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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 3:16:49 PM
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Harvard used her self-identification to help bolster its diversity statistics and tamp down criticism of its hiring practices. The Globe reported, Warren doesnt have a direct answer for whether her claims might have harmed the efforts of others to press for more diversity at the overwhelmingly white institution.
If shes the nominee and says, Trumps dishonest, thats just the immediate counter: Youre dishonest about the most fundamental thing, who you were and how you got to your positions, said Republican strategist Chuck Warren of the political consulting firm September Group. He is of no relation to the candidate.

Dan Hazelwood, another Republican consultant and owner of Targeted Creative Communications, argued her apologies have missed the mark: Shes never given the answer to the core of the Trump charge, which is: She cheated. She cheated for personal gain. She hasnt answered that part of the attack.


https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/08/27/pocahontas-elizabeth-warrens-biggest-vulnerability-227912
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A_A_Battery
10/31/19 3:17:44 PM
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Worst thing ever tbh.
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Wewillrocku
10/31/19 3:17:53 PM
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she is literally native american isn't she? the criticism i saw is that she doesn't live with native americans and doesn't speak any native american languages, which doesn't invalidate who she is.
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Doom_Art
10/31/19 3:18:00 PM
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The only people who cared about that were people who weren't voting for her to begin with

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Smashingpmkns
10/31/19 3:18:39 PM
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Big eye roll whenever a Trumper brings this up tbh
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FarFromFields
10/31/19 3:18:47 PM
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She's literally part Native American.
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Medzzz
10/31/19 3:19:21 PM
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She can identity however as she please
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KillerSlaw
10/31/19 3:19:52 PM
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She lies all the time tbqh

But I mean, that's what politicians do.
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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 3:20:45 PM
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Wewillrocku posted...
she is literally native american isn't she? the criticism i saw is that she doesn't live with native americans and doesn't speak any native american languages, which doesn't invalidate who she is.


I mean she admitted to lying, so...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/19/us/politics/elizabeth-warren-native-american.html
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MC_BatCommander
10/31/19 3:21:17 PM
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No, why?
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HiddenRoar
10/31/19 3:22:39 PM
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Well, yes. She took the spot that could have gone to an actual Native American.

There are only so many slots available for a particular position.
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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 3:23:16 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
No, why?


Because lying about these types of things should disqualify you from being President.
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NeoShadowhen
10/31/19 3:23:19 PM
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FarFromFields posted...
She's literally part Native American.


For the record, I dont care about any of this at all.

But there is no evidence she is part Native American. Maybe Central American. DNA tests do not test for Native American.

Although I guess Native Central American is still Native American, but that isnt what she said or meant.

At least thats what I heard. Could be bullshit. I havent looked into it, because as I said, I dont care about any of this at all.
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Heineken14
10/31/19 3:24:39 PM
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Did we all forget the time right wingers tried to make this lie to be a big deal while completely ignoring the 10+ lies a day Donnie says?
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Zikten
10/31/19 3:25:11 PM
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She apologized
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garan
10/31/19 3:25:56 PM
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It's going to be something that gets hammered home if she wins the nomination-- Trump won't ever stop calling her Pocahantas.
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MC_BatCommander
10/31/19 3:26:00 PM
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karlpilkington4 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
No, why?


Because lying about these types of things should disqualify you from being President.


I don't think she should be president tho
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JE19426
10/31/19 3:26:18 PM
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karlpilkington4 posted...
I mean she admitted to lying, so...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/19/us/politics/elizabeth-warren-native-american.html


Your source doesn't support your claim.
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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 3:28:54 PM
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NeoShadowhen posted...
FarFromFields posted...
She's literally part Native American.


For the record, I dont care about any of this at all.

But there is no evidence she is part Native American. Maybe Central American. DNA tests do not test for Native American.

Although I guess Native Central American is still Native American, but that isnt what she said or meant.

At least thats what I heard. Could be bullshit. I havent looked into it, because as I said, I dont care about any of this at all.


