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pinky0926 10/07/19 10:20:55 AM #1:	Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like - you can't convict a sitting president of a crime - a republican majority will never allow an impeachment - even if an impeachment happens you'll end up with mike pence I gotta wonder at this point if democrats are putting all their eggs in the wrong basket again --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:928451130] in So with th... [t:78069405]...</cite> <quote>Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like - you can't convict a sitting president of a crime - a republican majority will never allow an impeachment - even if an impeachment happens you'll end up with mike pence I gotta wonder at this point if democrats are putting all their eggs in the wrong basket again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 10/07/19 10:23:43 AM #2:	Republicans don't have the majority in the House, which is the part that votes to impeach. They do however have the majority in the Senate which decides whether or not he's guilty. --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://imgur.com/FKDXbHs <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:928451205] in So with th... [t:78069405]...</cite> <quote>Republicans don't have the majority in the House, which is the part that votes to impeach. They do however have the majority in the Senate which decides whether or not he's guilty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romulox28 10/07/19 10:23:46 AM #3:	its a pr stunt for the 2020 election imo --- https://imgur.com/LhwwG <cite>Romulox28 posted [p:928451207] in So with th... [t:78069405]...</cite> <quote>its a pr stunt for the 2020 election imo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 10/07/19 10:26:59 AM #4:	You can impeach without actually removing them from office. Actually, that would be the ideal if we can't get Pence to also be impeached alongside Trump, as it would effectively make Trump a lame duck president and his ego would prevent him from even considering resignation. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/x2KBsjI.png <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:928451307] in So with th... [t:78069405]...</cite> <quote>You can impeach without actually removing them from office. Actually, that would be the ideal if we can't get Pence to also be impeached alongside Trump, as it would effectively make Trump a lame duck president and his ego would prevent him from even considering resignation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/07/19 10:29:45 AM #5:	We should just abolish impeachment. If you break laws, you just go to court and get thrown in jail if sentenced to that. No more special treatment. nb4butsomeotherpresidentisupposedlylike Trump needs to be impeached because it is the right thing to do. Our society cares way too much about the expedience of holding people accountable. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:928451403] in So with th... [t:78069405]...</cite> <quote>We should just abolish impeachment. If you break laws, you just go to court and get thrown in jail if sentenced to that. No more special treatment. nb4butsomeotherpresidentisupposedlylike Trump needs to be impeached because it is the right thing to do. Our society cares way too much about the expedience of holding people accountable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 10/07/19 10:31:08 AM #6:	I think they just wanna see if 8 years straight of impeachment talk will just drive up sakes of their newest book --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:928451446] in So with th... [t:78069405]...</cite> <quote>I think they just wanna see if 8 years straight of impeachment talk will just drive up sakes of their newest book</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 10/07/19 10:33:55 AM #7:	hockeybub89 posted... We should just abolish impeachment. If you break laws, you just go to court and get thrown in jail if sentenced to that. No more special treatment. If you abolish impeachment what you really do os take away your one option to remove a criminal president, because its already been established you cant charge a sitting president with a crime. --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:928451520] in So with th... [t:78069405]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>We should just abolish impeachment. If you break laws, you just go to court and get thrown in jail if sentenced to that. No more special treatment.</quote> If you abolish impeachment what you really do os take away your one option to remove a criminal president, because its already been established you cant charge a sitting president with a crime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EvenSpoonier 10/07/19 10:42:27 AM #8:	pinky0926 posted... Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like - you can't convict a sitting president of a crime True as far as it goes, but this is part of what the impeachment process is for: to make him stop being a sitting President, so that you can move on ahead with the trial process. - a republican majority will never allow an impeachment That is looking less and less certain by the day. - even if an impeachment happens you'll end up with mike pence Unless he is impeached too. Even if he is not, I'm not sure he isn't preferable. --- "Playing a game for its graphics is like watching pornography for the story." - Kadiroth <cite>EvenSpoonier posted [p:928451776] in So with th... [t:78069405]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like - you can't convict a sitting president of a crime</quote> True as far as it goes, but this is part of what the impeachment process is for: to make him stop being a sitting President, so that you can move on ahead with the trial process. <quote>- a republican majority will never allow an impeachment</quote> That is looking less and less certain by the day. <quote>- even if an impeachment happens you'll end up with mike pence</quote> Unless he is impeached too. Even if he is not, I'm not sure he isn't preferable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/07/19 10:43:54 AM #9:	Even if Trump got removed and replaced by Pence, how much can he do in the time he would have? He doesn't have the House, and he's not as impulsive or stupid as Trump. Trump should be held accountable anyway. Duncanwii posted... hockeybub89 posted... We should just abolish impeachment. If you break laws, you just go to court and get thrown in jail if sentenced to that. No more special treatment. If you abolish impeachment what you really do os take away your one option to remove a criminal president, because its already been established you cant charge a sitting president with a crime. I am literally saying we should directly charge sitting Presidents with crimes --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:928451823] in So with th... [t:78069405]...</cite> <quote>Even if Trump got removed and replaced by Pence, how much can he do in the time he would have? He doesn't have the House, and he's not as impulsive or stupid as Trump. Trump should be held accountable anyway. Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>We should just abolish impeachment. If you break laws, you just go to court and get thrown in jail if sentenced to that. No more special treatment.</quote> If you abolish impeachment what you really do os take away your one option to remove a criminal president, because its already been established you cant charge a sitting president with a crime.</quote> I am literally saying we should directly charge sitting Presidents with crimes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sackgurl 10/07/19 10:46:18 AM #10:	pinky0926 posted... - a republican majority will never allow an impeachment i thought this too but with the way he's attacking romney i am starting to wonder i think it's a sort of double bind: what he did was fundamentally wrong, and easy to understand, the public knows it and does understand. democrats are just "following the law", so the GOP is left between a rock and a hard place. they can either stand by party lines and refuse to enforce the law--thereby alienating all independents who understand that this is a crime, or stand by the law and alienate the trump cultists who don't care about our republic and only care about their white power messiah. either way that means setting themselves up for a massive loss in the election, which is the point. impeaching over an easily understood issue that the public will recognize as a matter of law and order means that politics can be played effectively by democrats while still playing by the rules...for once. --- LittleBigPlanet is like merging dress-up with a real game. <cite>Sackgurl posted [p:928451889] in So with th... [t:78069405]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>- a republican majority will never allow an impeachment </quote> i thought this too but with the way he's attacking romney i am starting to wonder i think it's a sort of double bind: what he did was fundamentally wrong, and easy to understand, the public knows it and does understand. democrats are just "following the law", so the GOP is left between a rock and a hard place. they can either stand by party lines and refuse to enforce the law--thereby alienating all independents who understand that this is a crime, or stand by the law and alienate the trump cultists who don't care about our republic and only care about their white power messiah. either way that means setting themselves up for a massive loss in the election, which is the point. impeaching over an easily understood issue that the public will recognize as a matter of law and order means that politics can be played effectively by democrats while still playing by the rules...for once.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 10/07/19 10:54:04 AM #11:	Duncanwii posted... because its already been established you cant charge a sitting president with a crime. The establishment of this is less firm than many have been led to believe; it's just something Nixon's lawyers made up in the 70s. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:928452148] in So with th... [t:78069405]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>because its already been established you cant charge a sitting president with a crime.</quote> The establishment of this is less firm than many have been led to believe; it's just something Nixon's lawyers made up in the 70s.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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