Poll of the Day > Do you believe in not speaking ill of the dead?

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JebronLames
11/14/19 1:26:17 PM
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do you? you've hear this old and common saying haven't you.......


.....do you believe in it?
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Mead
11/14/19 1:28:45 PM
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depends how dead they are
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Lokarin
11/14/19 1:29:51 PM
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I don't believe in any supernatural retribution from the dead, but I do believe that the dead are held in high regard by their closest living friends so even the slightest ill-speak can cause problems.
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EvilMegas
11/14/19 1:30:02 PM
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Fuck them dead MFers.
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SpeedDemon20
11/14/19 1:43:13 PM
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Is this related to the child abusing, YouTube video maker? She died very recently.
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JebronLames
11/14/19 1:43:51 PM
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SpeedDemon20 posted...
Is this related to the child abusing, YouTube video maker? She died very recently.

i read about that , but no i did not have her in mind when making this topic
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Krow_Incarnate
11/14/19 1:44:44 PM
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People I know personally? Yes.

People known around the world? lolno

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JebronLames
11/14/19 1:45:54 PM
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Krow_Incarnate posted...
People I know personally? Yes.

People known around the world? lolno

how about if you knew them personally but you did not like them? is that what you mean?
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Krow_Incarnate
11/14/19 1:48:37 PM
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That's what I had in mind when I made that post.

If it's someone in the workplace I'm not fond of or even hated, then I'm still going to maintain a relative amount of decency. Death is still tragic when it comes to people you don't like.

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JebronLames
11/14/19 1:51:36 PM
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Krow_Incarnate posted...
That's what I had in mind when I made that post.

If it's someone in the workplace I'm not fond of or even hated, then I'm still going to maintain a relative amount of decency. Death is still tragic when it comes to people you don't like.

eh i don't really prescribe to that theory, if they were a genuine asshole then they should be called out on it. They should have worked harder to not be an asshole or be a decent human being.
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LinkPizza
11/14/19 1:52:30 PM
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Id probably feel guilty. Plus, it seems mean to. So I dont speak ill of them...
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JOExHIGASHI
11/14/19 2:11:10 PM
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Nope. I trash talk zombies, vampires, and ghosts all day
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Nichtcrawler X
11/14/19 2:13:56 PM
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SpeedDemon20 posted...
Is this related to the child abusing, YouTube video maker? She died very recently.


Did I miss something?
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TigerTycoon
11/14/19 2:14:44 PM
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You know how people always love talking crap about other people when those people are not around?

It's like that, but the person will never hear about it.
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Noop_Noop
11/14/19 2:16:56 PM
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i will gladly speak ill of any bad person, living or otherwise
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Mad_Max
11/14/19 2:27:49 PM
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Jeffrey Dahmer was a real asshole

Adolf Hitler was a POS

I could speak ill of the dead all day long
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Lil_Bit83
11/14/19 2:29:34 PM
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Nope. I'll tout their faults and good qualities either way. Moreso if they were a terrible person.

I think that saying is supposed to just be at funerals because people are grieving and maybe even having to deal with financial stuff and its not cool to start drama at a funeral. (Even though it happens anyway.)

That being said, I have at least 4 relatives whose funerals I wouldn't attend, even if I was paid to go.
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Lil_Bit83
11/14/19 2:33:19 PM
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JOExHIGASHI posted...
Nope. I trash talk zombies, vampires, and ghosts all day


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ParanoidObsessive
11/14/19 2:36:58 PM
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Lokarin posted...
I don't believe in any supernatural retribution from the dead, but I do believe that the dead are held in high regard by their closest living friends so even the slightest ill-speak can cause problems.

This is a pretty good summation.

The main reason for not speaking ill of the dead was so that the dead wouldn't come back and haunt your ass. It's sort of the same vein as to why you weren't supposed to talk bad about fairies (and it's why they're called The Fair Folk in the first place, which is a deliberate lie). You'd either emphasize the good parts and kind of ignore the bad parts (or totally lie, or not talk about them at all) so that the ghosts and fairies and other things that go bump in the night wouldn't come to screw with you out of revenge for badmouthing them.

That being said, I don't really believe in ghosts or the supernatural in general, so the dead can go fuck themselves. If you were an asshole while alive, you're still an asshole even after you die. You don't get to retroactively clear your accounts of all negatives just because you're dead.

THAT being said, I'm not a total piece of shit either, and I have at least something resembling empathy in my brain, so I'm not going to walk up to friends or family of someone who's dead and be all like "Hey, your dead loved one was an asshole. I'm glad he's dead and I hope he's rotting in hell."

Generally speaking, if someone feels the need to specifically ask my opinion of someone who's dead I won't necessarily sugar-coat it, but I don't go out of my way to rant about how terrible a person someone was for no real reason just because it makes me feel morally superior.
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PKMNsony
11/14/19 2:47:16 PM
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Just as if they were alive, it depends on if they were an asshole or not. Of course, it's only if the conversation comes up, you shouldn't go out of your way to bring them up to speak badly of them.
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HornedLion
11/14/19 5:20:27 PM
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Mad_Max posted...
Jeffrey Dahmer was a real asshole


Yawn.

Look up Albert Fish or John Wayne Gacy. They make Dahmer look small time.
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VeeVees
11/14/19 5:28:13 PM
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They are dead. They don't care. So I shouldn't too.
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keyblader1985
11/14/19 5:32:52 PM
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Are we talking about the recently dead?
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Mad_Max
11/14/19 5:38:32 PM
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HornedLion posted...
Mad_Max posted...
Jeffrey Dahmer was a real asshole


Yawn.

Look up Albert Fish or John Wayne Gacy. They make Dahmer look small time.

sorry, didn't realize we were having a dick measuring contest over serial killers...

Was just pointing out that it's easy to speak ill of the dead if they're a huge scumbag. Wasn't trying to produce the scummiest of scumbags to make that point, but you do you.
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PMarth2002
11/14/19 5:43:29 PM
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I think it mostly applies when you're talking to people who may be grieving.
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rexcrk
11/14/19 5:50:11 PM
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Depends.
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wwinterj25
11/14/19 6:26:06 PM
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Nope. Just because someone died that doesn't mean what they did in life will be forgotten.
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HornedLion
11/14/19 6:33:40 PM
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Mad_Max posted...
HornedLion posted...
Mad_Max posted...
Jeffrey Dahmer was a real asshole


Yawn.

Look up Albert Fish or John Wayne Gacy. They make Dahmer look small time.

sorry, didn't realize we were having a dick measuring contest over serial killers...

Was just pointing out that it's easy to speak ill of the dead if they're a huge scumbag. Wasn't trying to produce the scummiest of scumbags to make that point, but you do you.


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Mad_Max
11/14/19 6:46:37 PM
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lol
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Galcian
11/14/19 6:55:00 PM
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Krow_Incarnate posted...
People I know personally? Yes.

People known around the world? lolno
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gguirao
11/15/19 3:13:45 PM
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No. People take who they are to their graves, and if they were terrible, that's how they should be remembered. If you can't live an honorable life, you don't deserve honor after your death.
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Moonjay
11/15/19 3:51:13 PM
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Pretty much what PO said. I have too much empathy to intentionally shit all over a dead person to their grieving family. But if asked, I'd probably be at least mostly honest. Depends on the situation.

But I speak ill of my piece of shit dead ass grandpa all the time.
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Mad_Max
11/15/19 3:56:19 PM
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Yeah your grandpa was a real prick
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Moonjay
11/15/19 3:57:52 PM
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Mad_Max posted...
Yeah your grandpa was a real prick


Word.
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