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Broseph_Stalin
10/02/19 3:06:21 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Yeah but you used hyperbole therefore reeeeeee Bernie

the amount of effort you have to put in to convince yourself you weren't wrong on anything ever is hilarious
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LampChop
10/02/19 3:07:18 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
LampChop posted...
I didn't know biden and warren also suffered from heart disease! It's not about Bernie's age, at least not for me, But he has heart disease, at nearly 80 years old. That part matters. Your age doesn't matter until an illness strikes you. If this was my father, I wouldn't let him do anything hard, or taxing on his mind, and body, ever.


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lol

Ah the battle cry of someone who can't think of anything to say. Thanks for exposing yourself that you'll be easy to dismantle.
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Intro2Logic
10/02/19 3:11:01 PM
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The available long-run evidence shows that in the past, only a small elite enjoyed living conditions that would not be described as extreme poverty today. But with the onset of industrialization and rising productivity, the share of people living in extreme poverty started to decrease. Accordingly, the share of people in extreme poverty has decreased continuously over the course of the last two centuries. This is surely one of the most remarkable achievements of humankind.

Given your recent understanding of how pressing an issue climate change is, shouldn't you be more hesitant about crediting capitalist industrialization? The past two centuries (but specifically the last few decades, in which the majority of carbon emissions have taken place) have come at the cost of our shared future.
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pls
10/02/19 3:14:59 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
pls posted...
The available long-run evidence shows that in the past, only a small elite enjoyed living conditions that would not be described as extreme poverty today. But with the onset of industrialization and rising productivity, the share of people living in extreme poverty started to decrease. Accordingly, the share of people in extreme poverty has decreased continuously over the course of the last two centuries. This is surely one of the most remarkable achievements of humankind.

Given your recent understanding of how pressing an issue climate change is, shouldn't you be more hesitant about crediting capitalist industrialization? The past two centuries (but specifically the last few decades, in which the majority of carbon emissions have taken place) have come at the cost of our shared future.


Communist nations were industrial too, so the problem isn't whether or not a country is capitalist. The problem is that as an accident of history we came across fossil fuels first.

A green grid and a more sustainable society do not preclude capitalism.
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winged_weltall
10/02/19 3:15:55 PM
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If only someone younger had his political mindset...
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SauI_Goodman
10/02/19 3:18:10 PM
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winged_weltall posted...
If only someone younger had his political mindset...

come on man biden's only a year younger.
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Broseph_Stalin
10/02/19 3:27:50 PM
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winged_weltall posted...
If only someone younger had his political mindset...

Kim Jong-un?
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Doom_Art
10/02/19 3:28:49 PM
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Godnorgosh posted...
Oh yeah, one more thing about Warren. She didn't endorse Sanders in 2016 because the Clinton campaign reached out to her and said they were considering her for VP, and she didn't want to jeopardize that opportunity by endorsing him.
And...?

also source pls


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Shablagoo
10/02/19 3:30:39 PM
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Godnorgosh posted...
Oh yeah, one more thing about Warren. She didn't endorse Sanders in 2016 because the Clinton campaign reached out to her and said they were considering her for VP, and she didn't want to jeopardize that opportunity by endorsing him.

God could she be any lamer
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Doom_Art
10/02/19 3:51:36 PM
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I did read the article and I'm unsure as to the timeline of things here

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lrn2primary bro

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EndOfDiscOne
10/02/19 3:53:33 PM
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I think that's one reason people prefer Bernie. Of all candidates except maybe Yang, he's the least guilty of playing political games.
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Doom_Art
10/02/19 3:57:13 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
I think that's one reason people prefer Bernie. Of all candidates except maybe Yang, he's the least guilty of playing political games.
Which I can absolutely admire and respect

But being President is like 70% playing political games

Especially if you wanna be a transformational president like Sanders or Warren. As we've seen the last 3 years just trying to brute force stuff you want and whipping your supporters up into a frenzy isn't enough

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Intro2Logic
10/02/19 3:59:28 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
As we've seen the last 3 years just trying to brute force stuff you want and whipping your supporters up into a frenzy isn't enough

It's basically worked for Republicans, though. They've gotten what they wanted and more.
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Balrog0
10/02/19 4:41:50 PM
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I think this is really bad news for a campaign that was already sort of stuck below 20% and without any obvious potential early state victories

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The Wheelman1
10/02/19 4:46:13 PM
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I hope he doesn't die before the election.
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Doom_Art
10/02/19 4:46:16 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
It's basically worked for Republicans, though. They've gotten what they wanted and more.
Eeeeeehhhhhh this administration has largely been a failure in terms of advancing conservative politics

