Poll of the Day > Brainwashed Americans defending Colombus are like the Chinese defending Mao

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EvilMegas posted...

Bulbasaur posted...

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who cares what this dude did hundreds of years ago

I don't see how time is a factor when it comes to mass murder

no one that was involved in what he did is alive, and their lineages are probably also dead
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Destiny posted...

EvilMegas posted...

Bulbasaur posted...

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who cares what this dude did hundreds of years ago

I don't see how time is a factor when it comes to mass murder

no one that was involved in what he did is alive, and their lineages are probably also dead

They might be if he had not killed them
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PKMNsony posted...

DirtBasedSoap posted...

Bulbasaur posted...

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who cares what this dude did hundreds of years ago

absolute nerds lol

GUYS LOOK HOW WOKE I AM

Personally, I care about history, but you're also spot on LOL.

I absolutely love history but talking points like OPs are useless
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I guess that somehow makes it okay and we should keep celebrating him like some brave hero then?
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EvilMegas posted...

I guess that somehow makes it okay and we should keep celebrating him like some brave hero then?

Does anybody really give a shit though? I've never personally met anyone who really gives the slightest fuck about Columbus day other than potentially getting a day off from work or something

EvilMegas posted...

I guess that somehow makes it okay and we should keep celebrating him like some brave hero then?

yes he is my idol, I love him!!!!!
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OhhhJa posted...

EvilMegas posted...

I guess that somehow makes it okay and we should keep celebrating him like some brave hero then?

Does anybody really give a shit though? I've never personally met anyone who really gives the slightest fuck about Columbus day other than potentially getting a day off from work or something

So... then why are you all in here giving a shit, then?
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EvilMegas posted...

OhhhJa posted...

EvilMegas posted...

I guess that somehow makes it okay and we should keep celebrating him like some brave hero then?

Does anybody really give a shit though? I've never personally met anyone who really gives the slightest fuck about Columbus day other than potentially getting a day off from work or something

So... then why are you all in here giving a shit, then?

10/10 post

we have a real brainiac on our hands
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EvilMegas posted...

I guess that somehow makes it okay and we should keep celebrating him like some brave hero then?

Who's this "we?" Who do you know that actually celebrates Columbus the man?

Schools don't teach about Columbus and he doesn't have a holiday because he's a hero. He's a relevant contributor to history and that's all that's emphasized.
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Well at least he got us a day off.

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Veedrock- posted...

Schools don't teach about Columbus and he doesn't have a holiday because he's a hero. He's a relevant contributor to history and that's all that's emphasized

I've never seen someone be so wrong all at once.
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Veedrock- posted...

Who's this "we?" Who do you know that actually celebrates Columbus the man?

Schools don't teach about Columbus and he doesn't have a holiday because he's a hero. He's a relevant contributor to history and that's what's emphasized on all fronts. Being "woke" about a guy hundreds of years dead isn't enlightened, it's ridiculous.

Please explain his relevance.

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Literally asking for elementary school education.
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Veedrock- posted...

Schools don't teach about Columbus

Veedrock- posted...

Literally asking for elementary school education.

???
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Veedrock- posted...

Literally asking for elementary school education.

He didn't discover anything.

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EvilMegas posted...

Veedrock- posted...

Schools don't teach about Columbus

Veedrock- posted...

Literally asking for elementary school education.

???

Misquoting me by chopping my sentence in half. You got me good.
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Veedrock- posted...

Literally asking for elementary school education.

Then it should be easy to provide.
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adjl posted...

Veedrock- posted...

Literally asking for elementary school education.

Then it should be easy to provide.

American schools use textbooks that are 30+ years old. Didnt a lot of Columbus assholery come to light within the last 15 years or so? So give it another 15 years and our basic education might have the updated history included.
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DirtBasedSoap posted...

EvilMegas posted...

OhhhJa posted...

EvilMegas posted...

I guess that somehow makes it okay and we should keep celebrating him like some brave hero then?

Does anybody really give a shit though? I've never personally met anyone who really gives the slightest fuck about Columbus day other than potentially getting a day off from work or something

So... then why are you all in here giving a shit, then?

10/10 post

we have a real brainiac on our hands

Because this is a nerd message board where people get outraged for entertainment about things that your average guy on the street couldn't fucking care less about

Veedrock- posted...

EvilMegas posted...

Veedrock- posted...

Schools don't teach about Columbus

Veedrock- posted...

Literally asking for elementary school education.

???

Misquoting me by chopping my sentence in half. You got me good.

The full sentence did nothing to contradict how dumb you've been.
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EvilMegas posted...

Veedrock- posted...

EvilMegas posted...

Veedrock- posted...

Schools don't teach about Columbus

Veedrock- posted...

Literally asking for elementary school education.

???

Misquoting me by chopping my sentence in half. You got me good.

The full sentence did nothing to contradict how dumb you've been.

It was a rather poorly-constructed sentence, but if you parse it out properly, Sunny's interpretation of the phrase he copied is actually the opposite of what he was saying.
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OhhhJa posted...

