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Bluebomber182
11/16/19 7:46:26 AM
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Yeah I know the whole shoot someone on 5th avenue and not lose any support

Sad thing is that's the only time in his life where he told the truth
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Kami_no_Kami
11/16/19 8:03:25 AM
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Bio1590
11/16/19 9:25:52 AM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
Yeah I know the whole shoot someone on 5th avenue and not lose any support

Sad thing is that's the only time in his life where he told the truth

Yeah but again, one of Trump's lawyers actually argued that Trump couldn't be prosecuted while in office if he did shoot someone on Fifth Avenue.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/23/donald-trump-immune-shoot-fifth-avenue-murder
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Heineken14
11/16/19 10:14:55 AM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
I think Sondlands testimony next week will be quite different than his previous. Dude perjured himself, don't know if he'll want to again now that it's out in the open.


Guarantee the republicans go the Cohen route with him, that "he lied before so now anything he says doesn't count!"
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ViewtifulGrave
11/16/19 10:43:52 AM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
I legit think Trump could straight up murder someone in cold blood and Republicans would argue that murder shouldnt be a crime if Trump does it

Trump agrees with you.

https://youtu.be/rMmiLWDpCno
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darkjedilink
11/16/19 10:46:41 AM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
And despite all of this incriminating evidence, the Republican party will still defend him.

Fourth-degree hearsay isn't evidence in any way.
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Bluebomber182
11/16/19 10:51:36 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
And despite all of this incriminating evidence, the Republican party will still defend him.

Fourth-degree hearsay isn't evidence in any way.


Mick Mulvaney literally admitted that there was quid pro quo

And hearsay didnt mean shit when Trump was pushing the birther horseshit
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Thompson
11/16/19 11:00:14 AM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Fourth-degree hearsay isn't evidence in any way.
This isn't hearsay. This guy literally heard Trump talking to Sondland. Your gaslighting fails.

Trump insane logic: He personally heard Trump say it? Hearsay!
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Corrik7
11/16/19 11:01:12 AM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
This isn't hearsay. This guy literally heard Trump talking to Sondland. Your gaslighting fails.
This is called hearsay. He says he heard it. Unless evidence exists this was said then it is hearsay.

For example, people in this topic said that testimony means Sondland perjured himself.

Except... It is Sondland's word versus that guys in the scenario. Maybe it is the guy saying Sondland said this that is perjuring. Or maybe there is a discrepancy where both are right but think the other is wrong. Etc.

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Yelsin
11/16/19 11:08:34 AM
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Corrik7 posted...
This is called hearsay. He says he heard it. Unless evidence exists this was said then it is hearsay.


Nope.
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darkjedilink
11/16/19 11:11:27 AM
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Thompson posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Fourth-degree hearsay isn't evidence in any way.
This isn't hearsay. This guy literally heard Trump talking to Sondland. Your gaslighting fails.

Trump insane logic: He personally heard Trump say it? Hearsay!

No, he didn't. He heard someone say to him, that someone said to that guy, that this third person overheard the conversation.

Literally 4th-degree hearsay.
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Sariana21
11/16/19 11:12:00 AM
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sondast posted...
CADE FOSTER posted...
Dude only cares about Putin and Russia

Never forget.
Interviewer: How can you do business when American and European banks refuse to give you loans?
Eric Trump: Russia has all of the money we need.

Interesting word choice there (my bold).
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Bluebomber182
11/16/19 11:16:20 AM
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@darkjedilink Was Mulvaney lying? Yes or no
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UnholyMudcrab
11/16/19 11:17:41 AM
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thronedfire2
11/16/19 11:18:44 AM
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Anyone who wants to know why republicans have such a problem with hearsay and whistleblowers should read about the Tuskegee syphilis experiment

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Heineken14
11/16/19 11:23:27 AM
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Corrik7 posted...
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This is called hearsay. He says he heard it. Unless evidence exists this was said then it is hearsay.

For example, people in this topic said that testimony means Sondland perjured himself.

Except... It is Sondland's word versus that guys in the scenario. Maybe it is the guy saying Sondland said this that is perjuring. Or maybe there is a discrepancy where both are right but think the other is wrong. Etc.


That call isn't why people are saying soundland committed perjury. That was before we even found out about the call between he and Donnie.
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Heineken14
11/16/19 11:24:23 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
Thompson posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Fourth-degree hearsay isn't evidence in any way.
This isn't hearsay. This guy literally heard Trump talking to Sondland. Your gaslighting fails.

Trump insane logic: He personally heard Trump say it? Hearsay!

No, he didn't. He heard someone say to him, that someone said to that guy, that this third person overheard the conversation.

Literally 4th-degree hearsay.


Wrong. Holmes himself is directly saying that he overheard the call between soundland and Donnie.
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Corrik7
11/16/19 11:41:29 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
That call isn't why people are saying soundland committed perjury. That was before we even found out about the call between he and Donnie.
I am responding to the person who says Sondland perjured because the one guy says he overheard a phone call.

Unless said phone call transcripts can confirm that or corroborating witnesses, it is hearsay. It is word against word. It doesn't equate to perjury.

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Ooooooranges
11/16/19 11:54:28 AM
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Corrik7 posted...
Heineken14 posted...
That call isn't why people are saying soundland committed perjury. That was before we even found out about the call between he and Donnie.
I am responding to the person who says Sondland perjured because the one guy says he overheard a phone call.

Unless said phone call transcripts can confirm that or corroborating witnesses, it is hearsay. It is word against word. It doesn't equate to perjury.


There were three people that overheard the conversation. David Holmes was just one of them. So yes, there are two other people that can corroborate what was said between Sondland and Trump.
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Bossdog421
11/16/19 11:55:41 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
I cant wait to see how many people perjure themselves on behalf of this corrupt administration.


Well you're in luck, here is one:

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1195446982988455938
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Bossdog421
11/16/19 2:08:16 PM
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What cnn didnt show up at her house at 6am this morning with the fbi?
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UnfairRepresent
11/16/19 2:10:03 PM
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The heresay shit is ignorant anyway

All evidence outside of a Trial is heresay

Heresay doesn't mean the evidence is weak or strong
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Bluebomber182
11/16/19 5:44:18 PM
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Sondland might flip and go scorched earth to save his own ass
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sondast
11/16/19 6:33:56 PM
#79:


Bossdog421 posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
I cant wait to see how many people perjure themselves on behalf of this corrupt administration.


Well you're in luck, here is one:

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1195446982988455938

Fake news.
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Ruvan22
11/16/19 7:22:12 PM
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muchdran posted...
Bluebomber182 posted...
Whataboutism isnt an argument
A history of hypocrisy, do what I say don't ask questions?


Yes, that's what Trump frequently says
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