Current Events > So turns out that Immigrants from 'shitholes' are the BEST at Bootstrap Pulling!

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Barenziah Boy Toy
11/02/19 10:56:17 PM
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https://preview.tinyurl.com/yyf6hbpa

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/11/1/20942642/study-paper-american-dream-economic-mobility-(REMOVE THIS PART)immigrant-income-boustan-abramitzky-jacome-perez

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A new study shows that even the poorest immigrants lift themselves up within a generation

The adult children of immigrants, almost universally, show more upward economic mobility than their peers whose parents were born in the United States. Indeed, a new working paper by Stanford Universitys Ran Abramitzky; Princeton Universitys Leah Platt Boustan and Elisa Jcome; and the University of California Davis Santiago Prez finds that this is especially true for the lowest-income immigrants and remains true for the most recent cohorts for which data is available.
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Prior research has shown that immigrants who start out earning less than their US-born peers are unlikely to catch up in their lifetimes. And among more recent immigrants, that initial income gap is growing bigger and harder to close. But the new study shows that, even if immigrants start out with low income levels, most are not only catching up eventually but surpassing their US-born peers even if it takes a generation.
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We dont even have to reach for these cultural explanations, Boustan said in an interview. A lot of it has to do with immigrants being willing to move anywhere and choosing locations where there are growing industries and a good set of job opportunities for their kids. Those are choices that immigrants are making that are different from the US-born and that could be a feature of immigrant success.

The first generation arriving in the US, however, might also have difficulty finding work at income levels that reflect their true talents and abilities due to a variety of factors: limited English skills, lack of an established professional network in the US, and discrimination, Boustan said. A classic scenario might be a Russian scientist who comes to the US and works as a cab driver. In that case, the second generation might be able to move up more quickly than their fathers income ranking would suggest. What might matter for the kids is what their fathers true talents and abilities were, rather than where he gets placed in the labor market, Boustan said.
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Boustan said the paper pushes back on the idea of model minorities: that minorities from certain ethnic or racial backgrounds tend to find more socioeconomic success than others. Its typically been used to describe Asians in contrast to Hispanics and African Americans. But regardless of race or ethnicity, children of immigrants from the overwhelming majority of the countries they studied performed better than the US-born.

The papers findings also challenge Trumps ideas about who should be allowed to immigrate to the US. In fact, immigrants from Mexico, El Salvador, and African nations such as Nigeria are all performing better than the US-born. And in past waves of immigration, immigrants from Norway actually performed worse than the US-born. We take it as a warning against taking a nostalgic view of immigration, Abramitzky said.

Newsflash:
Mexicans, Nigerians, and other 'shithole' countries (according to Trump) have harder and better-working people than Americans. Also, immigrants from Trumpastani countries are doing worse.

Using Trump's logic -- "When Norwegians come here, THEY ARE NOT SENDING THEIR BEST !"
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Milkman5
11/02/19 10:56:50 PM
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vox is a suspect source
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
11/02/19 10:57:04 PM
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Trumpastani

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Barenziah Boy Toy
11/02/19 10:57:48 PM
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Milkman5 posted...
vox is a suspect source

Vox didn't do the fucking study.

It's obvious from your ignorant reading skills that you have an American upbringing.
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
11/02/19 10:58:59 PM
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BBT about to get his ass in purgatory for the racist posting
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Milkman5
11/02/19 10:59:52 PM
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I'm saying they are cherry pickers.

The study is by a bunch of suspect college professors who publish "studies" like this all the time.
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DrizztLink
11/02/19 11:00:35 PM
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Nice, way to bury any willingness I had to listen to you.
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EndOfDiscOne
11/02/19 11:01:16 PM
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boxington
11/02/19 11:01:24 PM
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Milkman5 posted...
vox is a suspect source

Vox didn't do the fucking study.

It's obvious from your ignorant reading skills that you have an American upbringing.

what the heck did you say about my country?!
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Barenziah Boy Toy
11/02/19 11:02:49 PM
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boxington posted...
what the heck did you say about my country?!

Americans have a weaker K-12 education system than the majority of first world nations.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
11/02/19 11:03:11 PM
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
BBT about to get his ass in purgatory for the racist posting

Racist against who? Pray tell, please explain yourself.
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
11/02/19 11:03:50 PM
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...

Racist against who?

Will you be pretending the lydiaquale account isn't you?
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Barenziah Boy Toy
11/02/19 11:05:30 PM
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
Will you be pretending the lydiaquale account isn't you?

WTF are you blabbering on about? How is this topic racist? You have a problem with Trump calling other countries shitholes?
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
11/02/19 11:06:53 PM
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...

WTF are you blabbering on about? How is this topic racist?

So that's a yes

I like you BBT, your gimmick is never dropped
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Webmaster4531
11/02/19 11:13:17 PM
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Milkman5 posted...
vox is a suspect source

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78129722

You had no problem with a foxnews source here.
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DisneyFan462
11/02/19 11:13:42 PM
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They know they need to work for a good life, they arent entitled
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FreeHongKong
11/02/19 11:14:06 PM
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Cool. Let them come legally or stay home and bootstrap their own countries.
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Webmaster4531
11/02/19 11:15:41 PM
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FreeHongKong posted...
Cool. Let them come legally or stay home and bootstrap their own countries.

https://youtu.be/tXqnRMU1fTs
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Milkman5
11/02/19 11:18:11 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78129722

You had no problem with a fox news source here.