"It's important to note I am not a tribal citizen," Warren said, "and I should have been more mindful of the distinction with tribal citizenship and tribal sovereignty."

Warren apologized last week to Cherokee Nation Principal Chief Bill John Baker for a DNA test she released in October that she said showed "strong evidence" of Native American ancestry dating back several generations.

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FarFromFields
10/31/19 3:34:12 PM
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karlpilkington4 posted...
NeoShadowhen posted...
FarFromFields posted...
She's literally part Native American.


For the record, I dont care about any of this at all.

But there is no evidence she is part Native American. Maybe Central American. DNA tests do not test for Native American.

Although I guess Native Central American is still Native American, but that isnt what she said or meant.

At least thats what I heard. Could be bullshit. I havent looked into it, because as I said, I dont care about any of this at all.


"It's important to note I am not a tribal citizen," Warren said, "and I should have been more mindful of the distinction with tribal citizenship and tribal sovereignty."

Warren apologized last week to Cherokee Nation Principal Chief Bill John Baker for a DNA test she released in October that she said showed "strong evidence" of Native American ancestry dating back several generations.

This actually contradicts your point instead of supporting it. She told the truth about having Native ancestry. She never claimed to be a tribal citizen.
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10/31/19 3:37:36 PM
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She will be our first Native American President.
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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 3:40:37 PM
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FarFromFields posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
NeoShadowhen posted...
FarFromFields posted...
She's literally part Native American.


For the record, I dont care about any of this at all.

But there is no evidence she is part Native American. Maybe Central American. DNA tests do not test for Native American.

Although I guess Native Central American is still Native American, but that isnt what she said or meant.

At least thats what I heard. Could be bullshit. I havent looked into it, because as I said, I dont care about any of this at all.


"It's important to note I am not a tribal citizen," Warren said, "and I should have been more mindful of the distinction with tribal citizenship and tribal sovereignty."

Warren apologized last week to Cherokee Nation Principal Chief Bill John Baker for a DNA test she released in October that she said showed "strong evidence" of Native American ancestry dating back several generations.

This actually contradicts your point instead of supporting it. She told the truth about having Native ancestry. She never claimed to be a tribal citizen.


My only point is that she lied, and then apologized for stating that she was Native American when applying to Harvard.
I know I've made mistakes. I am sorry for harm I have caused. - Elizabeth Warren

Idk whats so hard to get.
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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 3:42:16 PM
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FarFromFields posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
NeoShadowhen posted...
FarFromFields posted...
She's literally part Native American.


For the record, I dont care about any of this at all.

But there is no evidence she is part Native American. Maybe Central American. DNA tests do not test for Native American.

Although I guess Native Central American is still Native American, but that isnt what she said or meant.

At least thats what I heard. Could be bullshit. I havent looked into it, because as I said, I dont care about any of this at all.


"It's important to note I am not a tribal citizen," Warren said, "and I should have been more mindful of the distinction with tribal citizenship and tribal sovereignty."

Warren apologized last week to Cherokee Nation Principal Chief Bill John Baker for a DNA test she released in October that she said showed "strong evidence" of Native American ancestry dating back several generations.

This actually contradicts your point instead of supporting it. She told the truth about having Native ancestry. She never claimed to be a tribal citizen.


Senator Elizabeth Warren is again apologizing for claiming Native American heritage. "I am also sorry for not being more mindful of this decades ago," she said. "Tribes, and only tribes, determined tribal citizenship," she added

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/02/07/elizabeth-warren-apology-native-american-identification/2799395002/
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Zero_Destroyer
10/31/19 3:42:46 PM
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if she's the dem nom, how does this actually credibly impact her versus a candidate who lies constantly?

it's a pebble compared to a boulder
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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 3:44:57 PM
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Zero_Destroyer posted...
if she's the dem nom, how does this actually credibly impact her versus a candidate who lies constantly?

