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MrResetti 10/10/19 2:41:45 PM #1:	A 24oz beer is a tall boy, a 16oz beer is a pounder Get it right. --- https://imgur.com/GRZEGPm https://imgur.com/OeMgQZT <cite>MrResetti posted [p:928596571] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>A 24oz beer is a tall boy, a 16oz beer is a pounder Get it right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SquantoZ 10/10/19 2:42:10 PM #2:	Take that, angtheists! --- http://imgon.net/di-GSSE.gif https://imgur.com/FoV5u <cite>SquantoZ posted [p:928596589] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>Take that, angtheists! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mistere Man 10/10/19 2:44:25 PM #4:	I have personally met them so yes. Heck I have met lots of Jesus's --- Water+Fall=Radiation. <cite>Mistere Man posted [p:928596688] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>I have personally met them so yes. Heck I have met lots of Jesus's</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 10/10/19 2:46:42 PM #5:	I never bought the "historical evidence" of him. Im kinda inclined to believe that no, he was not a real person. or maybe he's based on multiple people who existed possibly. but I don't think an actual individual Jesus existed. <cite>Zikten posted [p:928596781] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>I never bought the "historical evidence" of him. Im kinda inclined to believe that no, he was not a real person. or maybe he's based on multiple people who existed possibly. but I don't think an actual individual Jesus existed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/10/19 2:50:36 PM #6:	Mary and Joseph wandered back to Bethlehem for a census. Yeshua bin Nazareth is documented to have existed. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:928596936] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>Mary and Joseph wandered back to Bethlehem for a census. Yeshua bin Nazareth is documented to have existed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 10/10/19 2:56:34 PM #7:	Zikten posted... I never bought the "historical evidence" of him. You must not buy a lot of established history. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:928597162] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>I never bought the "historical evidence" of him. </quote> You must not buy a lot of established history. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 10/10/19 2:57:40 PM #8:	I do. there is scant historical evidence of Jesus. <cite>Zikten posted [p:928597204] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>I do. there is scant historical evidence of Jesus.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 10/10/19 2:58:34 PM #9:	i'm not sure. I think there could have been a jewish reformist in the time and region that the jesus figure was later based on. I'm pretty agnostic on the idea of jesus existing beyond that --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:928597236] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>i'm not sure. I think there could have been a jewish reformist in the time and region that the jesus figure was later based on. I'm pretty agnostic on the idea of jesus existing beyond that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 10/10/19 2:59:46 PM #10:	Zikten posted... I do. there is scant historical evidence of Jesus. As much as there is for a ton of historical figures. The only reason people question Jesus is the tie to religion. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:928597282] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>I do. there is scant historical evidence of Jesus.</quote> As much as there is for a ton of historical figures. The only reason people question Jesus is the tie to religion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 10/10/19 3:01:35 PM #11:	Zikten posted... I never bought the "historical evidence" of him. Im kinda inclined to believe that no, he was not a real person. or maybe he's based on multiple people who existed possibly. but I don't think an actual individual Jesus existed. That's how I see it. He's more of an archetype and his life story is probably a compilation based on many people and events. --- #TrashyTrump #LockTrumpUp <cite>Machete posted [p:928597348] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>I never bought the "historical evidence" of him. Im kinda inclined to believe that no, he was not a real person. or maybe he's based on multiple people who existed possibly. but I don't think an actual individual Jesus existed.</quote> That's how I see it. He's more of an archetype and his life story is probably a compilation based on many people and events.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 10/10/19 3:03:48 PM #12:	Machete posted... That's how I see it. He's more of an archetype and his life story is probably a compilation based on many people and events. While there's "scant evidence " for the life of Jesus, there's no evidence for that. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:928597450] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>Machete posted... </cite> <quote>That's how I see it. He's more of an archetype and his life story is probably a compilation based on many people and events.