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Garioshi
10/05/19 10:24:28 AM
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You'd think someone would have given him something at some point.

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BignutzisBack
10/05/19 10:25:07 AM
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10/05/19 10:27:01 AM
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Kitt
10/05/19 10:28:59 AM
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Because with all the ideas he can come up with, he can't tell a coherent story with them. Let alone something in the amount of time usually given to feature films.

Just look at the clusterfuck that is MGS's entire narrative.

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apolloooo
10/05/19 10:31:07 AM
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Because the audience will actually notice this man barely have any talents and will appropriately shit on him for making bad shitn
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Maze_
10/05/19 10:31:52 AM
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apolloooo posted...
Because the audience will actually notice this man barely have any talents and will appropriately shit on him for making bad shitn

This to be honest

he has no idea how to edit
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TwoDoorPunkCab
10/05/19 10:32:22 AM
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i doubt he could make a movie shorter than 3 hours long
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thronedfire2
10/05/19 10:33:15 AM
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because you can charge $60 for a video game and only like $12 for a movie ticket
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BLAKUboy
10/05/19 10:40:20 AM
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Because he's a hack and only the video game industry is unable to recognize that.
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Maze_
10/05/19 1:54:54 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Because he's a hack and only the video game industry is unable to recognize that.

i don't agree

MG1 and 2

and MGS1/2/3/5/Peace Walker are all great video games
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AsucaHayashi
10/05/19 1:59:48 PM
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Maze_ posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
Because he's a hack and only the video game industry is unable to recognize that.

i don't agree

MG1 and 2

and MGS1/2/3/5/Peace Walker are all great video games


it's like you were trying to prove his point xd
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DarthAragorn
10/05/19 2:04:39 PM
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because he's too shitty for movies
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Garioshi
10/05/19 2:11:18 PM
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wtf is with this hate boner for kojima

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AvantgardeAClue
10/05/19 2:13:46 PM
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Maze_ posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
Because he's a hack and only the video game industry is unable to recognize that.

i don't agree

MG1 and 2

and MGS1/2/3/Peace Walker are all great video games


He also had co-designers and especially co-writers for most of those games

When hes allowed to write whatever he wants we get MGS5 dialogue
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ultimate reaver
10/05/19 2:14:09 PM
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He did, its called MGS4

Garioshi posted...
wtf is with this hate boner for kojima


its a meme, ignore anyone who uses the word hack in kojima threads

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uwnim
10/05/19 2:28:54 PM
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Because his movies would be way too long.
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Freddie_Mercury
10/05/19 2:30:48 PM
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he'll probably try now that he's friends with Refn and Mads
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Mistere Man
10/05/19 2:34:05 PM
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Look up the story behind the making of Final Fantasy the spirits within.

To lazy?

Square went/almost went bankrupt on how much they spent making it. Imagine how much he would spend on his vision? No company would want to fund that.
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Jiek_Fafn
10/05/19 2:34:06 PM
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Maze_ posted...
apolloooo posted...
Because the audience will actually notice this man barely have any talents and will appropriately shit on him for making bad shitn

This to be honest

he has no idea how to edit

This
He has super repetitive dialogue that needlessly pads the shit out of so many scenes. As awesome as some of the shit was in mgs4 any scene with exposition just drags and drags.
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TheMikh
10/05/19 2:35:09 PM
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i want to see kojima and del toro produce a horror movie
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DevsBro
10/05/19 2:37:59 PM
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The idea that Kojima failed in the film indistry is a common misconception. He did pursue a career in film whem he was young, but actually swapped to video games before even finishing his degree.
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Kaiganeer
10/05/19 3:06:21 PM
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he has, metal gear solid 1/2/3/4
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AceMos
10/07/19 3:05:52 PM
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the only time he ever put together a good plot was MGS3 and even then it had alot of nonsense in it
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DevsBro
10/07/19 3:19:53 PM
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AceMos posted...
the only time he ever put together a good plot was MG3 and even then it had alot of nonsense in it

I wouldn't say only, but yeah, Metal Gear Solid was definitely the best.
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Smashingpmkns
10/07/19 3:21:48 PM
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Because making a video game is completely different than making a movie
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AceMos
10/07/19 3:24:25 PM
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DevsBro posted...
AceMos posted...
the only time he ever put together a good plot was MG3 and even then it had alot of nonsense in it

I wouldn't say only, but yeah, Metal Gear Solid was definitely the best.

i ment to type MGS3 i missed the S before (edited it now)

MGS1 was good to but i would not call it "movie quality" (i personally think many games have better stories than most movies hence the quotes) only MGS3 IMO tells a story that would entertain movie goers or the like
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DevsBro
10/07/19 3:37:10 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Because making a video game is completely different than making a movie

This is the main reason Kojima games get flack for their writing, I think.

