Current Events > Alternate reality: Ledger - Leto film role swap

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greatmonkeybaby 10/09/19 7:12:57 PM #1:	1. Would Heath Ledger in Leto's place have been able to pull off Suicide Squad's "Joker" role with the same script & direction, etc? Or is the Suicide Squad "Joker" a doomed role in anyone's hands? 2. Were the Joker's wardrobe & tattoos Leto's idea? --- D press shun <cite>greatmonkeybaby posted [p:928563010] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote>1. Would Heath Ledger in Leto's place have been able to pull off Suicide Squad's "Joker" role with the same script & direction, etc? Or is the Suicide Squad "Joker" a doomed role in anyone's hands? 2. Were the Joker's wardrobe & tattoos Leto's idea?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
greatmonkeybaby 10/09/19 7:14:20 PM #2:	& 3. How well would Leto do (or have done) as the Dark Knights Joker compared to Ledger? --- D press shun <cite>greatmonkeybaby posted [p:928563069] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote>& 3. How well would Leto do (or have done) as the Dark Knights Joker compared to Ledger?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 10/09/19 7:36:05 PM #3:	Joker in Suicide Squad was stupid to begin with, so no --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:928564002] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote>Joker in Suicide Squad was stupid to begin with, so no</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 10/09/19 7:42:38 PM #4:	I want to know whos idea it was to make him a jugalo & have tattoos, especially the one on the **ing forehead. --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:928564295] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote>I want to know whos idea it was to make him a jugalo & have tattoos, especially the one on the **ing forehead.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
greatmonkeybaby 10/09/19 7:50:23 PM #5:	Garioshi posted... Joker in Suicide Squad was stupid to begin with, so no This is the conclusion i came to when i thought about the perspectives in my "is Leto's Joker redeemable" thread. Like yeah it wasn't good, but considering it was probably doomed to fail from the beginning & was a left with few scenes & was more of a support joker than a main antagonist. iPhone_7 posted... I want to know whos idea it was to make him a jugalo & have tattoos, especially the one on the **ing forehead. This! ^ "Were the Joker's wardrobe & tattoos Leto's idea?" Because who ever came up with that mess set him up to fail even more. --- D press shun <cite>greatmonkeybaby posted [p:928564602] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote>Garioshi posted...</cite> <quote>Joker in Suicide Squad was stupid to begin with, so no</quote> This is the conclusion i came to when i thought about the perspectives in my "is Leto's Joker redeemable" thread. Like yeah it wasn't good, but considering it was probably doomed to fail from the beginning & was a left with few scenes & was more of a support joker than a main antagonist. iPhone_7 posted...</cite> <quote>I want to know whos idea it was to make him a jugalo & have tattoos, especially the one on the **ing forehead.</quote> This! ^ "Were the Joker's wardrobe & tattoos Leto's idea?" Because who ever came up with that mess set him up to fail even more.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
greatmonkeybaby 10/10/19 3:09:33 AM #6:	greatmonkeybaby posted... & 3. How well would Leto do (or have done) as the Dark Knights Joker compared to Ledger? Because as I said on another thread my opinion is: Given a Joker role in a project like The Dark Knight, it's possible that Leto Joker would have been epic actually with the serious tone the series provided & the darker aesthetic Leto would have conjured instead. --- D press shun <cite>greatmonkeybaby posted [p:928578944] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote>greatmonkeybaby posted...</cite> <quote>& 3. How well would Leto do (or have done) as the Dark Knights Joker compared to Ledger?</quote> Because as I said on another thread my opinion is: Given a Joker role in a project like The Dark Knight, it's possible that Leto Joker would have been epic actually with the serious tone the series provided & the darker aesthetic Leto would have conjured instead.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