</quote> While there's "scant evidence " for the life of Jesus, there's no evidence for that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 10/10/19 3:04:15 PM #13:	Absolutely. His divine nature is the questionable aspect. I won't say he isn't the king of kings, but I cannot lie about my skepticism. This is understandable, as one of the 12 was a skeptic. Upon hearing about the resurrection of Jesus, Thomas literally said something along the lines of unless I put my hand in his wounds, I will not believe. As one of the 12, his eyes bore witness to everything Jesus did, yet he still doubted. How much more of a stretch is it to imagine that someone born some 2000 years later, and didn't witness Jesus at all, would have doubts? --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018. Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 100000 losses. <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:928597468] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>Absolutely. His divine nature is the questionable aspect. I won't say he isn't the king of kings, but I cannot lie about my skepticism. This is understandable, as one of the 12 was a skeptic. Upon hearing about the resurrection of Jesus, Thomas literally said something along the lines of unless I put my hand in his wounds, I will not believe. As one of the 12, his eyes bore witness to everything Jesus did, yet he still doubted. How much more of a stretch is it to imagine that someone born some 2000 years later, and didn't witness Jesus at all, would have doubts? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 10/10/19 3:10:59 PM #14:	vigorm0rtis posted... Machete posted... That's how I see it. He's more of an archetype and his life story is probably a compilation based on many people and events. While there's "scant evidence " for the life of Jesus, there's no evidence for that. I mean it's basically how mythology works. Different people and events are compiled into archetypes and exaggerated to become larger than life. There are an absurd number of examples throughout mythology of many regions. I just see Christianity as "mythology that is still practiced currently by some" --- #DisastrousDonald #LockTrumpUp <cite>Machete posted [p:928597728] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>vigorm0rtis posted...</cite> <quote>Machete posted... </cite> <quote>That's how I see it. He's more of an archetype and his life story is probably a compilation based on many people and events.</quote> While there's "scant evidence " for the life of Jesus, there's no evidence for that. </quote> I mean it's basically how mythology works. Different people and events are compiled into archetypes and exaggerated to become larger than life. There are an absurd number of examples throughout mythology of many regions. I just see Christianity as "mythology that is still practiced currently by some"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paerarru 10/10/19 3:36:30 PM #15:	Yes. There's very little historical evidence but that's about what you'd expect for some random preacher. Were some facts of his life exaggerated or even outright fabricated after his death? Possibly. The Gospels actually contradict themselves, so. Still, some parts may well be true. --- Hottest K-Pop Girl Group http://challonge.com/96st4ysk <cite>paerarru posted [p:928598725] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>Yes. There's very little historical evidence but that's about what you'd expect for some random preacher. Were some facts of his life exaggerated or even outright fabricated after his death? Possibly. The Gospels actually contradict themselves, so. Still, some parts may well be true.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_A_Battery 10/10/19 3:41:10 PM #18:	Yeah he existed. <cite>A_A_Battery posted [p:928598912] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>Yeah he existed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wewillrocku 10/10/19 3:47:21 PM #19:	no because nobody who has such legends written about him existed. <cite>Wewillrocku posted [p:928599137] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>no because nobody who has such legends written about him existed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/10/19 3:48:47 PM #20:	Wewillrocku posted... no because nobody who has such legends written about him existed. I'm reasonably certain Chuck Norris is an actual person. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:928599192] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>Wewillrocku posted...</cite> <quote>no because nobody who has such legends written about him existed.</quote> I'm reasonably certain Chuck Norris is an actual person.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wewillrocku 10/10/19 3:50:09 PM #21:	Questionmarktarius posted... Wewillrocku posted... no because nobody who has such legends written about him existed. I'm reasonably certain Chuck Norris is an actual person. are you just as certain that jesus' life is a joke? <cite>Wewillrocku posted [p:928599238] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Wewillrocku posted...</cite> <quote>no because nobody who has such legends written about him existed.</quote> I'm reasonably certain Chuck Norris is an actual person.</quote> are you just as certain that jesus' life is a joke?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/10/19 3:51:55 PM #22:	Wewillrocku posted... Questionmarktarius posted... Wewillrocku posted... no because nobody who has such legends written about him existed. I'm reasonably certain Chuck Norris is an actual person. are you just as certain that jesus' life is a joke? That was Brian of Nazareth. Totally different guy. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:928599307] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>Wewillrocku posted...