You have to write a game story differently from a movie story, and it seems like a lot of people don't understand that.

Take MGS1 for example. The story is a pattern of failure and redemption, where Snake screws something up and the player gets the chance to redeem him. In a movie, we would find this pattern infuriating but in a game, it strokes our egos.

Snake delivers Fox-Die to Octopus and Baker, the player gets to rescue Meryl (maybe) and Otacon.
Snake lets Cyborg Ninja escape, the player gets to beat him up.
Snake fails to finish off Raven, the player succeeds in finishing off Raven.
Snake activates Rex's warhead, the player stops Rex before it can launch.


Etc
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Rika_Furude
10/07/19 3:38:16 PM
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Metal Gear Solid 4 has at least 1 movie length cutscene
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StucklnMyPants
10/07/19 3:41:07 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
He also had co-designers and especially co-writers for most of those games

When hes allowed to write whatever he wants we get MGS5 dialogue

My favorite thing about 5 is how he turned a psychopath into a walking encyclopedia.
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DevsBro
10/07/19 3:42:09 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Metal Gear Solid 4 has at least 1 movie length cutscene


It would be a short movie. There was a review that came out around release which alleged that it had multiple cutscenes approaching 90 minutes in length, but this actually isn't true. The longest run of cutscenes in the game is the ending, which runs right around 1 hour in length, including the end credits.

The only way you can find a 90 minute cutscene is if you're obtuse enough to ignore portions of gameplay on grounds of brevity, and even then it's a stretch considering the final boss fight takes several minutes.

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DarthAragorn
10/07/19 3:51:29 PM
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StucklnMyPants posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
He also had co-designers and especially co-writers for most of those games

When hes allowed to write whatever he wants we get MGS5 dialogue

My favorite thing about 5 is how he turned a psychopath into a walking encyclopedia.

But that was his real personality!
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DevsBro
10/07/19 3:54:39 PM
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StucklnMyPants posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
He also had co-designers and especially co-writers for most of those games

When hes allowed to write whatever he wants we get MGS5 dialogue

My favorite thing about 5 is how he turned a psychopath into a walking encyclopedia.

To me, this was more of a "yep, I'm a bad guy now" moment.

Like, when you wake up and Ocelot's there and wants to help you out instead of fight you, it was like "oh, so this is how it's gonna be, huh?"

Hold up there cowboy lemme hit up the mall and get some black clothes for dancing in the street.
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HerpToTheDerp
10/07/19 3:56:38 PM
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You give the man 30 hours or however the hell long his games are, and they're still incohesive heaps of garbage. You really think he'd be able to manage fitting something actually good into a story that spans only 2 hours?
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Smashingpmkns
10/07/19 4:01:29 PM
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HerpToTheDerp posted...
You give the man 30 hours or however the hell long his games are, and they're still incohesive heaps of garbage. You really think he'd be able to manage fitting something actually good into a story that spans only 2 hours?


They're only "incohesive" if you're not paying attention
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BipBapBam
10/07/19 4:02:11 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Because he's a hack

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DarthAragorn
10/07/19 4:13:46 PM
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DevsBro posted...
StucklnMyPants posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
He also had co-designers and especially co-writers for most of those games

When hes allowed to write whatever he wants we get MGS5 dialogue

My favorite thing about 5 is how he turned a psychopath into a walking encyclopedia.

To me, this was more of a "yep, I'm a bad guy now" moment.

Like, when you wake up and Ocelot's there and wants to help you out instead of fight you, it was like "oh, so this is how it's gonna be, huh?"

Hold up there cowboy lemme hit up the mall and get some black clothes for dancing in the street.

That would have been cool if the game had made you a bad guy at all whatsoever
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DevsBro
10/07/19 5:28:40 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
DevsBro posted...
StucklnMyPants posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
He also had co-designers and especially co-writers for most of those games

When hes allowed to write whatever he wants we get MGS5 dialogue

My favorite thing about 5 is how he turned a psychopath into a walking encyclopedia.

To me, this was more of a "yep, I'm a bad guy now" moment.

Like, when you wake up and Ocelot's there and wants to help you out instead of fight you, it was like "oh, so this is how it's gonna be, huh?"

Hold up there cowboy lemme hit up the mall and get some black clothes for dancing in the street.

That would have been cool if the game had made you a bad guy at all whatsoever

I actually kinda liked that you did all of the MG1 villain stuff but it was in a "lesser of two evils" kind of way.
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