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Hotel_Security
10/10/19 5:33:51 PM
#51:


This is what people said about doom clones until enough of them came out to create a genre.

This is a bit different. Literally reskinning entire bosses and sections.
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DarkRoast
10/10/19 5:34:48 PM
#52:


The animation is pretty impressive for being such a blatant rip-off.

Not sure how I feel about that


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s0nicfan
10/10/19 5:34:53 PM
#53:


Hotel_Security posted...
This is what people said about doom clones until enough of them came out to create a genre.

This is a bit different. Literally reskinning entire bosses and sections.


Except the game we're talking about doesn't do that.
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Abiz_
10/10/19 5:35:23 PM
#54:


Hotel_Security posted...
Literally reskinning entire bosses and sections.
It's not reskinning. If it was. That would be illegal.
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AceMos
10/10/19 5:41:52 PM
#55:


Darmik posted...
AceMos posted...
yea its a rip off but this is nothing new for the video game industry and good games have come from this kind of thing

and its not like this is some cheap knock off this still took alot of effort to make


I'm struggling to think of good games that were this blatant.

There has been plenty of direct copy cats like Gianna Sisters or Unearthed but every one I can think of were mediocre at best.

Note I'm talking about games that don't even hide what they're copying.

final fantasy riped of dragon quest
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DippinSauce
10/10/19 5:52:30 PM
#56:


You guys are so focused on the art style and looking at this at the most surface level.

The player character animations are 99.9% the same.

And you guys mention genre, but other games in this category play similar, but don't usually look alike.

Contra looks nothing like gunstar heroes and neither looks like cuphead.
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The Admiral
10/10/19 5:55:13 PM
#57:


DippinSauce posted...
You guys are so focused on the art style and looking at this at the most surface level.

The player character animations are 99.9% the same.

And you guys mention genre, but other games in this category play similar, but don't usually look alike.

Contra looks nothing like gunstar heroes and neither looks like cuphead.


I don't know if you've seen the mobile game store recently, but this is far less of a rip off than many of those games. There are literally 100 games that look identical to Candy Crush, for example.

Like I said, so long as they didn't steal any IP, this isn't a legal issue.
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Questionmarktarius
10/10/19 5:55:39 PM
#58:


AceMos posted...
final fantasy riped of dragon quest

Final Fantasy stole vastly more from Dungeons & Dragons than it did from Dragonquest.
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DarkRoast
10/10/19 5:55:42 PM
#59:


The Admiral posted...
I don't know if you've seen the mobile game store recently, but this is far less of a rip off than many of those games. There are literally 100 games that look identical to Candy Crush, for example.

Like I said, so long as they didn't steal any IP, this isn't a legal issue.


Candy Crush itself is a shameless ripoff of Bejeweled

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AceMos
10/10/19 6:01:11 PM
#60:


Questionmarktarius posted...
AceMos posted...
final fantasy riped of dragon quest

Final Fantasy stole vastly more from Dungeons & Dragons than it did from Dragonquest.

err no it was factually dragon quest it was going for this is well known
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Rikiaz
10/10/19 6:02:54 PM
#61:


AceMos posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
AceMos posted...
final fantasy riped of dragon quest

Final Fantasy stole vastly more from Dungeons & Dragons than it did from Dragonquest.

err no it was factually dragon quest it was going for this is well known

Its also factually Advanced Dungeons and Dragons and almost 1-for-1 copies entire systems from it. Also Dragon Quest just copies Ultima so what?
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AceMos
10/10/19 6:04:08 PM
#62:


Rikiaz posted...
AceMos posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
AceMos posted...
final fantasy riped of dragon quest

Final Fantasy stole vastly more from Dungeons & Dragons than it did from Dragonquest.

err no it was factually dragon quest it was going for this is well known

Its also factually Advanced Dungeons and Dragons and almost 1-for-1 copies entire systems from it. Also Dragon Quest just copies Ultima so what?

so my point stands good games have copied other things in the past
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s0nicfan
10/10/19 7:02:00 PM
#63:


DippinSauce posted...
You guys are so focused on the art style and looking at this at the most surface level.

The player character animations are 99.9% the same.

And you guys mention genre, but other games in this category play similar, but don't usually look alike.

Contra looks nothing like gunstar heroes and neither looks like cuphead.


Doom
Hexen
Marathon
Duke Nukem

4 games by 4 different companies.
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cjs28
10/10/19 7:06:09 PM
#64:


Something about the animation is weird. Like it was done in flash or something lol
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SuperShake666
10/10/19 7:10:05 PM
#65:


This is Chinese Bootleg-level of not giving a fuck.
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Darmik
10/10/19 7:23:31 PM
#66:


s0nicfan posted...
DippinSauce posted...
You guys are so focused on the art style and looking at this at the most surface level.

The player character animations are 99.9% the same.

And you guys mention genre, but other games in this category play similar, but don't usually look alike.

Contra looks nothing like gunstar heroes and neither looks like cuphead.


Doom
Hexen
Marathon
Duke Nukem

4 games by 4 different companies.


The only thing that makes those look similar is that they're all 90's FPS games in DOS. They still differentiated themselves through style and personality.
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CapnMuffin
10/10/19 7:31:29 PM
#67:


Indies are popular enough to have derivatives now. Welcome to the big leagues.
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Dragonblade01
10/10/19 7:39:05 PM
#68:


Looks like a pretty solid ripoff to me. I might play it if it comes out.
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untrustful
10/10/19 7:46:28 PM
#69:


It's too on the nose for me to give this the benefit of the doubt. Like yeah, they put work into this game, but that alone doesn't invalidate the imitation of art style, gameplay mechanics, animations, and the boss to boss encounters all in one.

If they did this without selling it, I'd be more comfortable with it as an homage. But this is an homage with a price tag, a successor to the Mona Lisa called the Mano Louis, the statue of liberty tribute called the sculpture of independence.

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Frosted_Midna
10/10/19 7:49:19 PM
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The cow boss seems kinda cool.
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KeeperOfShadows
10/10/19 7:51:51 PM
#71:


As long as it's not a direct copy, as in using actual assets from Cuphead as it's foundation, can't say that I care.

Clone games are nothing new or offensive.

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The_Scarecrow
10/11/19 2:19:59 AM
#72:


cjs28 posted...
Something about the animation is weird. Like it was done in flash or something lol


Its tweening.

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DarkRoast
10/11/19 7:39:54 AM
#73:


s0nicfan posted...
Doom
Hexen
Marathon
Duke Nukem

4 games by 4 different companies.


Doom and Hexen were both published by id software. Developed by different people but the same publisher.


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