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Wewillrocku posted...</cite> <quote>no because nobody who has such legends written about him existed.</quote> I'm reasonably certain Chuck Norris is an actual person.</quote> are you just as certain that jesus' life is a joke?</quote> That was Brian of Nazareth. Totally different guy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamer167 10/10/19 3:56:09 PM #23:	God in human form that was conceived by the virgin Mary and died for our sins only to rise from the dead and eventually ascended into Heaven? Probably not I do believe there could have been a guy possibly named Jesus during the same time period that was spreading the same message though. <cite>gamer167 posted [p:928599471] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>God in human form that was conceived by the virgin Mary and died for our sins only to rise from the dead and eventually ascended into Heaven? Probably not I do believe there could have been a guy possibly named Jesus during the same time period that was spreading the same message though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wewillrocku 10/10/19 3:56:33 PM #24:	ecks dee, you and your zingers. <cite>Wewillrocku posted [p:928599488] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>ecks dee, you and your zingers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/10/19 4:00:28 PM #25:	He's really no more established then a lot of randos who lived before good recordkeeping. It's mostly later second and third hand mentions of some dude that may have preached and been killed. So maybe? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:928599638] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>He's really no more established then a lot of randos who lived before good recordkeeping. It's mostly later second and third hand mentions of some dude that may have preached and been killed. So maybe?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 10/10/19 5:03:03 PM #26:	Machete posted... I mean it's basically how mythology works. Different people and events are compiled into archetypes and exaggerated to become larger than life. There are an absurd number of examples throughout mythology of many regions. I just see Christianity as "mythology that is still practiced currently by some" No, I get it. You don't know the difference between how we establish what is real and what isn't in the practice of history. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:928601960] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>Machete posted... </cite> <quote>I mean it's basically how mythology works. Different people and events are compiled into archetypes and exaggerated to become larger than life. There are an absurd number of examples throughout mythology of many regions. I just see Christianity as "mythology that is still practiced currently by some"</quote> No, I get it. You don't know the difference between how we establish what is real and what isn't in the practice of history. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tonyjaa 10/10/19 5:09:59 PM #27:	I believe 100% Jesus existed and died for our sins and no one will ever be able to convince me otherwise <cite>Tonyjaa posted [p:928602238] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>I believe 100% Jesus existed and died for our sins and no one will ever be able to convince me otherwise </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/10/19 5:11:37 PM #28:	Tonyjaa posted... I believe 100% Jesus existed and died for our sins and no one will ever be able to convince me otherwise That's the issue with beliefs to be honest. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:928602296] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>Tonyjaa posted...</cite> <quote>I believe 100% Jesus existed and died for our sins and no one will ever be able to convince me otherwise </quote> That's the issue with beliefs to be honest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 10/10/19 5:17:02 PM #29:	Wewillrocku posted... no because nobody who has such legends written about him existed. Someone hasn't heard of every sacral king in history. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:928602530] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>Wewillrocku posted... </cite> <quote>no because nobody who has such legends written about him existed.</quote> Someone hasn't heard of every sacral king in history. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 10/10/19 5:20:59 PM #30:	vigorm0rtis posted... Machete posted... I mean it's basically how mythology works. Different people and events are compiled into archetypes and exaggerated to become larger than life. There are an absurd number of examples throughout mythology of many regions. I just see Christianity as "mythology that is still practiced currently by some" No, I get it. You don't know the difference between how we establish what is real and what isn't in the practice of history. No, you don't get it. You are shitposting and trolling for some reason. You're dismissed. --- #TrollishTrump #LockTrumpUp <cite>Machete posted [p:928602702] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>vigorm0rtis posted...