it's a pebble compared to a boulder


Just look at her debate skills in the democratic debates. She cant even answer a question honestly without resorting to strawman arguments. She shouldnt be the nominee, is my point.
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Heineken14
10/31/19 3:45:15 PM
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Zero_Destroyer posted...
if she's the dem nom, how does this actually credibly impact her versus a candidate who lies constantly?

it's a pebble compared to a boulder


Because republicans have 0 standards. R next to your name? Well shit, you're the second coming and can do no wrong!
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JE19426
10/31/19 3:53:31 PM
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karlpilkington4 posted...
My only point is that she lied


Sure dude, but the problem is, none of your sources support your point.
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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 3:57:55 PM
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JE19426 posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
My only point is that she lied


Sure dude, but the problem is, none of your sources support your point.


My source is Elizabeth Warren apologizing for lying. Like...wow
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sktgamer_13dude
10/31/19 4:01:28 PM
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Saying youre not a citizen of the tribe doesnt mean you dont have Native American DNA in your system.
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Sega95
10/31/19 4:08:06 PM
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You can race identify as anything you want so I don't see the problem.

Right now I am Hispanic, it gives me more funding in certain programs, I'll switch to something else when it benefits me.
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KillerKhan420
10/31/19 4:09:51 PM
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FarFromFields posted...
She's literally part Native American.


Lol the dna tests came back and she's literally whiter than most white people.

Another huge liar when it comes to this is dog the bounty hunter. He's just a white man who lives on the beach so his skin is constantly burnt.
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Tyranthraxus
10/31/19 4:12:42 PM
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HiddenRoar posted...
Well, yes. She took the spot that could have gone to an actual Native American.

There are only so many slots available for a particular position.


Her being native American was not part of her admission application it was for a diversity club that required you to already be a student.

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OnWingsOfMisery
10/31/19 4:13:19 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
The only people who cared about that were people who weren't voting for her to begin with


So the people voting for her don't care about her lies?
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Sega95
10/31/19 4:17:35 PM
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OnWingsOfMisery posted...
Doom_Art posted...
The only people who cared about that were people who weren't voting for her to begin with


So the people voting for her don't care about her lies?


No, ask her supporters to explain her stances. They can't.

She is running off of "I'm a woman I am attacked for being a woman" etc etc, but since she bashed so many whites, being a white woman is going to be her demise XD
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Jiggy101011
10/31/19 4:19:37 PM
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karlpilkington4 posted...
FarFromFields posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
NeoShadowhen posted...
FarFromFields posted...
She's literally part Native American.


For the record, I dont care about any of this at all.

But there is no evidence she is part Native American. Maybe Central American. DNA tests do not test for Native American.

Although I guess Native Central American is still Native American, but that isnt what she said or meant.

At least thats what I heard. Could be bullshit. I havent looked into it, because as I said, I dont care about any of this at all.


"It's important to note I am not a tribal citizen," Warren said, "and I should have been more mindful of the distinction with tribal citizenship and tribal sovereignty."

Warren apologized last week to Cherokee Nation Principal Chief Bill John Baker for a DNA test she released in October that she said showed "strong evidence" of Native American ancestry dating back several generations.

This actually contradicts your point instead of supporting it. She told the truth about having Native ancestry. She never claimed to be a tribal citizen.


My only point is that she lied, and then apologized for stating that she was Native American when applying to Harvard.
I know I've made mistakes. I am sorry for harm I have caused. - Elizabeth Warren

Idk whats so hard to get.


What are your thoughts on Trump lying daily?
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defauIt
10/31/19 4:20:02 PM
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I believe she believed she was indian
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Gobstoppers12
10/31/19 4:20:37 PM
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She also lies about being fired from her teaching job because she got pregnant. Kinda seems habitual at this point.
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konokonohamaru
10/31/19 4:22:32 PM
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As an Asian American who suffers racial discrimination in college admissions, I'm unironically offended by her because of this.
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Bishop9800
10/31/19 4:26:37 PM
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Jiggy101011 posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
FarFromFields posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
NeoShadowhen posted...
FarFromFields posted...
She's literally part Native American.


