Current Events > " I will be impeached, Democrats have the votes'' - DonaldTrump.

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UnfairRepresent
10/04/19 2:45:44 PM
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mystic belmont posted...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry-white-house-press-conference-pelosi-a9143471.html

Donald Trump has for the time admitted that Democrats in the House of Representatives have enough votes to easily impeach him.

Speaking to reporters outside the White House in an interaction for which it appeared the president had prepared several crucial talking points in advance, he admitted Democrats had enough votes to push ahead and vote to formally censure him.

Yet, he said he believed he would be protected by Republicans in the Senate, which would have to vote with a two-thirds majority if the president were to be removed from office.

So the Democrats. Unfortunately they have the votes, Mr Trump said, referring to the House, which only requires to a simple majority to vote to impeach the head of state.

Earlier, it was reported Mr Trump planned to write to House speaker Nancy Pelosi to demand a full procedural vote by the lower chamber before handing over documents Democrats have requested.


Republicans won't impeach him
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ChrisTaka
10/04/19 2:51:07 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Republicans won't impeach him


Well .. yeah, if they did they wouldn't be Republicans lol
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Questionmarktarius
10/04/19 2:52:39 PM
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I don't see this playing out much differently than Clinton's impeachment.
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tremain07
10/04/19 2:56:16 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
I don't see this playing out much differently than Clinton's impeachment.

This unless Trump is costing them votes they aren't gonna toss him away, they're fucking scared of his supporters turning on them since Trump has effectively hijacked their entire base
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UltraDeku
10/04/19 2:57:45 PM
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I don't get it. What's the point of impeaching Trump, isn't his term almost over?
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Questionmarktarius
10/04/19 2:57:54 PM
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tremain07 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
I don't see this playing out much differently than Clinton's impeachment.

This unless Trump is costing them votes they aren't gonna toss him away, they're fucking scared of his supporters turning on them since Trump has effectively hijacked their entire base

The only wildcard is going to be exactly how large an "Ayatollah Pence" cult is in the senate.
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Guide
10/04/19 3:00:06 PM
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UltraDeku posted...
I don't get it. What's the point of impeaching Trump, isn't his term almost over?


He'd probably finish his term even if he was impeached. The point is the moral blow it would deal to repubs.
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spudger
10/04/19 3:01:48 PM
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tremain07 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
I don't see this playing out much differently than Clinton's impeachment.

This unless Trump is costing them votes they aren't gonna toss him away, they're fucking scared of his supporters turning on them since Trump has effectively hijacked their entire base

100%

its crazy how he is now the republican party. the party of gimmicks.
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Questionmarktarius
10/04/19 3:04:06 PM
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spudger posted...
the party of gimmicks.

Since 1854!
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Phantom_Nook
10/04/19 3:09:45 PM
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UltraDeku posted...
I don't get it. What's the point of impeaching Trump, isn't his term almost over?

Because he committed crimes.
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Tired-Insomniac
10/04/19 3:22:45 PM
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UltraDeku posted...
I don't get it. What's the point of impeaching Trump, isn't his term almost over?


It sends a message that abusing your power as president is a no no.
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legendarylemur
10/04/19 3:27:11 PM
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Well there's also the fact that the Dems have a pretty shitty front runner and Trump might actually be elected again. I mean, it's happened before with Bush. Impeachment will definitely nip that in the bud

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Bishop9800
10/04/19 3:31:30 PM
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I have a feeling that Trump will resign before he will be impeached. He will make a deal with the Dems saying that he will give up the presidency and won't run in 2020, if they don't press charges against him and his family.
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Questionmarktarius
10/04/19 3:32:10 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...
He will make a deal with the Dems saying that he will give up the presidency and won't run in 2020, if they don't press charges against him and his family.

That's not really something a political party can actually do.
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K181
10/04/19 3:34:19 PM
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UltraDeku posted...
I don't get it. What's the point of impeaching Trump, isn't his term almost over?


Because continuing to do nothing to reprimand him merely results in the message essentially being that there are no consequences for his actions and he can keep pushing his lunacy further and further. At least impeachment would be an unquestionable blemish on his historical record even if conviction is impossible. And hopefully if the country returns to sanity that the precedent of a POTUS doing whatever he wants won't have been established.
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Trigg3rH4ppy
10/04/19 3:34:59 PM
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UltraDeku posted...
I don't get it. What's the point of impeaching Trump, isn't his term almost over?

Justice
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UltraDeku
10/04/19 3:35:27 PM
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Guide posted...
UltraDeku posted...
I don't get it. What's the point of impeaching Trump, isn't his term almost over?


He'd probably finish his term even if he was impeached. The point is the moral blow it would deal to repubs.

Tired-Insomniac posted...
UltraDeku posted...
I don't get it. What's the point of impeaching Trump, isn't his term almost over?


