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OctilIery
11/12/19 12:11:08 AM
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Like.... I was willing to write it off on laziness when it was just the national dex, but no, holy shit it's one disaster after another. There are so many baffling changes that I can't see any upside to. Some can't even be attributed to laziness. Like, adding a level cap to Pokmon you can catch? That isn't even lazy, you had to explicitly go out of your way to make that change. It took more effort to make the game worse. What the fuck.
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Irony
11/12/19 12:12:07 AM
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It's laziness and incompetence with a dash of them wanting to not do Pokemon anymore
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OctilIery
11/12/19 12:14:18 AM
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Irony posted...
It's laziness and incompetence with a dash of them wanting to not do Pokemon anymore

I can honestly believe that, and the claims of morale being at an all time low. They are actively sabotaging the game.
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Duncanwii
11/12/19 12:24:51 AM
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OctilIery posted...
Like, adding a level cap to Pokmon you can catch?
That's only in the Wild Area. And its specifically so you cant catch a high level Pokemon and steamroll the game.

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AlephZero
11/12/19 12:28:25 AM
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It will still be one of the best selling games of all time.
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darkprince45
11/12/19 12:28:50 AM
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AlephZero posted...
It will still be one of the best selling games of all time.

And average 8.0s
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OctilIery
11/12/19 12:34:30 AM
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Duncanwii posted...
OctilIery posted...
Like, adding a level cap to Pokmon you can catch?
That's only in the Wild Area. And its specifically so you cant catch a high level Pokemon and steamroll the game.

There's literally already mechanics for that that have existed from the start of the franchise. This serves zero purpose.
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PopOutAtYoParty
11/12/19 12:37:35 AM
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Duncanwii posted...
OctilIery posted...
Like, adding a level cap to Pokmon you can catch?
That's only in the Wild Area. And its specifically so you cant catch a high level Pokemon and steamroll the game.


I'm confused. Hasn't this always been the case?

Pokemon in a wild area were always random occurences of 4-8 set encounters. Including the level they would spawn at.
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gamer167
11/12/19 12:37:37 AM
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Duncanwii posted...
That's only in the Wild Area. And its specifically so you cant catch a high level Pokemon and steamroll the game.


Why shouldnt you be able to do that?
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OctilIery
11/12/19 12:38:23 AM
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PopOutAtYoParty posted...
Duncanwii posted...
OctilIery posted...
Like, adding a level cap to Pokmon you can catch?
That's only in the Wild Area. And its specifically so you cant catch a high level Pokemon and steamroll the game.


I'm confused. Hasn't this always been the case?

Pokemon in a wild area were always random occurences of 4-8 set encounters. Including the level they would spawn at.

Not to mention if you ever had a Pokmon tok high for the story it wouldn't obey you.
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Senta
11/12/19 12:39:06 AM
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OctilIery posted...
Not to mention if you ever had a Pokmon tok high for the story it wouldn't obey you.


That was only for Pokemon received in Trades; not for any you caught or leveled yourself.

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Damn_Underscore
11/12/19 12:39:32 AM
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Pokemon is like Harry Potter on a much larger scale.

A really good concept with really disappointing official material.
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PopOutAtYoParty
11/12/19 12:40:49 AM
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OctilIery posted...
PopOutAtYoParty posted...
Duncanwii posted...
OctilIery posted...
Like, adding a level cap to Pokmon you can catch?
That's only in the Wild Area. And its specifically so you cant catch a high level Pokemon and steamroll the game.


I'm confused. Hasn't this always been the case?

Pokemon in a wild area were always random occurences of 4-8 set encounters. Including the level they would spawn at.

Not to mention if you ever had a Pokmon tok high for the story it wouldn't obey you.


That's only through trades.
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Doom_Art
11/12/19 12:41:06 AM
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Duncanwii posted...
And its specifically so you cant catch a high level Pokemon and steamroll the game.
If you have the skills to catch high level Pokemon at that early stage of the game then why shouldn't you be able to?

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marthsheretoo
11/12/19 12:42:31 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Pokemon is like Harry Potter on a much larger scale.

A really good concept with really disappointing official material.


Star Wars
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Irony
11/12/19 12:43:08 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Duncanwii posted...
And its specifically so you cant catch a high level Pokemon and steamroll the game.
If you have the skills to catch high level Pokemon at that early stage of the game then why shouldn't you be able to?

Tbf it isn't really skill. You just lob balls until you capture it. I can really only think of the Dugtrio you can get in gen 1 in the tunnel. Plus from what I heard SW/SH considers 8 levels higher than your average is considered too high which is fucking dumb.
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Doe
11/12/19 12:43:48 AM
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"why shouldn't you be able to bypass intended balancing in an rpg and erase the difficulty of the game"

The catching level cap is a silly hill to die on in context of the greater trainwreck
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Doom_Art
11/12/19 12:45:09 AM
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Irony posted...
Tbf it isn't really skill. You just lob balls until you capture it. I can really only think of the Dugtrio you can get in gen 1 in the tunnel. Plus from what I heard SW/SH considers 8 levels higher than your average is considered too high which is fucking dumb.
I guess my point is if the player is willing to put in the time and effort to do that, then I don't think it should be walled off to them.

Same reason why I hate the trend in open world rpgs where the level you're at dictates which equipment you're capable of using.

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Chicken
11/12/19 12:45:51 AM
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Jesus Sword & Jesus Shield confirmed for the updated versions.
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Duncanwii
11/12/19 12:48:23 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
If you have the skills to catch high level Pokemon at that early stage of the game then why shouldn't you be able to?
Because then people will complain the game has no difficulty and Gamefreak should have made it harder to catch high level Pokemon.

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EzeDoesIt
11/12/19 12:48:45 AM
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Chicken posted...
Jesus Sword & Jesus Shield confirmed for the updated versions.
rip Jesus Sword shot up to 97 degrees of faith

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MrNintendo1213
11/12/19 12:52:42 AM
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Duncanwii posted...
Doom_Art posted...
If you have the skills to catch high level Pokemon at that early stage of the game then why shouldn't you be able to?
Because then people will complain the game has no difficulty and Gamefreak should have made it harder to catch high level Pokemon.


They never complained about it before from what I've seen. And more importantly, it doesnt matter if you catch a pokemon much higher level because all or your pokemon will be over leveled and completely steamroll every fight you get into because of the exp share.

The difficulty excuse only works if it actually makes the game harder and not just more annoying to play.
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Mistere Man
11/12/19 2:09:28 AM
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Imagine a shiny showing up only to not be able to catch it just because it is over a set level.
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