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LadyVyxx
10/05/19 3:21:17 PM
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Signs.

https://www.stylist.co.uk/life/nasa-horoscope-star-sign-zodiac-ophiuchus-personality-astrology-astronomy/248217

She was always a Aries but now shes Pisces.
Its astrology so I mean who cares but apparently it's enough to be sitting in my sisters kitchen hyperventilating over.
For reference my family is Korean and while my parents believe deeply in religion (not me however ) as well as ghosts and spirits... astrology has never been a thing. At all.

I guess I'm a Libra and not a Scorpio...
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DevsBro
10/05/19 3:23:59 PM
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They added a Zodiac sign? Weird.
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Machete
10/05/19 3:29:58 PM
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huh, so that means I'm a Sagittarius, not a Capricorn. I'll have to see if that makes sense. I do really like the show (and character) Archer...
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ChrisTaka
10/05/19 3:30:13 PM
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Ah fuck. Now I'm no longer compatible with my best buds

Time to find new friends
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CapnMuffin
10/05/19 3:30:54 PM
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I tell people about axis shift all the time. I dont think they understand but probably because they dont understand how the Zodiac was created in the first place.
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10/05/19 3:32:03 PM
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HylianFox
10/05/19 3:34:21 PM
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Astrology divides the Zodiac into 12 equal signs, although in reality the sun travels through 13 signs and they're all different sizes

Not that it matters any
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Quicksilver
10/05/19 3:34:21 PM
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I don't understand how this works it looks like it is possible for some one to be born under two signs hows that work so if you were born February 16 you would be both a Capricorn and Aquarius.

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xsouljah
10/05/19 3:36:38 PM
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Nothing changes for me
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Blue_Dream87
10/05/19 3:38:06 PM
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Quicksilver posted...
I don't understand how this works it looks like it is possible for some one to be born under two signs hows that work so if you were born February 16 you would be both a Capricorn and Aquarius.


I was an Aries now Pisces, and I dated a girl who said I seemed like a cusp. Reasonable, humans aren't divided into just 12 personalities/temperaments

Still don't believe in it at all but it replaces religion for some

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HylianFox
10/05/19 3:38:40 PM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
humans aren't divided into just 12 personalities/temperaments


what about the Meyers-Briggs test
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HylianFox
10/05/19 3:41:27 PM
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also, this "news" is like a decade old at least
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Questionmarktarius
10/05/19 3:41:33 PM
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FFT told you this would happen.

ePyVU3N
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HylianFox
10/05/19 3:43:55 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
FFT told you this would happen.

ePyVU3N


Serpentarius sounds cooler than Ophiuchus (oh-fyoo-shuss) at any rate
:/
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DeadBankerDream
10/05/19 3:44:48 PM
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Serpentarius sounds too try-hard.
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HylianFox
10/05/19 3:45:35 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Serpentarius sounds too try-hard.


take it up with the ancient Romans

also consider that two of the other signs use the "-arius" naming convention: Sagittarius (The Archer) and Aquarius (The Water Bearer)
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DeadBankerDream
10/05/19 3:47:03 PM
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They weren't the ones who claimed it sounded cooler than Ophiuchus 2 minutes ago so why would I do that? Seems weird.
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Awakened_Link
10/05/19 3:47:12 PM
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I'm a Scorpio and I always thought Libras were total narks.

Now I'm a Libra. :/
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DeadBankerDream
10/05/19 3:47:36 PM
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HylianFox posted...
also consider that two of the other signs use the "-arius" naming convention: Sagittarius (The Archer) and Aquarius (The Water Bearer)

Yeah, but those don't sound try-hard like serpentarius does.
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Questionmarktarius
10/05/19 3:48:50 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Serpentarius sounds too try-hard.

Yeah. What kind of idiot just takes a word and glues "-tarius" to the end?
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Foppe
10/05/19 3:50:04 PM
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16-BITTER posted...
Apparently the 13th one was introduced in the 70s but isn't considered legit by astrology people.

