Current Events > Requiring a nanny we hire to be a US a citizen, fair or not?

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my auntie is looking for one but for some odd reason, she requires them to be US citizens and to provide proof

the reason why is so that she knows they are not illegal

shes offering $16/hr if that matters
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Is the position in the US?

If so, it sounds like a logical requirement....
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The nanny game is rigged

OpenlyGator posted...

Is the position in the US?

If so, it sounds like a logical requirement....

yeah but I would think a green card is enough....
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ScionTC_07 posted...

OpenlyGator posted...

Is the position in the US?

If so, it sounds like a logical requirement....

yeah but I would think a green card is enough....

Clearly your auntie disagrees.
Considering childcare and possible access into the home may be involved, I'm not surprised. If that's the case, it's not a rare perspective at all.
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There is a big difference between can work legally in the US and US citizen. It's one thing to want to follow the law, it's another to just straight up discriminate against foreign workers.

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1) She's not charging a decent amount.

2) How dare her

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ssjevot posted...

There is a big difference between can work legally in the US and US citizen. It's one thing to want to follow the law, it's another to just straight up discriminate against foreign workers.

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Nothing wrong with buying American.
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teepan95 posted...

ssjevot posted...

There is a big difference between can work legally in the US and US citizen. It's one thing to want to follow the law, it's another to just straight up discriminate against foreign workers.

We're talking about a nanny position. Discrimination is not uncommon in regards to the job field at all. Even licensed childcare businesses within the US openly facilitate it.

You can stand on that soapbox, but this is an employment field where not much is going to change even today. It deals with home and family. As of this date people are legally free to be as "discriminatingly" preferential in their choices with those categories just as much as their dating profiles. As many before you had found, you would be hard pressed to legislate that away. And even if you could, households in disagreement with the legislated change would just take another route. It's their house, their rules that ultimately call the shots in who gets hired....including who is allowed to participate.
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Weird how I never talked about legality and yet you go on and on about the law. No one asked if it was legal or should be legal in this topic to discriminate on it.

I knew people who lived in the US since childhood, native English speakers, but just a Green Card because they were born in another country and their parents immigrated there after. I think they would be just as qualified as any US citizen. This practice would exclude them, but allow someone who barely speaks English but happens to have been born in the US to apply. So I think it's a pretty bad reason to discriminate. I don't care about the legality of the discrimination, because I am not basing my opinion on it.

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Completely fair and within her right.

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ssjevot posted...

Weird how I never talked about legality and yet you go on and on about the law. No one asked if it was legal or should be legal in this topic to discriminate on it.

You didn't have to. Nor was it required to bring it up.

I don't care about the legality either....but it's part of the issue TC is talking about. That was my point. TC's aunt wants to be discriminatory with her selection of a nanny: well boohoo, you can't do anything to stop her. Currently nobody can because US laws are on her side.

I know, I used to work as an in-home caregiver for children. As someone who was formerly a "nanny" myself I can accurately tell you discriminatory selection for the job has been around since the job was born. And it's not going anywhere because people are commonly sensitive about who watches their children and enters their home. Race, gender, ethnicity, age, beliefs, even the applicant's appearance can be a legally untouchable reason for the clients to turn you down. And no laws today can effectively change that.

You choose to be a nanny, you choose to accept the high possibility of being discriminated against. No #hashtag nanny movement is going to change that. I don't give a shit about the right or wrong over it. My days of caring about that are over. But out of experience I can assure you it's a case of discrimination that's not going anywhere no matter how much it irks you. TC's auntie is not on the fringe with her preferences.
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I mean, she can, and you should of course be able to choose whatever you think fits best when it comes to the children in your life,

but that aunt is racist.

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teepan95 posted...

ssjevot posted...

There is a big difference between can work legally in the US and US citizen. It's one thing to want to follow the law, it's another to just straight up discriminate against foreign workers.

Theres an even bigger difference between can work legally in the U.S. and illegal immigrant.
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I immediately assumed TC was talking about getting a nanny for his own kids, then I noticed his username and realized that's not possible

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lmao good luck finding one.
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This is why E-Verify needs to be accessible to everyone.

this is illegal though @ClockworkHare

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Kolibri X posted...

Nothing wrong with buying American.

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wait scion has a family now?
lol that's a good joke.
I guess the no_u_ gimmick got old
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ssjevot posted...

There is a big difference between can work legally in the US and US citizen. It's one thing to want to follow the law, it's another to just straight up discriminate against foreign workers.

Ya this. I'm guessing TC's aunt actually means authorized to work rather than citizen. But if not, she should know you can be legal and not be a citizen
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