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SwayM
11/19/19 5:15:19 PM
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People really wanted this game to fail.

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SomeLikeItHoth
11/19/19 5:16:23 PM
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Same with Pokemon Sword / Shield. I'm 9 hours in with one gym badge. Great game.
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SwayM
11/19/19 5:20:33 PM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
Same with Pokemon Sword / Shield. I'm 9 hours in with one gym badge. Great game.


Gonna go the other way on this one.

wish Pokmon would fail so they would take a step back and spend all the money it makes on making the game we all deserve

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MabusIncarnate
11/20/19 2:11:17 AM
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It's awesome, i'm enjoying it so much. I wish I had more time to play but I feel like i'm pretty deep.

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SwayM
11/20/19 2:23:27 AM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
It's awesome, i'm enjoying it so much. I wish I had more time to play but I feel like i'm pretty deep.


How far are you. I basically just got to Kashyyyk

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iPhone_7
11/20/19 2:24:45 AM
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Is it anything like The Force Unleashed games? Because they were just ok.
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SwayM
11/20/19 2:32:49 AM
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iPhone_7 posted...
Is it anything like The Force Unleashed games? Because they were just ok.


I feel like those games were just physics tech demo's with a really shitty story tacked on.

This game takes a lot of inspiration from truly great games and pays homage well, and the story is quite interesting.

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OctilIery
11/20/19 2:33:21 AM
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iPhone_7 posted...
Is it anything like The Force Unleashed games? Because they were just ok.

Absolutely not. The plot is more grounded, the combat is more difficult and skill focused, the force powers are subdued.
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creativerealms
11/20/19 2:36:57 AM
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It's not that people wanted Fallen Order to fail, it's that people have zero faith in EA. For good reasons.
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Touch
11/20/19 2:37:03 AM
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Yep yep. Lots of games lately I can only play in spurts but this game is the first in a while where I really look forward to continuing. Cal isn't the most compelling protag but other than that and the cosmetics I don't have much complaints.

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TendoDRM
11/20/19 2:38:14 AM
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creativerealms posted...
It's not that people wanted Fallen Order to fail, it's that people have zero faith in EA. For good reasons.

But it's Respawn. They haven't failed yet.
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SwayM
11/20/19 2:42:06 AM
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creativerealms posted...
It's not that people wanted Fallen Order to fail, it's that people have zero faith in EA. For good reasons.


No. I legit seen a lot of negative shit on Reddit that basically amounted for people wanting this game to fail.

And even if it is an "EA" thing, it just goes to show you how dismissive people are to wish ill to truly great games by really good developers, just because theyre under the EA banner.

Touch posted...
Yep yep. Lots of games lately I can only play in spurts but this game is the first in a while where I really look forward to continuing. Cal isn't the most compelling protag but other than that and the cosmetics I don't have much complaints.


I dig the fact that you have a dorky redhead as a protagonist. I've seen comments saying how bland and boring he is but IMHO it's actually interesting that you literally never see a protagonist like this in anything. It's worth taking note of I think

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pres_madagascar
11/20/19 2:44:29 AM
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SwayM posted...
How far are you. I basically just got to Kashyyyk
You go to each planet twice, FYI.

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Kolibri X
11/20/19 2:47:07 AM
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Cool. I'm glad its good but I'm in no rush to give EA my money. I'll pick it up used next year.
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OctilIery
11/20/19 2:50:41 AM
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Kolibri X posted...
Cool. I'm glad its good but I'm in no rush to give EA my money. I'll pick it up used next year.

This is such a bad mindset. Refusing to spend money on principal is good until you continue doing it after the company actually addresses the issues, as they have here.
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Irony
11/20/19 2:54:03 AM
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I guess an 81 is fantastic

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Chicken
11/20/19 2:55:08 AM
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I cant unsee Gothams Joker in the main character. Takes me out of it a bit.
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SwayM
11/20/19 2:56:13 AM
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OctilIery posted...
This is such a bad mindset. Refusing to spend money on principal is good until you continue doing it after the company actually addresses the issues, as they have here.


I agree.

Not supporting the really good games they produce based on a flawed principle is only hurting yourself.

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OctilIery
11/20/19 2:57:23 AM
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Chicken posted...
I cant unsee Gothams Joker in the main character. Takes me out of it a bit.

LOL that was the first thing my girlfriend said
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MabusIncarnate
11/20/19 2:58:53 AM
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SwayM posted...
How far are you. I basically just got to Kashyyyk
About halfway through the next part after Kashyyyk
That planet is about where the game really drew me in, great mission, a lot of good enemies.

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pres_madagascar
11/20/19 2:59:18 AM
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Irony posted...
I guess an 81 is fantastic
81 is good. What world do you live in where an 8/10 or 80/100 is a bad score?

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Kolibri X
11/20/19 2:59:19 AM
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OctilIery posted...
Kolibri X posted...
Cool. I'm glad its good but I'm in no rush to give EA my money. I'll pick it up used next year.

This is such a bad mindset. Refusing to spend money on principal is good until you continue doing it after the company actually addresses the issues, as they have here.