I mean, it's all bs regardless, but that might make her feel better

The Babylonian had 13 ones, but their calendar had 12 months so they decided to use one per month instead of when they were in view.
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DeadBankerDream
10/05/19 3:50:07 PM
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Questionmark is two words.

Or so I thought.
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Tyranthraxus
10/05/19 3:54:36 PM
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This is incorrect. There is no 13th "sign" nor do signs "change"

HylianFox posted...
Astrology divides the Zodiac into 12 equal signs, although in reality the sun travels through 13 signs and they're all different sizes

Not that it matters any


This is the real answer but to further elaborate.

Ancient astrologers divided the path the sun (appears to) travels in a circle consisting of 12 arcs of 30 degrees each, or 360 degrees total. There's no room for a 13th sign. The astrologers were already aware of this when they made it up because it was more important to get the numbers to look cute than to be an actual measurement.

Some houses are less than 30 degrees if measured and some are more but it was hamfisted all into 30 degree arcs because the whole fucking thing is made up anyway so it doesn't fucking matter.

Additionally, figuring out your sun sign isn't as simple as going from date to date. The time (including year) and place of your birth all get plugged into a gigantic ridiculous fucking equation that doesn't make any God damn sense, but people who don't understand it and peddle 25 cent horoscopes to idiots at the gas station get the dates wrong because it doesn't really matter and they're trying to grift you for money.

So tell your niece to calm down.

Go here and get your "accurate" sign

https://alabe.com/freechart/default.asp

The sign that you're most familiar with in pop culture is the "sun sign" as even though astrology considers the rising sign the most important one, it's harder to figure out which means it's harder to grift people for their money over it. Most people only ever know their sun sign.

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Hanky_Bannister
10/05/19 3:58:07 PM
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Im now a taurus
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HylianFox
10/05/19 4:01:20 PM
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Traditionally I'm a Leo but otherwise I'm good ol' death causing Cancer

I'm also a Fire Tiger. Is it any wonder that I'm a cat person?
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Zodd3224
10/05/19 4:02:06 PM
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I was always a scorpio. I wonder if I still am.
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Aressar
10/05/19 4:07:33 PM
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How nice. However, since this does not matter at all in any way, I'm just going to keep on saying I am an Aquarius if anyone asks, even though this new schedule says otherwise.
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TheVipaGTS
10/05/19 4:09:06 PM
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woah i'm an aries now....
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konokonohamaru
10/05/19 4:09:32 PM
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I mean, the fact that they can just introduce a new one just shows it's all fake, which for some if they were into that stuff might be worth freaking out over
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Questionmarktarius
10/05/19 4:10:25 PM
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konokonohamaru posted...
I mean, the fact that they can just introduce a new one just shows it's all fake, which for some if they were into that stuff might be worth freaking out over

It's just new-age Calvanism, which is also bullshit.
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HylianFox
10/05/19 4:11:00 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
It's just new-age Calvanism, which is also bullshit.


but God wanted me to be a basement dweller
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LadyVyxx
10/05/19 8:05:50 PM
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Come on someones gotta have a scorpion tattoo or an aquarius tramp stamp
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Zodd3224
10/05/19 8:07:54 PM
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If I had a tattoo a scorpion would have been on my list.
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RieTakahash
10/05/19 8:09:46 PM
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Made up news about a made up thing
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Zikten
10/05/19 8:14:40 PM
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LadyVyxx posted...
She was always a Aries but now shes Pisces.

no she's not. she is still an aries. this is old news. this happened like 10 years ago didn't it? anyway it never meant anything. I don't care about some new sign.
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UnholyMudcrab
10/05/19 8:16:39 PM
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I remember reading this in headlines like ten years ago. Why are they trotting this out again?
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Deathjester
10/05/19 8:17:09 PM
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The Sidereal Zodiac, which is what that article is talking about, occasionally changes. The Tropical Zodiac always stays the same.
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LadyVyxx
10/05/19 8:21:45 PM
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Zikten posted...
LadyVyxx posted...
She was always a Aries but now shes Pisces.

no she's not. she is still an aries. this is old news. this happened like 10 years ago didn't it? anyway it never meant anything. I don't care about some new sign.