greatmonkeybaby 10/11/19 2:59:18 PM #7:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QORFeYb-zSU" data-time=" --- D press shun <cite>greatmonkeybaby posted [p:928638548] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QORFeYb-zSU" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 10/11/19 3:00:28 PM #8:	I feel like the design of the character and the poop writing would overwhelm any acting ability from Ledger. As for Leto in TDK, well he's supposed to be a pretty good actor so maybe he could pull it off --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:928638594] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote>I feel like the design of the character and the poop writing would overwhelm any acting ability from Ledger. As for Leto in TDK, well he's supposed to be a pretty good actor so maybe he could pull it off</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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greatmonkeybaby 10/11/19 3:56:31 PM #10:	MC_BatCommander posted... I feel like the design of the character and the poop writing would overwhelm any acting ability from Ledger. As for Leto in TDK, well he's supposed to be a pretty good actor so maybe he could pull it off metallica846 posted... I would love to see Leto in TDK, he's an amazing actor and I think Nolan would have used his skills appropriately. Leto Joker was so disappointing because it was just a terrible bit role coming off Ledgers opus of a role. Nothing could really compare and since it was so shit, it was intensified 10x. --- D press shun <cite>greatmonkeybaby posted [p:928640745] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote>I feel like the design of the character and the poop writing would overwhelm any acting ability from Ledger. As for Leto in TDK, well he's supposed to be a pretty good actor so maybe he could pull it off</quote> metallica846 posted...</cite> <quote>I would love to see Leto in TDK, he's an amazing actor and I think Nolan would have used his skills appropriately. Leto Joker was so disappointing because it was just a terrible bit role coming off Ledgers opus of a role. Nothing could really compare and since it was so shit, it was intensified 10x.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 10/11/19 3:59:55 PM #11:	Leto was let down by screenwriting, not acting skill. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:928640871] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote>Leto was let down by screenwriting, not acting skill. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 10/11/19 4:00:33 PM #12:	iPhone_7 posted... I want to know whos idea it was to make him a jugalo & have tattoos, especially the one on the ***ing forehead. this. that person should be fired --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:928640892] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote>iPhone_7 posted...</cite> <quote>I want to know whos idea it was to make him a jugalo & have tattoos, especially the one on the ***ing forehead.</quote> this. that person should be fired</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/11/19 4:03:14 PM #13:	DarkRoast posted... Leto was let down by screenwriting, not acting skill. That being said, while he could have easily recovered by saying after the fact that his personal interpretation of Joker would have been different but it's his job as an actor to stick to the tone and style of the script he was given, he instead doubled and tripled down on how it was amazing and the problem was that they cut too many of his scenes from the final version. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:928641005] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>Leto was let down by screenwriting, not acting skill. </quote> That being said, while he could have easily recovered by saying after the fact that his personal interpretation of Joker would have been different but it's his job as an actor to stick to the tone and style of the script he was given, he instead doubled and tripled down on how it was amazing and the problem was that they cut too many of his scenes from the final version.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
greatmonkeybaby 10/12/19 7:22:34 AM #14:	s0nicfan posted... DarkRoast posted... Leto was let down by screenwriting, not acting skill. That being said, while he could have easily recovered by saying after the fact that his personal interpretation of Joker would have been different but it's his job as an actor to stick to the tone and style of the script he was given, he instead doubled and tripled down on how it was amazing and the problem was that they cut too many of his scenes from the final version. True! Good perspective --- D press shun <cite>greatmonkeybaby posted [p:928665168] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>Leto was let down by screenwriting, not acting skill. </quote> That being said, while he could have easily recovered by saying after the fact that his personal interpretation of Joker would have been different but it's his job as an actor to stick to the tone and style of the script he was given, he instead doubled and tripled down on how it was amazing and the problem was that they cut too many of his scenes from the final version.</quote> True! Good perspective </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