It sends a message that abusing your power as president is a no no.

I guess. But what would happen if his term ends before the impeachment? Will he still get charged?
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Shuto-uke
10/04/19 3:38:58 PM
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UltraDeku posted...
I don't get it. What's the point of impeaching Trump, isn't his term almost over?


@UltraDeku

To show that doing the stuff he did is wrong, in other words, not normalize it.

Say the next president does it again. He could go like "what?! 45 did it!". But not if 45 got impeached for it.
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UnfairRepresent
10/04/19 3:43:15 PM
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UltraDeku posted...
I don't get it. What's the point of impeaching Trump, isn't his term almost over?

Because it's illegal?

If a CEO committed murder 3 weeks before retirement should he not be arrested since he's about to finish his job?
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Questionmarktarius
10/04/19 3:48:14 PM
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Shuto-uke posted...
Say the next president does it again. He could go like "what?! 45 did it!". But not if 45 got impeached for it.

I suppose there hasn't been another president getting BJs from chubby interns since that one time...
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K181
10/04/19 4:31:48 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Shuto-uke posted...
Say the next president does it again. He could go like "what?! 45 did it!". But not if 45 got impeached for it.

I suppose there hasn't been another president getting BJs from chubby interns since that one time...


He was impeached for perjury.
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Makeveli_lives
10/04/19 4:33:25 PM
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Tired-Insomniac posted...
UltraDeku posted...
I don't get it. What's the point of impeaching Trump, isn't his term almost over?


It sends a message that abusing your power as president is a no no.

Also this will kill his chances at a second term.

At least hopefully.
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Makeveli_lives
10/04/19 4:34:39 PM
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K181 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Shuto-uke posted...
Say the next president does it again. He could go like "what?! 45 did it!". But not if 45 got impeached for it.

I suppose there hasn't been another president getting BJs from chubby interns since that one time...


He was impeached for perjury.

Regarding getting head.

Alleged bribery and /or extortion isn't the same thing as infidelity. It's false equivalence
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K181
10/04/19 4:36:54 PM
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Makeveli_lives posted...
K181 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Shuto-uke posted...
Say the next president does it again. He could go like "what?! 45 did it!". But not if 45 got impeached for it.

I suppose there hasn't been another president getting BJs from chubby interns since that one time...


He was impeached for perjury.

Regarding getting head.

Alleged bribery and /or extortion isn't the same thing as infidelity. It's false equivalence


You're right, they aren't the same, but that's the false equivalency. Clinton's perjury and Trump's.... fucking everything are comparable except in volume.
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LadyVyxx
10/04/19 4:38:39 PM
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I dont think the Democrats should be going after this impeachment. I'm canadian and from an outsider perspective this whole thing will drag on well into the midway point of next year. Democrats need to be coming up with a gameplan for the election first instead of throwing so much energy at this. It could lose steam then you're a few months away from the election and if you couldn't Impeach him in the end that will just make you look worse?

Then theres my country where we have a federal election in less than 3 weeks and the current prime Minister is getting leaks almost daily and it's an embarrassment
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Antifar
10/04/19 4:39:09 PM
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UltraDeku posted...
I don't get it. What's the point of impeaching Trump, isn't his term almost over?

More than 25 percent of it remains.
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COVxy
10/04/19 4:42:34 PM
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LadyVyxx posted...
I dont think the Democrats should be going after this impeachment. I'm canadian and from an outsider perspective this whole thing will drag on well into the midway point of next year. Democrats need to be coming up with a gameplan for the election first instead of throwing so much energy at this. It could lose steam then you're a few months away from the election and if you couldn't Impeach him in the end that will just make you look worse?

Then theres my country where we have a federal election in less than 3 weeks and the current prime Minister is getting leaks almost daily and it's an embarrassment


Not going for impeachment because the politics could be unfavorable is corruption. Even if you are "the good guys".

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LadyVyxx
10/04/19 4:45:23 PM
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COVxy posted...
LadyVyxx posted...
I dont think the Democrats should be going after this impeachment. I'm canadian and from an outsider perspective this whole thing will drag on well into the midway point of next year. Democrats need to be coming up with a gameplan for the election first instead of throwing so much energy at this. It could lose steam then you're a few months away from the election and if you couldn't Impeach him in the end that will just make you look worse?

Then theres my country where we have a federal election in less than 3 weeks and the current prime Minister is getting leaks almost daily and it's an embarrassment


Not going for impeachment because the politics could be unfavorable is corruption. Even if you are "the good guys".


I suppose that's true.

Okay another question. Again please remember I'm not American and I have no one in this race.

If going against trump and fighting for impeachment is the correct thing to do and bring justice, shouldn't the current Republican government get every right to dig into the crimes allegedly committed by Biden and his son?
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COVxy
10/04/19 4:48:24 PM
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LadyVyxx posted...
If going against trump and fighting for impeachment is the correct thing to do and bring justice, shouldn't the current Republican government get every right to dig into the crimes allegedly committed by Biden and his son?