I mean I'm not here to argue or argue with her shes 11. She found this out while looking up something on her ipad. I'm sure she never bothered to check the date of the article. I dont care enough to argue with her I just googled it and at least found it interesting since regardless of belief in astrology everyone seems to at least know their sign.

I just found it funny she cared this much. This is like finding out your favorite shade of blue isnt called aquamarine it's called navy then being so upset you're hyperventilating and have tears rolling down your face
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The-Apostle
10/05/19 8:22:53 PM
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Wait... I'm not a Libra anymore? WTF?!

My birthday is this Tuesday. >_>
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LadyVyxx
10/05/19 8:23:46 PM
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The-Apostle posted...
Wait... I'm not a Libra anymore? WTF?!

My birthday is this Tuesday. >_>


Hey! Cool you're a Virgo... is that good?
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Febrel
10/05/19 8:27:40 PM
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Lol mine just barely changed.

16-BITTER posted...
Apparently the 13th one was introduced in the 70s but isn't considered legit by astrology people.

I mean, it's all bs regardless, but that might make her feel better

But like while it's fraud science to begin with, I'd at least buy NASA's story over some crystal ball hippie's. >_>
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The-Apostle
10/05/19 8:29:04 PM
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LadyVyxx posted...
The-Apostle posted...
Wait... I'm not a Libra anymore? WTF?!

My birthday is this Tuesday. >_>


Hey! Cool you're a Virgo... is that good?

No idea but I always liked being a Libra, though I don't take much stalk in it.

Edit: Looks like I now share my brother's sign. >_>
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amzpeng
10/05/19 8:32:40 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
The sign that you're most familiar with in pop culture is the "sun sign" as even though astrology considers the rising sign the most important one, it's harder to figure out which means it's harder to grift people for their money over it. Most people only ever know their sun sign.

My sun sign is more accurate than my Rising sign though.

Rising Sign is in 26 Degrees Virgo
You tend to be very shy and not very self-assertive. You are supercritical about how you appear to others. Even though you may think you are uninteresting and dull, you are actually quite soft- spoken, orderly, neat and very likable. You are a perfectionist with high standards, and at times you can be quite tactless in pointing out the faults of others. Very practical, efficient and purposeful, your appearance and bearing reflect your need to appear graceful, sensible and reserved. You have a crisp, no-nonsense approach to dealing with others. Never lazy or self-indulgent, you tend to be dedicated to the work ethic.

Sun is in 11 Degrees Cancer.
Very emotional and sensitive, you have an intuitive understanding of the "vibes" around you. You tend to be quite generous, giving, loving and caring, but only when your own needs for emotional support, love and security have been met. If they are not met, you tend to withdraw into yourself and become very insecure and selfish. Your home and family (especially your mother or the person who played that role for you early on) represent security for you and thus assume a larger-than-life importance. Very sentimental, you have vivid and long- enduring memories of the past. No matter how well adjusted you are, you will always need a secret quiet place of your own in order to feel at peace. Feeding others can give you great pleasure you would enjoy being part of a large family.

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Tyranthraxus
10/05/19 8:35:39 PM
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amzpeng posted...
My sun sign is more accurate than my Rising sign though.


Astrologers mostly justify it by saying "well people are complex and lots of different facets of personality so that's why these things seem contradictory or wrong sometimes and that's why there's all these different signs you have to pay attention to."

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coh
10/05/19 8:41:25 PM
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only women care about this shit
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LadyVyxx
10/05/19 8:43:42 PM
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Not true ^^
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Deku_Link
10/05/19 8:48:50 PM
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Oh good, I'm still a Leo.
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Blue_Dream87
10/05/19 9:09:38 PM
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HylianFox posted...
what about the Meyers-Briggs test


It's kinda sorta bullshit and the Big 5 has more cred/use

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