</cite> <quote>Machete posted... </cite> <quote>I mean it's basically how mythology works. Different people and events are compiled into archetypes and exaggerated to become larger than life. There are an absurd number of examples throughout mythology of many regions. I just see Christianity as "mythology that is still practiced currently by some"</quote> No, I get it. You don't know the difference between how we establish what is real and what isn't in the practice of history. </quote> No, you don't get it. You are shitposting and trolling for some reason. You're dismissed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 10/10/19 5:28:55 PM #31:	Machete posted... No, you don't get it. You are shitposting and trolling for some reason. You're dismissed. I was a paleographer in my previous life. Paleographers and archaeologists are the forensic pathologists of history. I have a really good idea about how and why historians believe what they do. You obviously don't. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:928602993] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>Machete posted... </cite> <quote>No, you don't get it. You are shitposting and trolling for some reason. You're dismissed.</quote> I was a paleographer in my previous life. Paleographers and archaeologists are the forensic pathologists of history. I have a really good idea about how and why historians believe what they do. You obviously don't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 10/10/19 5:52:00 PM #32:	vigorm0rtis posted... Machete posted... No, you don't get it. You are shitposting and trolling for some reason. You're dismissed. I was a paleographer in my previous life. Paleographers and archaeologists are the forensic pathologists of history. I have a really good idea about how and why historians believe what they do. You obviously don't. Define "previous life" --- #DamagedDonald #LockTrumpUp <cite>Machete posted [p:928603915] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>vigorm0rtis posted...</cite> <quote>Machete posted... </cite> <quote>No, you don't get it. You are shitposting and trolling for some reason. You're dismissed.</quote> I was a paleographer in my previous life. Paleographers and archaeologists are the forensic pathologists of history. I have a really good idea about how and why historians believe what they do. You obviously don't. </quote> Define "previous life"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 10/10/19 5:54:02 PM #33:	Machete posted... Define "previous life" Until about 15 years ago when I started making more money in the side hustle and decided to ditch paleography. It was more interesting, but I wasn't going to go for my Ph.D. so my advancement options were limited. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:928604008] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>Machete posted... </cite> <quote>Define "previous life"</quote> Until about 15 years ago when I started making more money in the side hustle and decided to ditch paleography. It was more interesting, but I wasn't going to go for my Ph.D. so my advancement options were limited. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 10/10/19 5:58:34 PM #34:	Oh. Back to dismissed. --- #TroglodyteTrump #LockTrumpUp <cite>Machete posted [p:928604177] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>Oh. Back to dismissed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 10/10/19 5:59:06 PM #35:	Machete posted... Oh. Back to dismissed. Enjoy amateur hour. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:928604192] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>Machete posted... </cite> <quote>Oh. Back to dismissed.</quote> Enjoy amateur hour. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thunder_Armor 10/10/19 5:59:16 PM #36:	The idea of a prophesied Messiah had been established hundreds of years before Jesus. Do I think there was a Jewish man who gained a following circa 30 AD for being the prophesied Messiah? Yeah, I think that probably happened. Notwithstanding how many of the Biblical stories were embellished on after the fact. --- I should go. <cite>Thunder_Armor posted [p:928604196] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>The idea of a prophesied Messiah had been established hundreds of years before Jesus. Do I think there was a Jewish man who gained a following circa 30 AD for being the prophesied Messiah? Yeah, I think that probably happened. Notwithstanding how many of the Biblical stories were embellished on after the fact. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Politics 10/10/19 5:59:38 PM #37:	I made a topic about this a few weeks ago. I assume he in a literal sense didn't but it might of been loosely based on something idk <cite>Politics posted [p:928604212] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>I made a topic about this a few weeks ago. I assume he in a literal sense didn't but it might of been loosely based on something idk</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hotel_Security 10/10/19 6:02:08 PM #38:	He quite likely existed. This isn't really disputed. Christianity didn't just pop up out of nowhere and there's even mention of various rabble going on in Jerusalem in ancient Roman writings, It's just the whole "he's the Son of God" thing that is more in question. no because nobody who has such legends written about him existed. You're right. That legend about the guy who cut down the apple tree is totally fake so he must be not real. <cite>Hotel_Security posted [p:928604306] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>He quite likely existed. This isn't really disputed. Christianity didn't just pop up out of nowhere and there's even mention of various rabble going on in Jerusalem in ancient Roman writings, It's just the whole "he's the Son of God" thing that is more in question. no because nobody who has such legends written about him existed. You're right. That legend about the guy who cut down the apple tree is totally fake so he must be not real.