If there were evidence of any wrongdoing and the investigations/requests followed proper procedures, sure.

Neither of those things are true, however.

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K181
10/04/19 4:48:28 PM
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LadyVyxx posted...
COVxy posted...
LadyVyxx posted...
I dont think the Democrats should be going after this impeachment. I'm canadian and from an outsider perspective this whole thing will drag on well into the midway point of next year. Democrats need to be coming up with a gameplan for the election first instead of throwing so much energy at this. It could lose steam then you're a few months away from the election and if you couldn't Impeach him in the end that will just make you look worse?

Then theres my country where we have a federal election in less than 3 weeks and the current prime Minister is getting leaks almost daily and it's an embarrassment


Not going for impeachment because the politics could be unfavorable is corruption. Even if you are "the good guys".


I suppose that's true.

Okay another question. Again please remember I'm not American and I have no one in this race.

If going against trump and fighting for impeachment is the correct thing to do and bring justice, shouldn't the current Republican government get every right to dig into the crimes allegedly committed by Biden and his son?


If there were crimes, yes. The problem is that literally no one of note has ever associated the Biden's with crimes in the Ukraine, Biden as Veep was above the board with the rest of the community trying to get the prosecutor removed for not going after corruption, and the Trump administration has being doing everything they could do to look shady rather than going through official venues and following proper procedures that don't give the impression of partisan hackery.
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LadyVyxx
10/04/19 4:50:53 PM
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K181 posted...
LadyVyxx posted...
COVxy posted...
LadyVyxx posted...
I dont think the Democrats should be going after this impeachment. I'm canadian and from an outsider perspective this whole thing will drag on well into the midway point of next year. Democrats need to be coming up with a gameplan for the election first instead of throwing so much energy at this. It could lose steam then you're a few months away from the election and if you couldn't Impeach him in the end that will just make you look worse?

Then theres my country where we have a federal election in less than 3 weeks and the current prime Minister is getting leaks almost daily and it's an embarrassment


Not going for impeachment because the politics could be unfavorable is corruption. Even if you are "the good guys".


I suppose that's true.

Okay another question. Again please remember I'm not American and I have no one in this race.

If going against trump and fighting for impeachment is the correct thing to do and bring justice, shouldn't the current Republican government get every right to dig into the crimes allegedly committed by Biden and his son?


If there were crimes, yes. The problem is that literally no one of note has ever associated the Biden's with crimes in the Ukraine, Biden as Veep was above the board with the rest of the community trying to get the prosecutor removed for not going after corruption, and the Trump administration has being doing everything they could do to look shady rather than official venues that don't give the impression of partisan hackery.


Thanks for the response. I only ask as I dont seek out political news outside of Canadian stuff but being Canadian we hear about American politics almost more than our own. Our local stations (Toronto) are mostly pro democratic but we have some that are pro trump so I hear both sides all the time, but I dont actually go far enough to look into them since I have no say in another country anyways.
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BruceWayneJr
10/04/19 4:51:45 PM
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UltraDeku posted...
I don't get it. What's the point of impeaching Trump, isn't his term almost over?


Oblivious defined.

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Guide
10/04/19 4:59:32 PM
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Don't be shitty about it, he's asking, and engaging the answers.
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LightningAce11
10/04/19 5:02:58 PM
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Send him to jail along with his whole corrupt family.
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Abiz_
10/04/19 5:15:19 PM
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UltraDeku posted...
I don't get it. What's the point of impeaching Trump, isn't his term almost over?
He went after the other party. Only time impeachment happens is when a President goes after the other party. It's never for important shit.
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RchHomieQuanChi
10/04/19 6:10:22 PM
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UltraDeku posted...
I don't get it. What's the point of impeaching Trump, isn't his term almost over?


It would prevent him from doing a 2nd term

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SauI_Goodman
10/04/19 6:15:46 PM
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You guys realize he can still run again, right? Winning on the other hand.
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ElatedVenusaur
10/04/19 6:19:57 PM
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The House voting for impeachment is mostly symbolic, in this case. It's basically objective fact that Trump has committed impeachable offenses, but the Ukraine business is so obviously malfeasant even the skittish moderate Dems got off the fence.
The political upside is simple: the Democrats have increased authority and power to go after stuff in their investigations(and some less courageous and/or loyal Trump lackeys will squeal) and get to very publicly stand up to and rebuke an unpopular president(and there's some evidence his popularity is sinking further), whereas the Republicans will just as publicly be seen defending him from consequences.
Also it makes Trump really goddamned angry and he's never going to stop crying about it.