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She was involved in the 2016 primary tho through the dealing you mentioned

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anth0ny
10/02/19 5:26:29 PM
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"Sanders' last public appearance was at the Las Vegas shooting memorial on Tuesday night. Earlier this week, he was in New Hampshire where he held seven back-to-back events over the course of two days."

im still voting for him you mouth breathing pissants
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ElatedVenusaur
10/02/19 5:31:30 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
I think this is really bad news for a campaign that was already sort of stuck below 20% and without any obvious potential early state victories

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/nv/nevada_democratic_presidential_caucus-6866.html
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/nh/new_hampshire_democratic_presidential_primary-6276.html
He seems to be in great shape in Nevada and in decent shape in New Hampshire? Bernie also has a history of over-performing his polling* and is strongest with groups who don't normally turn-out in primaries, which is why he's investing so much in ground game.
*Except in Southern states.

We're also still, what? 6** months away from actual voting?

**Actually 4. I am bad at math.
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Omnislasher
10/02/19 5:46:37 PM
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Ethan Weiss, a cardiologist at the University of California, San Francisco, said the stent procedure Sanders underwent typically is not anything I would get too excited about, calling it "mostly a nuisance."

Weiss, who did not diagnose Sanders, added, "Unless Im missing something dramatic, he should be in the hospital one or two days, and he should be fine.


https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/02/sanders-has-heart-stent-surgery-after-chest-discomfort-000164
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MudKip_Master
10/02/19 5:55:24 PM
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Well that may be that....
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Omnislasher
10/02/19 6:06:00 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
I think that's one reason people prefer Bernie. Of all candidates except maybe Yang, he's the least guilty of playing political games.
Which I can absolutely admire and respect

But being President is like 70% playing political games

Especially if you wanna be a transformational president like Sanders or Warren. As we've seen the last 3 years just trying to brute force stuff you want and whipping your supporters up into a frenzy isn't enough

>solicits private meeting with hillary clinton during primary campaiging
>stages massive effort to reassure DNC insiders and party officials that she is a team player with no confrontational agenda
>"transformational" aspirations

Sorry, but you're wrong. Warren clearly does NOT want to be a transformational president. That only describes Bernie Sanders, who, aside from having the better platform and policies to that end, more importantly has the fundamentally correct theory of change, namely to directly challenge concentrated wealth/power and the structures that underpin them with the backing of a mass mobilized movement, which is already largely in place and growing.
Elizabeth Warren is a technocrat. She wants you to elect her and then leave her be to do the tinkering around the edges that she loves. She will accomplish nothing because she has neither the ability nor intent to take on the interests that will fight tooth and nail every step of the way. Expect Obama 2.0 except even sadder.

Or take the one realm of policy that the president actually does wield massive power over: the military, foreign policy. She's basically absent on the issue completely. Clearly not a priority.
Try to find one aspect of Elizabeth Warren that suggests she will represent anything other than status quo foreign policy, ie. aggression and regime change.
Nevermind her closeness with raytheon and approval of the most recent insane military budget.
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ElatedVenusaur
10/02/19 6:25:38 PM
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Anteaterking
10/02/19 6:50:14 PM
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Biden's age has been brought up way more than Bernie's has (though for good reason).
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LampChop
10/02/19 7:31:38 PM
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Omnislasher posted...
Ethan Weiss, a cardiologist at the University of California, San Francisco, said the stent procedure Sanders underwent typically is not anything I would get too excited about, calling it "mostly a nuisance."

Weiss, who did not diagnose Sanders, added, "Unless Im missing something dramatic, he should be in the hospital one or two days, and he should be fine.


https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/02/sanders-has-heart-stent-surgery-after-chest-discomfort-000164


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Omnislasher
10/02/19 8:02:02 PM
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^..... what?
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Balrog0
10/02/19 10:14:27 PM
#189:


ElatedVenusaur posted...
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/nv/nevada_democratic_presidential_caucus-6866.html
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/nh/new_hampshire_democratic_presidential_primary-6276.html
He seems to be in great shape in Nevada and in decent shape in New Hampshire? Bernie also has a history of over-performing his polling* and is strongest with groups who don't normally turn-out in primaries, which is why he's investing so much in ground game.
*Except in Southern states.

We're also still, what? 6** months away from actual voting?

**Actually 4. I am bad at math.


Yeah idk. Depending on how you look at it, he underperformed in Nevada last time (his vote share was higher than the polls showed, but not as much higher as Clinton's). And I thought he was projected to win NH and just ended up winning by more. I think the dynamics are really different in a race with more than two actual candidates, too.