Because this is a nerd message board where people get outraged for entertainment about things that your average guy on the street couldn't fucking care less about

There are plenty of non-gamefaqs users agreeing that Columbus isn't a historical figure worthy of praise and celebration. Columbus day should actually be "Native populations" day.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

OhhhJa posted...

Because this is a nerd message board where people get outraged for entertainment about things that your average guy on the street couldn't fucking care less about

There are plenty of non-gamefaqs users agreeing that Columbus isn't a historical figure worthy of praise and celebration. Columbus day should actually be "Native populations" day.

Yeah and we would end up celebrating it in some way that would cause people to complain about cultural appropriation.
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Americans: Communism is a hateful regime that lead to warlords killing millions through exploitative labour, while keeping power through cruelty, in a manner so pervasive in society that even today those living in communist societies worship their sociopathic founders like gods.

Also Americans: literally this topic
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wow bligh youre so woke. *bows*

but honestly what the fuck are you even trying to say with that last post lmao
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*sigh*

Okay. First off... Columbus wasn't that important a historical figure even in his day. He wasn't unimportant but, had things gone 'normally', he'd be more of a footnote in history than anything and explorers like Magellan would be more well known. However, for a while America had an issue with the immigration of Italian immigrants. Longfellow (the same one who wrote about Paul Revere) wrote about Columbus in an effort to provide a hero to the Italians to try and provide some unity. It worked and Columbus was catapulted from a relatively minor explorer to a major player in history.

Was Columbus important? YES! While it's true that the vikings were the first recorded Europeans to reach America their discovery of 'vinland' had basically faded into legend if even that. So setting out to discover Vinland would be like you setting out to discover the lost continent of Mu. Columbus's journey resulted in America being brought to the attention of the Europeans whom proceeded to send many expeditions and colonies to America which changed it on a fundamental level as well as resulted in massive changes across Europe and, eventually, Asia and Africa.

Would America have been 'discovered' without Columbus? Yes. We would have had explorers trying to circumnavigate the globe running smack dab into it. That's not to mention powers trying to establish new trade routes with places like China especially ones that didn't result in them having to deal with rival trade powers.

Was Columbus a visionary who believed the world was round when everyone else said it was flat? No. If you think about it discovering America proves, in no way, that the world is round. At the time most people believed it was round. They were even pretty close as to its size too. That latter fact is the issue. It was believed that the distance to the east was simply too much to travel without starving. They were right. Had Columbus not stumbled on America (imagine it didn't exist) his ships would have starved long before reaching their destination. His belief was that the world was both pear-shaped and much smaller than it really is which would have permitted the journey if true.

Did Columbus matter? Arguably no. If he didn't exist there wouldn't be some massive shift in America where the native people suddenly caught up to the eurasian powers and established their own nations. The most advanced nations were basically on-par with ancient Egypt after all at the time. Bronze, Iron age at MOST. All his failure to exist would do is push discovery back a few decades, maybe a century.

Is Columbus important? Does it matter? We have a bunch of pesudo-intellectuals claiming he's a horrible monster despite the reality that many of the atrocities happened long after he was dead, by nations he was never a part of (especially Spain), in parts of the world he simply had no control over. It's like getting mad at Dr. Doom for something the Joker did. On the opposite side we have a bunch of normal people who don't really care one way or the other normally beyond the false beliefs peddled for generations yet suddenly finding people screaming about native atrocities and the like over someone they really have no knowledge about and being baffled and even defensive as a result. All they know about Columbus is that he 'proved the world was round' and 'discovered America' after all.

Picking fights won't win you allies. Neither will mis-representing the fight and other such things.

Also, is Columbus comparable to Mao? PHAHAHAHAHAHA NOOOOOOOOO!!! Mao is, like, a bazillion times worse. Doesn't exonerate Columbus; but in the running for 'history's biggest monster' Columbus is basically a weenie.
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Sarcasthma posted...

Veedrock- posted...

Sarcasthma posted...

we can start working on cancelling or renaming their national holidays.

Why?

Because I want to trigger all the snowflakes.

Im pretty sure theyre the ones who would be for cancelling a holiday. I mean theyre the ones who took down a number of inanimate objects because of their feelings.
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Unbridled9 posted...

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So basically, "Colombus was bad but I don't care, and Mao was bad and I do care, so there". Wow, I've been unwoke.

Unbridled9 posted...

Picking fights won't win you allies. Neither will mis-representing the fight and other such things.

I don't really want to ally with people who excuse mass murder tbh. Half of America was been sucking off neo nazis for the past fifty years and it's only made things worse.

DirtBasedSoap posted...

wow bligh youre so woke. *bows*

but honestly what the fuck are you even trying to say with that last post lmao

Dude you've made like twenty posts in this topic boiling down to "it doesn't matter", so maybe you should just take a page out of PO's book and make one long post saying "it doesn't matter" twenty times.
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u/chapocheck

i didnt say it doesnt matter a single time lmao

i said your opinions and thoughts on the matter are useless one time out of 4 posts.

go be weird and butthurt somewhere else
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Theres just no reason to celebrate the guy. He set out to find a quicker way to India to make some bank, accidentally discovered there were islands in the way, and later he treated natives terribly and had no regard for their lives because he considered them less than human. Even in Europe at the time they flipped and locked him up when they found out.

