Current Events > what the hell is "cancel culture"

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HylianFox posted...

I'm sick of people coming up with dumb phrases and expecting everyone else to instantly know what it is they're talking about

I agree like all the genders and all the ways we need to adress people. hockeybub89 posted...

Oliver_Oliver posted...

HylianFox posted...

I'm sick of people coming up with dumb phrases and expecting everyone else to instantly know what it is they're talking about

Cancel Culture is just hunting grounds for people to put "Virtual "Hits" on people.
An EXAMPLE of this is what Zoe Quinn did to ALEC HOLOWKA where she accused him of harassment and abuse with NO proof and then a shit load of her minions attacked him online (and some who threatened to do horrible things to him) to the point where he committed suicide out of the pressure he felt from her minions harassing the living shit out of him. Soon after, there was evidence coming out that the guy didn't actually do anything. But the mob (and Zoe) who went after him refuse to apologize and continue to point fingers at him despite him being most likely innocent and now dead from their harassment. That's cancel culture.... they want to "cancel" anyone who they don't like, proof or no proof of accusations, it's guilty and no chance to be proven innocent.

People have been accusing people of things for thousands of years without some goofy nickname. Like you here accusing Zoe Quinn of killing someone

She should be charged but cuck culture loves it you are delusional if you think she did not directly contribute. Really look at your life you will be fucked eventually.

Annihilated posted...

So they don't have jobs anymore because that's literally what you fucking said they were trying to do?

Also I like how all the commies suddenly pretend to care about the "free market" now despite not even knowing what the market actually is. Name one single thing in "cancel culture" that was not canceled due to the whims of some executive or a rabid mob. Take your time, you'll need it.

In short, they cancel because the real or imagined loss of potential money and or loss of public standing, leading to loss of money.

Please differentiate a "rabid mob" from an informed consumers organizing their buying power and producers then responding by adjusting products to their tastes.

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TRC posted...

Just outta curiosity where is the evidence that the guy didn't do anything? I hadn't actually heard of this before and was trying to read about it but couldn't find anything indicating that.

He is probably referring to these:

https://www.thepostmillennial.com/exclusive-zoe-quinns-allegations-are-falling-apart/

https://www.thepostmillennial.com/exclusive-alec-holowkas-private-messages-reveal-zoe-quinns-abuse/

Basically, they found some old messages from the time when Quinn was with Holowka that make her claims about his abuse to be questionable and PMs he had with someone else in 2014 about how awful she was to him. They don't completely disprove them, but it suggests she was emotionally abusive and makes her claims about being physically confined in his room and having to secretly arrange for a friend to help her get out seem suspect.

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@Annihilated posted...

i'm not a commie, but i suppose i should elaborate on my point lest it be misinterpreted

it can be safely assumed that cancel culture is, by virtue of its pervasiveness, a feature of this system for lack of better words - which has perhaps recently kicked into hyperdrive due to the discovery of its utility by leftists (in the kaczynskian sense)

this system is in no shape or form a free market, nor can any amount of political action within the avenues available to participants accomplish as much, as a truly free market would almost certainly destroy the usa as we know it, and the people that rule it and/or leech off of it will go to any length to prevent that

the amount of cronyism through various legal and monetary mechanisms creates a steep barrier to entry, most lacking the resources to navigate these hurdles in order to establish a truly profitable enterprise to support themselves and others

consequently, the safe course of action for most is to work for existing established companies that offer a stable income without the risks of operating a business

it is no surprise, then, that less than a percent of businesses employ half the american workforce, if the boston review is a credible source for that figure. another 14 percent of the workforce work for the government.

where does cancel culture come into play?

the pervasiveness of a small few businesses with respect to employment and services gives them a great deal of power over the population, but they are neither wholly immune to competition, nor are their reputations set in stone

consequently, when a mob stirs up some outrage about an employee or patron pertaining to something deemed sinful by the proverbial cathedral, the corporation may find its reputation at risk within this matrix - competitors may one-up them, or their relationships may be compromised

thus, perceived enemies are "canceled". this canceling is more streamlined in less meritocratic institutions (big media, academics, government), as economic value creation is factored less into the gravity of such decisions. similarly, more monopolistic entities (e.g., large banks) may enjoy so much profitability from cronyism that they've settled into a rigid bureaucratic structure that canceling types can comfortably nest themselves and leverage influence within, resembling the other fields they tend to infest.

again, this is all a feature. conservative politicians can roll back a few regulations and cut taxes a notch when in office, but otherwise don't do more than is required to sway public opinion towards their reelection and keep donors happy. taxes rise, legislation mounts, monetary value plummets, and central overreach increases.

and again, people may complain about this, cancel culture, and attempt to delay the inevitable, absolutely, but the future for this country with its ongoing trajectory is bleak.

what would a free market look like?

a more organic order: association of like-minded individuals, and the exclusion of those who are not - and those creating real value are seldom the same people calling for cancellation. no petty litigation, nor expectations or standards undermined by political whims. less monopolies and more competition, requiring more nimble and often smaller entities. less powerful executives making more rational decisions about business direction and treatment of labor and patrons. long-term decision-making not beholden to money from public institutions, or cronies these institutions serve as kingmakers for, that together push trendy agendas and punish dissidents.

this is not compatible with representative democracy.

i will concede, however, that my original point is a bit flawed when viewed from a rothbardian perspective on the imperative of political participation.
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Was it really that hard to figure out? People dig up tweets an actor or comedian said 12 years ago, and it gets him fired/his show cancelled.
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Someone does or says something, free speech and free market ensues.
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Someone does or says something, free speech and free market ensues.

That's a pretty intellectually dishonest way of putting it.

By that logic a businsess telling gay people to fuck off is free speech and free market.

You're intentionally ignoring nuance
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