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8-bit_Biceps
10/04/19 6:20:53 PM
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ChrisTaka posted...
Well .. yeah, if they did they wouldn't be Republicans lol


Well, sure they would be, but they're not really republicans as we have known republicans in the past. Obviously they're more balls-to-the-wall republicans, in desperate to stop our government from reaching a sort of tipping point into more democratic socialism and thus collectivism.

I understand that the right wing public decided to vote for Trump and wanted to be represented by him, but there is a point in which he is no longer serving them or the longterm well-being of the country. It's not good to allow someone like this to continue to be president. There has to be a point at which you say, no enough is enough. We must stand up for the country before we stand up for some man. To not do so is to take a perspective on life that says that people can't be fooled, or that presidents can't change in office, or that new information can't be revealed to people to allow them to change their minds about the person they elected.
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Makeveli_lives
10/04/19 6:23:38 PM
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LadyVyxx posted...
K181 posted...
LadyVyxx posted...
COVxy posted...
LadyVyxx posted...
I dont think the Democrats should be going after this impeachment. I'm canadian and from an outsider perspective this whole thing will drag on well into the midway point of next year. Democrats need to be coming up with a gameplan for the election first instead of throwing so much energy at this. It could lose steam then you're a few months away from the election and if you couldn't Impeach him in the end that will just make you look worse?

Then theres my country where we have a federal election in less than 3 weeks and the current prime Minister is getting leaks almost daily and it's an embarrassment


Not going for impeachment because the politics could be unfavorable is corruption. Even if you are "the good guys".


I suppose that's true.

Okay another question. Again please remember I'm not American and I have no one in this race.

If going against trump and fighting for impeachment is the correct thing to do and bring justice, shouldn't the current Republican government get every right to dig into the crimes allegedly committed by Biden and his son?


If there were crimes, yes. The problem is that literally no one of note has ever associated the Biden's with crimes in the Ukraine, Biden as Veep was above the board with the rest of the community trying to get the prosecutor removed for not going after corruption, and the Trump administration has being doing everything they could do to look shady rather than official venues that don't give the impression of partisan hackery.


Thanks for the response. I only ask as I dont seek out political news outside of Canadian stuff but being Canadian we hear about American politics almost more than our own. Our local stations (Toronto) are mostly pro democratic but we have some that are pro trump so I hear both sides all the time, but I dont actually go far enough to look into them since I have no say in another country anyways.

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hockeybub89
10/04/19 6:29:42 PM
#41:


UnfairRepresent posted...
UltraDeku posted...
I don't get it. What's the point of impeaching Trump, isn't his term almost over?

Because it's illegal?

If a CEO committed murder 3 weeks before retirement should he not be arrested since he's about to finish his job?

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Guide
10/04/19 7:49:05 PM
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CloneTheHero posted...
lol not happening. the witch hunt is designed to slander trump to try to dissuade some of his voters next election. dems are petty and treacherous


Ironic, calling anyone but your lord and master treacherous.
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spudger
10/04/19 7:53:26 PM
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CloneTheHero posted...
Guide posted...
CloneTheHero posted...
lol not happening. the witch hunt is designed to slander trump to try to dissuade some of his voters next election. dems are petty and treacherous


Ironic, calling anyone but your lord and master treacherous.

i dont particularly give a fuck about trump i think hes divisive arrogant and a child. but facts are facts, he won the election. hes YOUR president, pretending otherwise is petulant and outright hilarious.

bullshit. you love him. you just quoted yourself defending him.

grow a spine
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spudger
10/04/19 7:58:42 PM
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CloneTheHero posted...

imagine being this ridiculous. so defending someone against fabricated bullshit means i love the person?

yes. it literally does.

you know why?

CUz
its
not
fucking
frabricated

but keep drinking that juice
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Guide
10/04/19 8:00:03 PM
#48:


CloneTheHero posted...
Guide posted...
CloneTheHero posted...
lol not happening. the witch hunt is designed to slander trump to try to dissuade some of his voters next election. dems are petty and treacherous


Ironic, calling anyone but your lord and master treacherous.

i dont particularly give a fuck about trump i think hes divisive arrogant and a child. but facts are facts, he won the election. hes YOUR president, pretending otherwise is petulant and outright hilarious.


Since when did I say he wasn't president? Why do you think impeachment is happening?

You getting hung up on something I didn't even say is basically calling yourself out.
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Antifar
10/04/19 8:00:24 PM
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CloneTheHero posted...
lmao it cant be that im an unbiased man of decency? oh no it cant be that!!

That's correct.
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amzpeng
10/04/19 8:01:39 PM
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I used to think "Trump's not so bad. Those 'Not My President' protests are an over reaction". But then he did some bad things, but not terrible bad and I was like "well it's not that bad." Then he started doing bad stuff to the immigrant children and it was like a lightbulb was switched on, and he's done more and more terrible things as time went on. There is just no end to his evilness.
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