All I mentioned in there is that Cali is becoming a shit hole, which it is in my opinion. I live here, that's my source.
I even said it's not prop 47, it's a combination of things.

It's not one law or prop that is destroying San Francisco,
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FreeHongKong
11/02/19 11:19:16 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
FreeHongKong posted...
Cool. Let them come legally or stay home and bootstrap their own countries.

https://youtu.be/tXqnRMU1fTs


John Oliver is deep state conditioning.
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Questionmarktarius
11/02/19 11:19:31 PM
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Didn't the Irish prove this some 150 years ago?
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Barenziah Boy Toy
11/02/19 11:20:03 PM
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FreeHongKong posted...
Cool. Let them come legally or stay home and bootstrap their own countries.

Undocumented migrants are just as good at bootstrapping -- as long as you stop discriminating against them and treat them fairly.
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FreeHongKong
11/02/19 11:21:03 PM
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
FreeHongKong posted...
Cool. Let them come legally or stay home and bootstrap their own countries.

Undocumented migrants are just as good at bootstrapping -- as long as you stop discriminating against them and treat them fairly.


So let them return home and bootstrap their own countries. Why should America hog all these geniuses via brain drain?
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Barenziah Boy Toy
11/02/19 11:22:13 PM
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FreeHongKong posted...
So let them return home and bootstrap their own countries. Why should America hog all these geniuses via brain drain?

Can't. America helped install dictators and cartels into their countries.
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Webmaster4531
11/02/19 11:23:01 PM
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FreeHongKong posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
FreeHongKong posted...
Cool. Let them come legally or stay home and bootstrap their own countries.

https://youtu.be/tXqnRMU1fTs


John Oliver is deep state conditioning.

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FreeHongKong
11/02/19 11:23:19 PM
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
FreeHongKong posted...
So let them return home and bootstrap their own countries. Why should America hog all these geniuses via brain drain?

Can't. America helped install dictators and cartels into their countries.


If theyre so smart, theyll figure out how to reform their home countries.
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Questionmarktarius
11/02/19 11:24:25 PM
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
FreeHongKong posted...
Cool. Let them come legally or stay home and bootstrap their own countries.

Undocumented migrants are just as good at bootstrapping -- as long as you stop discriminating against them and treat them fairly.

They knew where the door was, but climbed in through a window anyway.
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FreeHongKong
11/02/19 11:25:23 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
FreeHongKong posted...
Cool. Let them come legally or stay home and bootstrap their own countries.

Undocumented migrants are just as good at bootstrapping -- as long as you stop discriminating against them and treat them fairly.

They knew where the door was, but climbed in through a window anyway.


A detention center window?
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Questionmarktarius
11/02/19 11:26:39 PM
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FreeHongKong posted...
A detention center window?

Those places even have windows?
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Barenziah Boy Toy
11/02/19 11:27:25 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
They knew where the door was, but climbed in through a window anyway.

The door takes 25 years, if ever. THat's more than an entire generation. Best to go through the window so that their children can outperform our American peers.
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Webmaster4531
11/02/19 11:27:28 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
FreeHongKong posted...
Cool. Let them come legally or stay home and bootstrap their own countries.

Undocumented migrants are just as good at bootstrapping -- as long as you stop discriminating against them and treat them fairly.

They knew where the door was, but climbed in through a window anyway.

What door? Watch the video I posted.
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FreeHongKong
11/02/19 11:28:22 PM
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
They knew where the door was, but climbed in through a window anyway.

The door takes 25 years, if ever. THat's more than an entire generation.


So that gives them the right to sneak in and demand citizenship?
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Barenziah Boy Toy
11/02/19 11:28:44 PM
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FreeHongKong posted...
If theyre so smart, theyll figure out how to reform their home countries.

America needed help from the French and Germans and black slaves, to defeat the British.
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FreeHongKong
11/02/19 11:29:43 PM
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
FreeHongKong posted...
If theyre so smart, theyll figure out how to reform their home countries.

America needed help from the French and Germans.


And if they want help from America, Id be okay with providing air support via drones and missiles/bombs.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
11/02/19 11:30:17 PM
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FreeHongKong posted...
So that gives them the right to sneak in and demand citizenship?

They have a right to ask out of basic decency. Whether or not we give it to them is a matter of human dignity.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
11/02/19 11:30:55 PM
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FreeHongKong posted...
And if they want help from America, Id be okay with providing air support via drones and missiles/bombs.

We're providing drones and missiles to the dictators and the corrupt.
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Questionmarktarius
11/02/19 11:34:21 PM
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FreeHongKong posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
They knew where the door was, but climbed in through a window anyway.

The door takes 25 years, if ever. THat's more than an entire generation.


So that gives them the right to sneak in and demand citizenship?

The better answer is opening up Affidavit of Support to everyone, for anyone.
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Machete
11/02/19 11:41:04 PM
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Milkman5 posted...
vox is a suspect source


"attack the argument, not the source" - literally every single pro-trump person in the universe
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