For the record, I dont care about any of this at all.

But there is no evidence she is part Native American. Maybe Central American. DNA tests do not test for Native American.

Although I guess Native Central American is still Native American, but that isnt what she said or meant.

At least thats what I heard. Could be bullshit. I havent looked into it, because as I said, I dont care about any of this at all.


"It's important to note I am not a tribal citizen," Warren said, "and I should have been more mindful of the distinction with tribal citizenship and tribal sovereignty."

Warren apologized last week to Cherokee Nation Principal Chief Bill John Baker for a DNA test she released in October that she said showed "strong evidence" of Native American ancestry dating back several generations.

This actually contradicts your point instead of supporting it. She told the truth about having Native ancestry. She never claimed to be a tribal citizen.


My only point is that she lied, and then apologized for stating that she was Native American when applying to Harvard.
I know I've made mistakes. I am sorry for harm I have caused. - Elizabeth Warren

Idk whats so hard to get.


What are your thoughts on Trump lying daily?


@karlpilkington4. Care to answer that?
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CyricZ
10/31/19 4:28:06 PM
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So a mistake is equivalent to a lie?

Karl, would you say your birth is a lie, then?
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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 4:28:41 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...
Jiggy101011 posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
FarFromFields posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
NeoShadowhen posted...
FarFromFields posted...
She's literally part Native American.


For the record, I dont care about any of this at all.

But there is no evidence she is part Native American. Maybe Central American. DNA tests do not test for Native American.

Although I guess Native Central American is still Native American, but that isnt what she said or meant.

At least thats what I heard. Could be bullshit. I havent looked into it, because as I said, I dont care about any of this at all.


"It's important to note I am not a tribal citizen," Warren said, "and I should have been more mindful of the distinction with tribal citizenship and tribal sovereignty."

Warren apologized last week to Cherokee Nation Principal Chief Bill John Baker for a DNA test she released in October that she said showed "strong evidence" of Native American ancestry dating back several generations.

This actually contradicts your point instead of supporting it. She told the truth about having Native ancestry. She never claimed to be a tribal citizen.


My only point is that she lied, and then apologized for stating that she was Native American when applying to Harvard.
I know I've made mistakes. I am sorry for harm I have caused. - Elizabeth Warren

Idk whats so hard to get.


What are your thoughts on Trump lying daily?


@karlpilkington4. Care to answer that?


I was in the process of making a new topic, please dont tag me.

Tell me what Trump lied about today specifically.
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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 4:30:24 PM
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Cyric, your behavior is uncalled for.
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CyricZ
10/31/19 4:34:18 PM
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Karl, you're a bad faith operator. One of the worst on this site.

No amount of derision from your pushing of lies and deceit is too great.

Close your account.
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konokonohamaru
10/31/19 4:40:56 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
FarFromFields posted...
She's literally part Native American.


What %? More than a quarter?


1/1000th more like

The pathetic thing is that the Native American tribe that she claimed to be part of actually came out and said it's not based on DNA anyway
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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 4:43:15 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
FarFromFields posted...
She's literally part Native American.


What %? More than a quarter?


Sen. Elizabeth Warrens newly released DNA results show that the Democrats Native American ancestry is roughly the same as that of the average white American, and may be less.

A 2014 study by Harvard University and 23andMe found that European Americans tested overall for 0.18 percent Native American ancestry, while Ms. Warrens results show she has anywhere from 0.09 percent to 1.5 percent.

This means that the DNA test shows that Warren is actually LESS NATIVE AMERICAN than the average American of European ancestry, said Cornell Law School professor William A. Jacobson


lmao
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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 4:45:07 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
CyricZ posted...
Karl, you're a bad faith operator. One of the worst on this site.

No amount of derision from your pushing of lies and deceit is too great.

Close your account.

He also always seems to show up when Funbazooka is in purgatory and acts exacly like him, almost as if...


I just got out of Purgatory. I only have one account, and wouldn't create a username called "funbazooka", no offense to him.
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