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThanksUglyGod 10/10/19 6:03:57 PM #39:	Sure, I see him in the face of every child. <cite>ThanksUglyGod posted [p:928604359] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>Sure, I see him in the face of every child.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 10/10/19 6:07:23 PM #40:	Politics posted... I made a topic about this a few weeks ago. I assume he in a literal sense didn't but it might of been loosely based on something idk We have about as much "reliable" info about Jesus as we do about Vortigern, but Vortigern wasn't the subject of a mystery cult that turned into a "legit" religion so people don't even try to dispute his existence. Nonetheless, we have equal parts fantasy nonsense about Vortigern-- he was the basis for the myth of King Arthur. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:928604468] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>Politics posted... </cite> <quote>I made a topic about this a few weeks ago. I assume he in a literal sense didn't but it might of been loosely based on something idk</quote> We have about as much "reliable" info about Jesus as we do about Vortigern, but Vortigern wasn't the subject of a mystery cult that turned into a "legit" religion so people don't even try to dispute his existence. Nonetheless, we have equal parts fantasy nonsense about Vortigern-- he was the basis for the myth of King Arthur. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wewillrocku 10/10/19 6:19:51 PM #41:	a legit religion. lol. <cite>Wewillrocku posted [p:928604923] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>a legit religion. lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrToothHasYou 10/10/19 6:20:26 PM #42:	MrResetti posted... A 24oz beer is a tall boy, a 16oz beer is a pounder Get it right. This is correct --- http://weareontherun.bandcamp.com ^^^^^ HEY! ^^^ LISTEN! ^^^^^ <cite>MrToothHasYou posted [p:928604954] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>MrResetti posted... </cite> <quote>A 24oz beer is a tall boy, a 16oz beer is a pounder Get it right.</quote>This is correct </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 10/10/19 6:40:29 PM #43:	Wewillrocku posted... a legit religion. lol. Didn't see the quotes, eh? It's alright, working at Taco Bell doesn't require full literacy. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:928605624] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>Wewillrocku posted... </cite> <quote>a legit religion. lol.</quote>Didn't see the quotes, eh? It's alright, working at Taco Bell doesn't require full literacy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wewillrocku 10/10/19 6:44:26 PM #44:	vigorm0rtis posted... Wewillrocku posted... a legit religion. lol. Didn't see the quotes, eh? It's alright, working at Taco Bell doesn't require full literacy. lmao what? <cite>Wewillrocku posted [p:928605786] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>vigorm0rtis posted...</cite> <quote>Wewillrocku posted... </cite> <quote>a legit religion. lol.</quote>Didn't see the quotes, eh? It's alright, working at Taco Bell doesn't require full literacy. </quote> lmao what?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 10/10/19 6:49:34 PM #45:	No, he was invented by the elites as an example for the underclasses to follow while the elites continued fucking them over. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 https://imgur.com/ZkQRDsR - https://imgur.com/2x2gtgP <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:928605943] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>No, he was invented by the elites as an example for the underclasses to follow while the elites continued fucking them over.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inferno Dive Dragoon 10/10/19 6:58:26 PM #46:	Sure. I rather doubt all that "born of the divine" stuff though. --- Les aristocrates a la lanterne! Les aristocrates on les pendra! <cite>Inferno Dive Dragoon posted [p:928606260] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>Sure. I rather doubt all that "born of the divine" stuff though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 10/10/19 9:50:01 PM #47:	vigorm0rtis posted... Wewillrocku posted... a legit religion. lol. Didn't see the quotes, eh? It's alright, working at Taco Bell doesn't require full literacy. Oh okay so what you're saying is you want on the list of people who troll and shitpost and got run off the board. I'll pass the word around, friendo. --- #DepravedDonald #LockTrumpUp <cite>Machete posted [p:928613024] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>vigorm0rtis posted...</cite> <quote>Wewillrocku posted... </cite> <quote>a legit religion. lol.</quote>Didn't see the quotes, eh? It's alright, working at Taco Bell doesn't require full literacy. </quote> Oh okay so what you're saying is you want on the list of people who troll and shitpost and got run off the board. I'll pass the word around, friendo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverDownward 10/10/19 9:50:44 PM #48:	Yes. Almost all scholars believe a "Jesus Christ" existed, and even then I believe regardless because I'm a Christian. --- take me somewhere nice <cite>EverDownward posted [p:928613047] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>Yes. Almost all scholars believe a "Jesus Christ" existed, and even then I believe regardless because I'm a Christian.