They'll be fine.
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MabusIncarnate
11/20/19 2:59:32 AM
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Chicken posted...
I cant unsee Gothams Joker in the main character. Takes me out of it a bit.
Have you ever watched Shameless? Going from a Jedi to that character for the last 3 seasons is a bit challenging also, lol.

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SwayM
11/20/19 3:00:06 AM
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Kolibri X posted...
They'll be fine.


Continue to miss good games then. No skin off anyone's back but your own.

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pres_madagascar
11/20/19 3:00:46 AM
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All of the characters are modeled after and voiced by known actors. Forest goddamn Whitaker is in it. Cere is the boss agent from suicide squad.


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MabusIncarnate
11/20/19 3:03:11 AM
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OctilIery posted...
This is such a bad mindset. Refusing to spend money on principal is good until you continue doing it after the company actually addresses the issues, as they have here.
This also, I agree completely. People backlashed and spoke out, EA listened and did exactly what everyone was asking for with this game. Boycotting them still is shitty.

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OctilIery
11/20/19 3:03:20 AM
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Kolibri X posted...
OctilIery posted...
Kolibri X posted...
Cool. I'm glad its good but I'm in no rush to give EA my money. I'll pick it up used next year.

This is such a bad mindset. Refusing to spend money on principal is good until you continue doing it after the company actually addresses the issues, as they have here.

They'll be fine.

Keep up the toxic mentality then.
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Irony
11/20/19 3:04:27 AM
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OctilIery posted...
Keep up the toxic mentality then.
Irony

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OctilIery
11/20/19 3:07:38 AM
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Irony posted...
OctilIery posted...
Keep up the toxic mentality then.
Irony

That's not irony.
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Kolibri X
11/20/19 3:10:47 AM
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SwayM posted...
Kolibri X posted...
They'll be fine.


Continue to miss good games then. No skin off anyone's back but your own.

I just told you I'll be buying it when its 10 bucks next year. Wierd how upset you guys are getting over someone not buying a new game... star wars fan I guess.
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OctilIery
11/20/19 3:24:19 AM
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Kolibri X posted...
SwayM posted...
Kolibri X posted...
They'll be fine.


Continue to miss good games then. No skin off anyone's back but your own.

I just told you I'll be buying it when its 10 bucks next year. Wierd how upset you guys are getting over someone not buying a new game... star wars fan I guess.

It's not you saying you're going to wait to buy it, it's you saying you aren't getting it now because of EA's previous mistakes, despite them addressing those mistakes with this.
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Kolibri X
11/20/19 3:50:43 AM
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OctilIery posted...
Kolibri X posted...
SwayM posted...
Kolibri X posted...
They'll be fine.


Continue to miss good games then. No skin off anyone's back but your own.

I just told you I'll be buying it when its 10 bucks next year. Wierd how upset you guys are getting over someone not buying a new game... star wars fan I guess.

It's not you saying you're going to wait to buy it, it's you saying you aren't getting it now because of EA's previous mistakes, despite them addressing those mistakes with this.

Getting thrown a bone hardly makes up for all of EA's "mistakes" imo. I'm not that easily manipulated. But buy the game and enjoy it. I'm not saying you shouldn't, but you're barking up the wrong tree. If EA never publishes another good star wars game ever again I wouldn't give a shit.
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Darmik
11/20/19 4:32:01 AM
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Chicken posted...
I cant unsee Gothams Joker in the main character. Takes me out of it a bit.


I gave him a purple hilt and a green saber to reference his past.
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pres_madagascar
11/20/19 4:44:21 AM
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Darmik posted...
I gave him a purple hilt and a green saber to reference his past.
Well, to be fair, purple is objectively the coolest saber color anyway.

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spikethedevil
11/20/19 4:48:57 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
Darmik posted...
I gave him a purple hilt and a green saber to reference his past.
Well, to be fair, purple is objectively the coolest saber color anyway.


@pres_madagascar Purple hilt not blade.

Yea really enjoying it so far.
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St0rmFury
11/20/19 5:00:15 AM
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OctilIery posted...
Kolibri X posted...
SwayM posted...
Kolibri X posted...
They'll be fine.


Continue to miss good games then. No skin off anyone's back but your own.

I just told you I'll be buying it when its 10 bucks next year. Wierd how upset you guys are getting over someone not buying a new game... star wars fan I guess.

It's not you saying you're going to wait to buy it, it's you saying you aren't getting it now because of EA's previous mistakes, despite them addressing those mistakes with this.

Gonna take more than 1 good game for EA to make up for their past sins.
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MabusIncarnate
11/20/19 5:05:15 AM
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Wipe your tears and move on

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OctilIery
11/20/19 6:19:17 AM
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St0rmFury posted...
OctilIery posted...
Kolibri X posted...
SwayM posted...
Kolibri X posted...
They'll be fine.


Continue to miss good games then. No skin off anyone's back but your own.

I just told you I'll be buying it when its 10 bucks next year. Wierd how upset you guys are getting over someone not buying a new game... star wars fan I guess.

It's not you saying you're going to wait to buy it, it's you saying you aren't getting it now because of EA's previous mistakes, despite them addressing those mistakes with this.