What I was trying to convey is that he's not obviously going to win any of them, not that he obviously couldn't win any, though fwiw


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DarkRoast
10/03/19 11:07:22 AM
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LampChop posted...
Omnislasher posted...
Ethan Weiss, a cardiologist at the University of California, San Francisco, said the stent procedure Sanders underwent typically is not anything I would get too excited about, calling it "mostly a nuisance."

Weiss, who did not diagnose Sanders, added, "Unless Im missing something dramatic, he should be in the hospital one or two days, and he should be fine.


https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/02/sanders-has-heart-stent-surgery-after-chest-discomfort-000164


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That doesn't mean what you think it means.

He's saying Sanders didn't have any definable acute coronary syndrome, just coronary artery disease that resulted in stent placement.
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Agnostic420
10/03/19 12:42:26 PM
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This just in.

Bernie WILL be in the next debate on CNN. In about 2 weeks.
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ElatedVenusaur
10/03/19 7:31:46 PM
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https://twitter.com/AnnieGrayerCNN/status/1179865016767410177
Bernie surrogates will be holding events this weekend: Rep. Ro Khanna in Iowa, San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulin Cruz in New Hampshire, and former Ohio State Sen. Nina Turner in South Carolina.
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ElatedVenusaur
10/04/19 6:09:36 PM
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https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1180239325390397443
Bernie's been discharged. There he is leaving the hospital.
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Wewillrocku
10/04/19 6:09:56 PM
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oh the pain!!!
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Agnostic420
10/04/19 6:57:13 PM
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He had a heart attack.
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LampChop
10/04/19 10:21:14 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
LampChop posted...
Omnislasher posted...
Ethan Weiss, a cardiologist at the University of California, San Francisco, said the stent procedure Sanders underwent typically is not anything I would get too excited about, calling it "mostly a nuisance."

Weiss, who did not diagnose Sanders, added, "Unless Im missing something dramatic, he should be in the hospital one or two days, and he should be fine.


https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/02/sanders-has-heart-stent-surgery-after-chest-discomfort-000164


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That doesn't mean what you think it means.

He's saying Sanders didn't have any definable acute coronary syndrome, just coronary artery disease that resulted in stent placement.

Yeah, no. It has been confirmed to be a heart attack.
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ElatedVenusaur
10/04/19 10:30:00 PM
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LampChop posted...
DarkRoast posted...
LampChop posted...
Omnislasher posted...
Ethan Weiss, a cardiologist at the University of California, San Francisco, said the stent procedure Sanders underwent typically is not anything I would get too excited about, calling it "mostly a nuisance."

Weiss, who did not diagnose Sanders, added, "Unless Im missing something dramatic, he should be in the hospital one or two days, and he should be fine.


https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/02/sanders-has-heart-stent-surgery-after-chest-discomfort-000164


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That doesn't mean what you think it means.

He's saying Sanders didn't have any definable acute coronary syndrome, just coronary artery disease that resulted in stent placement.

Yeah, no. It has been confirmed to be a heart attack.

A very minor heart attack, thankfully. Or, at least, I assume it must be if he's walking out of the hospital two days later and anticipates getting back on the campaign trail soon(probably even before the 10/15 debate). The stents should keep the coronary artery clear.
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LampChop
10/04/19 11:10:29 PM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
LampChop posted...
DarkRoast posted...
LampChop posted...
Omnislasher posted...
Ethan Weiss, a cardiologist at the University of California, San Francisco, said the stent procedure Sanders underwent typically is not anything I would get too excited about, calling it "mostly a nuisance."

Weiss, who did not diagnose Sanders, added, "Unless Im missing something dramatic, he should be in the hospital one or two days, and he should be fine.


https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/02/sanders-has-heart-stent-surgery-after-chest-discomfort-000164


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That doesn't mean what you think it means.

He's saying Sanders didn't have any definable acute coronary syndrome, just coronary artery disease that resulted in stent placement.

Yeah, no. It has been confirmed to be a heart attack.

A very minor heart attack, thankfully. Or, at least, I assume it must be if he's walking out of the hospital two days later and anticipates getting back on the campaign trail soon(probably even before the 10/15 debate). The stents should keep the coronary artery clear.

lol, there's no such thing as a very minor heart attack.
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megamanfreakXD
10/04/19 11:13:51 PM
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He better not have a fall while being in the dual antiplatelet therapy AAAAYYY LMAO
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