their skills decades ago.
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i wonder how much of this is due to rapidly changing trends in tech. these days, so much of IT now is reliant on managed service providers, The Cloud, etc.

as a result you can run pretty lean, you don't need a big onsite IT team. just the guys to keep the lights on, someone to administrate the systems, and then for the rest you can hire consultants or partners as needed (esp since most software these days has an API so they can all connect nicely together).

i havent been in the industry too long but imo it seems like the hot new IT roles of the future are going to be more focused on the process end, working with cross-functional teams etc.
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Romulox28 posted...

i wonder how much of this is due to rapidly changing trends in tech. these days, so much of IT now is reliant on managed service providers, The Cloud, etc.

as a result you can run pretty lean, you don't need a big onsite IT team. just the guys to keep the lights on, someone to administrate the systems, and then for the rest you can hire consultants or partners as needed (esp since most software these days has an API so they can all connect nicely together).

i havent been in the industry too long but imo it seems like the hot new IT roles of the future are going to be more focused on the process end, working with cross-functional teams etc.

This is certainly the case in FinTech.

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Romulox28 posted...

i wonder how much of this is due to rapidly changing trends in tech. these days, so much of IT now is reliant on managed service providers, The Cloud, etc.

as a result you can run pretty lean, you don't need a big onsite IT team. just the guys to keep the lights on, someone to administrate the systems, and then for the rest you can hire consultants or partners as needed (esp since most software these days has an API so they can all connect nicely together).

i havent been in the industry too long but imo it seems like the hot new IT roles of the future are going to be more focused on the process end, working with cross-functional teams etc.

Presumably the TC is talking about actual developers, AKA the people that write all the stuff that IT services manage. Either that, or they have a boutique use case (like needing to be off network) which causes a lot of these convenience options to fall through.

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http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/unix-koans/recruiter.html

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