itachi15243 10/12/19 7:50:33 AM #15:	Leto was literally forced into the tattoos makeup and very micromanaged by the director iirc. --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz <cite>itachi15243 posted [p:928665506] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote>Leto was literally forced into the tattoos makeup and very micromanaged by the director iirc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
greatmonkeybaby 10/12/19 8:15:38 AM #16:	itachi15243 posted... Leto was literally forced into the tattoos makeup and very micromanaged by the director iirc. Sounds like a nightmare --- D press shun <cite>greatmonkeybaby posted [p:928665904] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote>itachi15243 posted...</cite> <quote>Leto was literally forced into the tattoos makeup and very micromanaged by the director iirc. </quote> Sounds like a nightmare</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
greatmonkeybaby 10/13/19 1:11:42 AM #18:	Leto probably would have thrived in TDK as a dark Joker without looking like Soundcloud Marilyn Manson as a end result. --- D press shun <cite>greatmonkeybaby posted [p:928697350] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote>Leto probably would have thrived in TDK as a dark Joker without looking like Soundcloud Marilyn Manson as a end result.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
greatmonkeybaby 10/13/19 8:54:31 PM #19:	Now I wonder was The Dark Knight trilogy envisioned as a trilogy from the start or did it jist end up that way? --- D press shun <cite>greatmonkeybaby posted [p:928730268] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote>Now I wonder was The Dark Knight trilogy envisioned as a trilogy from the start or did it jist end up that way?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wewillrocku 10/13/19 8:55:41 PM #20:	heath ledger was what made dark knight's joker good --- The american prison system is a sorry mess but giving them game consoles isn't going to solve anything. Zurriah <cite>Wewillrocku posted [p:928730314] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote>heath ledger was what made dark knight's joker good</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
greatmonkeybaby 10/13/19 8:58:31 PM #21:	Wewillrocku posted... heath ledger was what made dark knight's joker good I feel that honestly --- D press shun <cite>greatmonkeybaby posted [p:928730405] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote>Wewillrocku posted...</cite> <quote>heath ledger was what made dark knight's joker good</quote> I feel that honestly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 10/13/19 9:02:42 PM #22:	It's seriously hard to say. Leto's performance was clearly a mix of Ledger, Jim Carrey and random yelling. I don't know if he's confident or creative enough to make it his own thing like Ledger was. If we hadn't seen anything like TDK Joker and Ledger brought forth something like it in Suicide Squad it's possible people might have wanted to see more from him. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:928730559] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote>It's seriously hard to say. Leto's performance was clearly a mix of Ledger, Jim Carrey and random yelling. I don't know if he's confident or creative enough to make it his own thing like Ledger was. If we hadn't seen anything like TDK Joker and Ledger brought forth something like it in Suicide Squad it's possible people might have wanted to see more from him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
greatmonkeybaby 10/14/19 12:49:14 AM #23:	Darmik posted... It's seriously hard to say. Leto's performance was clearly a mix of Ledger, Jim Carrey and random yelling. I don't know if he's confident or creative enough to make it his own thing like Ledger was. If we hadn't seen anything like TDK Joker and Ledger brought forth something like it in Suicide Squad it's possible people might have wanted to see more from him. Good analysis tbh! --- D press shun <cite>greatmonkeybaby posted [p:928738287] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>It's seriously hard to say. Leto's performance was clearly a mix of Ledger, Jim Carrey and random yelling. I don't know if he's confident or creative enough to make it his own thing like Ledger was. If we hadn't seen anything like TDK Joker and Ledger brought forth something like it in Suicide Squad it's possible people might have wanted to see more from him.</quote> Good analysis tbh!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