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 10/10/19 10:04:54 PM #49:	It doesn't really matter to me. There could have been a single real person, or it could have been based on the stories of multiple people. Either way, there's no evidence that Jesus existed as described in the Bible. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:928613585] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>It doesn't really matter to me. There could have been a single real person, or it could have been based on the stories of multiple people. Either way, there's no evidence that Jesus existed as described in the Bible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paerarru 10/11/19 2:23:58 PM #50:	Thunder_Armor posted... The idea of a prophesied Messiah had been established hundreds of years before Jesus. Do I think there was a Jewish man who gained a following circa 30 AD for being the prophesied Messiah? Yeah, I think that probably happened. Notwithstanding how many of the Biblical stories were embellished on after the fact. This is a good post. You have to look at the Gospels and the accounts of the Apostles and the followers of Jesus in the right light to understand what they're doing. Yeah, there were other Messianic figures throughout history, more or less documented, even around the time of Jesus himself. That should tell you not that Jesus is a hodgepodge of Messianic figures (not historically at least), but rather that he was eventually the most successful one. To date. Nobody would just make up a Messiah, and actually gather a following, but they could make up stories about him (or not, depending on how strong and literal your faith is). But you need the guy. He was a cult leader, the guy. A religion is a well established cult. Is there something special about this cult that sets it apart from any other cult? Well, that part is faith. Hotel_Security posted... He quite likely existed. This isn't really disputed. Christianity didn't just pop up out of nowhere and there's even mention of various rabble going on in Jerusalem in ancient Roman writings during Nero's reign. Heck, some try to blame Nero for killing Jesus (he's not very popular) but it's likely he had little knowledge of the details. It's just the whole "he's the Son of God" thing that is more in question. no because nobody who has such legends written about him existed. You're right. That legend about the guy who cut down the apple tree is totally fake so he must be not real. Yeah, that's silly. People make up stories about people all the time. Been doing it all through history. And back in the day when people were more superstitious (I actually don't like saying that because it's not like people were more gullible or anything, it's just that people didn't have much science) you could get away with some pretty wild stories. I actually think most of the mythological figures and pantheons throughout the world were real people and events, just very embellished after the fact. There are often real bases for "myths". --- Hottest K-Pop Girl Group http://challonge.com/96st4ysk <cite>paerarru posted [p:928637184] in Do you bel... [t:78077035]...</cite> <quote>Thunder_Armor posted...</cite> <quote>The idea of a prophesied Messiah had been established hundreds of years before Jesus. Do I think there was a Jewish man who gained a following circa 30 AD for being the prophesied Messiah? Yeah, I think that probably happened. Notwithstanding how many of the Biblical stories were embellished on after the fact.</quote> This is a good post. You have to look at the Gospels and the accounts of the Apostles and the followers of Jesus in the right light to understand what they're doing. Yeah, there were other Messianic figures throughout history, more or less documented, even around the time of Jesus himself. That should tell you not that Jesus is a hodgepodge of Messianic figures (not historically at least), but rather that he was eventually the most successful one. To date. Nobody would just make up a Messiah, and actually gather a following, but they could make up stories about him (or not, depending on how strong and literal your faith is). But you need the guy. He was a cult leader, the guy. A religion is a well established cult. Is there something special about this cult that sets it apart from any other cult? Well, that part is faith. Hotel_Security posted...</cite> <quote>He quite likely existed. This isn't really disputed. Christianity didn't just pop up out of nowhere and there's even mention of various rabble going on in Jerusalem in ancient Roman writings during Nero's reign. Heck, some try to blame Nero for killing Jesus (he's not very popular) but it's likely he had little knowledge of the details. It's just the whole "he's the Son of God" thing that is more in question. no because nobody who has such legends written about him existed. You're right. That legend about the guy who cut down the apple tree is totally fake so he must be not real.</quote> Yeah, that's silly. People make up stories about people all the time. Been doing it all through history. And back in the day when people were more superstitious (I actually don't like saying that because it's not like people were more gullible or anything, it's just that people didn't have much science) you could get away with some pretty wild stories. I actually think most of the mythological figures and pantheons throughout the world were real people and events, just very embellished after the fact. There are often real bases for "myths".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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