It has nothing to do with being woke or shaming people, its just that Columbus in particular was a shitty person that did something notable historically.
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Mead posted...

Theres just no reason to celebrate the guy. He set out to find a quicker way to India to make some bank, accidentally discovered there were islands in the way, and later he treated natives terribly and had no regard for their lives because he considered them less than human. Even in Europe at the time they flipped and locked him up when they found out.

It has nothing to do with being woke or shaming people, its just that Columbus in particular was a shitty person that did something notable historically.

I bet if he gave Captain Marvel a good review you'd see opinions start flipping like burgers
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yeah I agree that he was a piece of shit but it was a billion years ago and no one is worshipping him lol
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SunWuKung420 posted...

OhhhJa posted...

Because this is a nerd message board where people get outraged for entertainment about things that your average guy on the street couldn't fucking care less about

There are plenty of non-gamefaqs users agreeing that Columbus isn't a historical figure worthy of praise and celebration. Columbus day should actually be "Native populations" day.

Missing the actual point as usual. I think most everyone agrees that columbus isnt some kind of hero. My point is nobody actually fucking cares about this dumb shit and I've never met someone who actually praises Columbus on Columbus day. It's just another day to pretty much everyone unless you get the day off work or something

DirtBasedSoap posted...

yeah I agree that he was a piece of shit but it was a billion years ago and no one is worshipping him lol

There also arent tons of folks saying he was the worst person of all time, worse than Hitler, etc

There were a lot of people who did shitty things throughout history, but there are a lot of misconceptions about Columbus and he really isnt someone that should be celebrated with a national holiday
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zebatov posted...

Sarcasthma posted...

Veedrock- posted...

Sarcasthma posted...

we can start working on cancelling or renaming their national holidays.

Why?

Because I want to trigger all the snowflakes.

Im pretty sure theyre the ones who would be for cancelling a holiday. I mean theyre the ones who took down a number of inanimate objects because of their feelings.

Everyones a snowflake, actually.
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I didnt realize that indigenous peoples day wasnt a national thing. I thought they stopped calling it Columbus day but apparently most of the country still does.
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So basically, "Colombus was bad but I don't care, and Mao was bad and I do care, so there". Wow, I've been unwoke.

Columbus was small time. The college kid selling dime bags of oregano to Mao's Pablo. Comparing the two is stupid.

I don't really want to ally with people who excuse mass murder tbh. Half of America was been sucking off neo nazis for the past fifty years and it's only made things worse.

Okay Millennial.
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Comparing columbus to mao is a level of wokeness that I wasn't sure was possible

OhhhJa posted...

Comparing columbus to mao is a level of wokeness that I wasn't sure was possible

It's wokeness. They'd compare a newborn baby just learning to walk to Hitler if it was a cis white male and they thought they could get away with it.
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Bligh never compared Columbus to Mao though.

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Unbridled9 posted...

Okay Millennial.

Whoa you sure showed him
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GanonsSpirit posted...

Bligh never compared Columbus to Mao though.

Yeah yeah he's comparing americans to chinese people using mao and columbus. Cool story

Mead posted...

Whoa you sure showed him

On the internet, insults prove you're right.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEw8c6TmzGg

I think this video is worth watching. I went into this video ready to hate it, but it broadened my perspective a bit.
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SunWuKung420 posted...

Mead posted...

Whoa you sure showed him

On the internet, insults prove you're right.

I don't really see the point in debating with someone who legit-believes that America is doing it's best to appeal to freaking neo-nazi's of all things. May as well claim Mormons secretly run the government as they're a group that's at least not universally hated across America.
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SunWuKung420 posted...

OhhhJa posted...

Because this is a nerd message board where people get outraged for entertainment about things that your average guy on the street couldn't fucking care less about

There are plenty of non-gamefaqs users agreeing that Columbus isn't a historical figure worthy of praise and celebration. Columbus day should actually be "Native populations" day.

guilty white man
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StripedTiger posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEw8c6TmzGg

I think this video is worth watching. I went into this video ready to hate it, but it broadened my perspective a bit.

I clicked on it, saw 28 minutes, and thought Fuck that.

And then the 28 minutes flew by. Good video.

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The Popo posted...

StripedTiger posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEw8c6TmzGg

I think this video is worth watching. I went into this video ready to hate it, but it broadened my perspective a bit.

I clicked on it, saw 28 minutes, and thought Fuck that.

And then the 28 minutes flew by. Good video.

Ditto. I learned quite a bit from that. I wish I could show it to more people but a 28 minute video isn't exactly wieldy in an argument.
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People get mad if you link videos here. Their attention span can only handle 3 paragraph CNN articles about drumpf. A video more than a minute long is just ridiculous!