greatmonkeybaby 10/14/19 4:33:45 PM #24:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IozzbvYVw-o" data-time=" ^ this guy in TDK Joker role probably could have pulled it off. It wouldn't have been like Ledger's Joker but definitely better than Suicide Squad Joker. --- D press shun <cite>greatmonkeybaby posted [p:928762410] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IozzbvYVw-o" data-time=" ^ this guy in TDK Joker role probably could have pulled it off. It wouldn't have been like Ledger's Joker but definitely better than Suicide Squad Joker.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
au_gold 10/14/19 4:39:07 PM #25:	itachi15243 posted... Leto was literally forced into the tattoos makeup and very micromanaged by the director iirc. Really? I thought Leto made all of the aesthetic choices himself. --- Let me talk to your mother. Get your mother please. <cite>au_gold posted [p:928762638] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote>itachi15243 posted...</cite> <quote>Leto was literally forced into the tattoos makeup and very micromanaged by the director iirc. </quote> Really? I thought Leto made all of the aesthetic choices himself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
greatmonkeybaby 10/14/19 4:55:21 PM #26:	au_gold posted... itachi15243 posted... Leto was literally forced into the tattoos makeup and very micromanaged by the director iirc. Really? I thought Leto made all of the aesthetic choices himself. Damn foreal? If he did then he made some terrible choices --- D press shun <cite>greatmonkeybaby posted [p:928763298] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote>au_gold posted...</cite> <quote>itachi15243 posted...</cite> <quote>Leto was literally forced into the tattoos makeup and very micromanaged by the director iirc. </quote> Really? I thought Leto made all of the aesthetic choices himself.</quote> Damn foreal? If he did then he made some terrible choices</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
greatmonkeybaby 10/15/19 4:22:59 PM #27:	greatmonkeybaby posted... au_gold posted... itachi15243 posted... Leto was literally forced into the tattoos makeup and very micromanaged by the director iirc. Really? I thought Leto made all of the aesthetic choices himself. Damn foreal? If he did then he made some terrible choices But if that's the case the Ledger would have definitely worked his own magic had he done Suicide Squad! --- D press shun <cite>greatmonkeybaby posted [p:928806090] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote>greatmonkeybaby posted...</cite> <quote>au_gold posted...</cite> <quote>itachi15243 posted...</cite> <quote>Leto was literally forced into the tattoos makeup and very micromanaged by the director iirc. </quote> Really? I thought Leto made all of the aesthetic choices himself.</quote> Damn foreal? If he did then he made some terrible choices</quote> But if that's the case the Ledger would have definitely worked his own magic had he done Suicide Squad!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hotel_Security 10/15/19 4:24:22 PM #28:	This is a weird topic to bring up given that no one is going to even suggest that Leto would do better. The real question would be if Jack Nicholson could have pulled off the Dark Knight role...which he absolutely could...he's done sicker and darker characters than that for sure. But could Ledger pull off Jack's Joker? Maybe, maybe not. <cite>Hotel_Security posted [p:928806146] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote>This is a weird topic to bring up given that no one is going to even suggest that Leto would do better. The real question would be if Jack Nicholson could have pulled off the Dark Knight role...which he absolutely could...he's done sicker and darker characters than that for sure. But could Ledger pull off Jack's Joker? Maybe, maybe not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
greatmonkeybaby 10/16/19 2:58:46 AM #29:	Hotel_Security posted... This is a weird topic to bring up given that no one is going to even suggest that Leto would do better. The real question would be if Jack Nicholson could have pulled off the Dark Knight role...which he absolutely could...he's done sicker and darker characters than that for sure. But could Ledger pull off Jack's Joker? Maybe, maybe not. Why do you think it'd be easier to Jack to do Ledger's role than it would be for Ledger to do Jack's role? --- D press shun <cite>greatmonkeybaby posted [p:928828385] in Alternate ... [t:78075338]...</cite> <quote>Hotel_Security posted...</cite> <quote>This is a weird topic to bring up given that no one is going to even suggest that Leto would do better. The real question would be if Jack Nicholson could have pulled off the Dark Knight role...which he absolutely could...he's done sicker and darker characters than that for sure. But could Ledger pull off Jack's Joker? Maybe, maybe not.</quote> Why do you think it'd be easier to Jack to do Ledger's role than it would be for Ledger to do Jack's role?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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