Gonna take more than 1 good game for EA to make up for their past sins.

Nobody is saying they've made up for it. However, "vote with your wallet" goes both ways, and means when a company with past issues does good, you should support them. Continuing to boycott them at this point is bad form.
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Offworlder1
11/20/19 6:36:57 AM
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Jedi Fallen Order is a good game because Respawn did not bow or cave to EA's usual bullshit, EA wanted this game to fail so they could make "games as a service", and "no SP, just MP" games and this game was the "EA wins and fucks everything they own by making them MP only going forward" or "Single Player proves to be extremely valuable to gamers and EA loses".
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EverDownward
11/20/19 6:42:44 AM
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I believe in rewarding good behavior, so I bought this game day one and have been enjoying it ever since. It's awesome to feel validated, I wanted this game to be good so much and it feels good knowing that it is.
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AvantgardeAClue
11/20/19 6:44:18 AM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
Same with Pokemon Sword / Shield. I'm 9 hours in with one gym badge. Great game.


Let's not get too crazy now
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lww99
11/20/19 6:54:03 AM
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OctilIery
11/20/19 7:06:41 AM
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Offworlder1 posted...
Jedi Fallen Order is a good game because Respawn did not bow or cave to EA's usual bullshit, EA wanted this game to fail so they could make "games as a service", and "no SP, just MP" games and this game was the "EA wins and fucks everything they own by making them MP only going forward" or "Single Player proves to be extremely valuable to gamers and EA loses".

Has there been any evidence that EA tried to screw the game up?
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Guide
11/20/19 7:10:04 AM
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Surprised and glad that it's doing so well. The early news was so pessimistic, but it looks great.

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1NfamousACE_2
11/20/19 7:14:23 AM
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How much gameplay does it have? I really don't wanna buy it, would prefer to redbox it but I would need to beat it within like 3-4 days

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Offworlder1
11/20/19 7:28:33 AM
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@OctilIery

I believe they wanted to add some kind of microtransactions at some point based on how all their other SW games have had them and how Respawn seemed to be fighting to keep the game as they wanted to make it. There is nothing official but there has been talk that behind the scenes EA was trying or wanted to fuck with JFO but Respawn stood firm and refused to let them fuck up their game as that was when the article of "no loot boxes, no microtransactions" came out and people were saying EA only did that as a way of saying "fine make the game your way".
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Taharqa_
11/20/19 7:45:34 AM
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This game having success is EA's nightmare. EA dove in head first into the multiplayer, microtransaction, loot box era this generation at the expense of single player games without all of that shit.

Big ups to Respawn by sticking to their vision for this game and not letting EA taint it. I bought Fallen Order when it launched but I haven't played it yet because I'm still on Death Stranding. I want to support developers like Respawn and CD Project Red.

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Kolibri X
11/20/19 7:47:17 AM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
How much gameplay does it have? I really don't wanna buy it, would prefer to redbox it but I would need to beat it within like 3-4 days

It's a 15 hour game by most accounts. Seems like a solid rental game.
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OctilIery
11/20/19 8:03:56 AM
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Offworlder1 posted...
@OctilIery

I believe they wanted to add some kind of microtransactions at some point based on how all their other SW games have had them and how Respawn seemed to be fighting to keep the game as they wanted to make it. There is nothing official but there has been talk that behind the scenes EA was trying or wanted to fuck with JFO but Respawn stood firm and refused to let them fuck up their game as that was when the article of "no loot boxes, no microtransactions" came out and people were saying EA only did that as a way of saying "fine make the game your way".

I 100% guarantee Respawn didn't refuse anything because Respawn doesn't have the power to refuse anything, given EA owns them. If anything, it's a case of EA talking about microtransactions, Respawn reasoning with them to allow a solid experience, and EA listening and giving it a chance.

On top of that, EA has not been the bastion of greed people make them out to be. Battlefront 2 was two years ago, and they've more than made good on their faults there, actually turning the game into a fantastic experience. They've done their games pass, which is an amazing deal and starting to catch on elsewhere. They've released multiple games with a solid singleplayer experience and no abusive microtransactions I the past few years, including Mirror's Edge, Titanfall 2, Unravel 1 and 2, and A Way Out. They haven't been perfect by any means, with Apex Legends having some controversy, but even there they're clearly trying to go for less predatory content(and lets be honest, as bad as its lootboxes were, they were still only cosmetic items in a free to play game). With Anthem they were clearly pushing for a new game platform that could let them monetize without hurting their consumer base, and I'd hardly put the failure of that(or Andromeda) on EA.

They've improved a ton. They still have a way to go, but they've clearly made an effort and should be acknowledged for it.
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Cobra1010
11/20/19 8:09:02 AM
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SwayM posted...
SomeLikeItHoth posted...
Same with Pokemon Sword / Shield. I'm 9 hours in with one gym badge. Great game.


Gonna go the other way on this one.

wish Pokmon would fail so they would take a step back and spend all the money it makes on making the game we all deserve


That's not gonna happen. All the money made went to the suits in the higher ups and investors. The money has all probably been spent on super yachts and high end prost *cough* models.
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