Current Events > Prominent studies are showing that Obesity is NOT caused by lack of Willpower .

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Barenziah Boy Toy 09/29/19 8:03:37 PM #51:	Fat acceptance only means that if some people find them attractive, then be positive about it or just let them be. There's no point mocking or announcing to the world that you are disgusted by fat people. Different strokes for different folks. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:928117853] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>Fat acceptance only means that if some people find them attractive, then be positive about it or just let them be. There's no point mocking or announcing to the world that you are disgusted by fat people. Different strokes for different folks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 09/29/19 8:03:43 PM #52:	RebelElite791 posted... AlisLandale posted... Nobody making fun of fat people is doing it because they value health. They do it because its an easy and socially acceptable target that makes them feel superior to somebody else, probably, to distract themselves from their own flaws. Everybody has a vice. For fat people it just happens to be food. Like the other poster said, we shouldnt veer into fat acceptance, but shaming them doesnt do anything. Why not both? Because that would be being shitty just cause you want to be shitty. Just straightfoward bad behavior that can only come from genuinely bad people. --- formerly evening formerly guide https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:928117855] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote>AlisLandale posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody making fun of fat people is doing it because they value health. They do it because its an easy and socially acceptable target that makes them feel superior to somebody else, probably, to distract themselves from their own flaws. Everybody has a vice. For fat people it just happens to be food. Like the other poster said, we shouldnt veer into fat acceptance, but shaming them doesnt do anything.</quote> Why not both?</quote> Because that would be being shitty just cause you want to be shitty. Just straightfoward bad behavior that can only come from genuinely bad people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 09/29/19 8:04:15 PM #53:	Barenziah Boy Toy posted... You had the luxury and access of being able to cook and bake healthy meals at home. Amazing that you'd go as far as trying to take away someone's own success from them to try and prove your point. "It's not that you worked hard and persevered. You're just privileged!" --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:928117874] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>Barenziah Boy Toy posted... </cite> <quote>You had the luxury and access of being able to cook and bake healthy meals at home.</quote> Amazing that you'd go as far as trying to take away someone's own success from them to try and prove your point. "It's not that you worked hard and persevered. You're just privileged!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 09/29/19 8:05:01 PM #54:	Barenziah Boy Toy posted... Fat acceptance only means that if some people find them attractive, then be positive about it. Different strokes for different folks. I would like that to be the case, but I've seen far too many examples of it being pushed as "perfectly fine and healthy". Definitely don't be a dick, no reason to be shitty, but don't straight up lie, either. --- formerly evening formerly guide https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:928117896] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote>Fat acceptance only means that if some people find them attractive, then be positive about it. Different strokes for different folks.</quote> I would like that to be the case, but I've seen far too many examples of it being pushed as "perfectly fine and healthy". Definitely don't be a dick, no reason to be shitty, but don't straight up lie, either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacadamianNut3 09/29/19 8:05:48 PM #55:	Barenziah Boy Toy posted... You had the luxury and access of being able to cook and bake healthy meals at home. So are all of the fatties in this study dirt poor and dont have a kitchen and 15-30 minutes to spare for cooking In that case why aren't all poor people fat --- Roll Tide & Go Irish <cite>MacadamianNut3 posted [p:928117923] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote>You had the luxury and access of being able to cook and bake healthy meals at home.</quote> So are all of the fatties in this study dirt poor and dont have a kitchen and 15-30 minutes to spare for cooking In that case why aren't all poor people fat</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 09/29/19 8:06:01 PM #56:	s0nicfan posted... Amazing that you'd go as far as trying to take away someone's own success from them to try and prove your point. "It's not that you worked hard and persevered. You're just privileged!" Lots of obese people have worked harder than you, and persevere, and yet don't or haven't succeeded. This is because of a variety of environmental factors or personal stressors. It's not your place to judge someone as having less 'willpower' than you simply because they are fatter than you. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:928117930] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Amazing that you'd go as far as trying to take away someone's own success from them to try and prove your point. "It's not that you worked hard and persevered. You're just privileged!"</quote> Lots of obese people have worked harder than you, and persevere, and yet don't or haven't succeeded. This is because of a variety of environmental factors or personal stressors. It's not your place to judge someone as having less 'willpower' than you simply because they are fatter than you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 09/29/19 8:06:04 PM #57:	s0nicfan posted... Barenziah Boy Toy posted... You had the luxury and access of being able to cook and bake healthy meals at home. Amazing that you'd go as far as trying to take away someone's own success from them to try and prove your point. "It's not that you worked hard and persevered. You're just privileged!" It might shock you to know that privilege and success aren't mutually exclusive. --- formerly evening formerly guide https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:928117932] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Barenziah Boy Toy posted... </cite> <quote>You had the luxury and access of being able to cook and bake healthy meals at home.</quote> Amazing that you'd go as far as trying to take away someone's own success from them to try and prove your point. "It's not that you worked hard and persevered. You're just privileged!" </quote> It might shock you to know that privilege and success aren't mutually exclusive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chrono625 09/29/19 8:06:20 PM #58:	s0nicfan posted... Amazing that you'd go as far as trying to take away someone's own success from them to try and prove your point. "It's not that you worked hard and persevered. You're just privileged!" All of this. --- https://imgur.com/Rqk1DYV - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's <cite>chrono625 posted [p:928117942] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite> <quote>Amazing that you'd go as far as trying to take away someone's own success from them to try and prove your point. "It's not that you worked hard and persevered. You're just privileged!"</quote> All of this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 09/29/19 8:07:46 PM #59:	It requires willpower to buy healthy food or spend extra time cooking versus ordering higher calorie takeout. The article glosses over this by saying "access to the right food, the right environment," which is a cop out. Everyone has access. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:928117988] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>It requires willpower to buy healthy food or spend extra time cooking versus ordering higher calorie takeout. The article glosses over this by saying "access to the right food, the right environment," which is a cop out. Everyone has access. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrNintendo1213 09/29/19 8:07:50 PM #60:	"Fat-shaming is bad" and "obesity can be overcame with willpower" aren't mutually exclusive. You can be supportive as you want, but it is still up to them to stick with it and use their willpower to get healthy. It is the same as any other addiction. Being an alcoholic takes willpower to get better too. --- Dot Dot Dot... <cite>MrNintendo1213 posted [p:928117990] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>"Fat-shaming is bad" and "obesity can be overcame with willpower" aren't mutually exclusive. You can be supportive as you want, but it is still up to them to stick with it and use their willpower to get healthy. It is the same as any other addiction. Being an alcoholic takes willpower to get better too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 09/29/19 8:08:16 PM #61:	A big problem is what is being referred to as "willpower" is as much genetic as these other factors are. So saying oh you're genetically predisposed to be obese, but you can just willpower over it, doesn't mean much. That very well might be related to them same stress response changed seen in obese people. Willpower isn't some kind of magic ability, it is born of the same genetics as all our other traits, and shaped by the environment they live in. If their genes and environment lead to low willpower that isn't anymore something they can just change anymore than someone with schizophrenia can just change it. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:928118011] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>A big problem is what is being referred to as "willpower" is as much genetic as these other factors are. So saying oh you're genetically predisposed to be obese, but you can just willpower over it, doesn't mean much. That very well might be related to them same stress response changed seen in obese people. Willpower isn't some kind of magic ability, it is born of the same genetics as all our other traits, and shaped by the environment they live in. If their genes and environment lead to low willpower that isn't anymore something they can just change anymore than someone with schizophrenia can just change it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 09/29/19 8:08:20 PM #62:	Guide posted... It might shock you to know that privilege and success aren't mutually exclusive. Neither are they dependent. BBT took someone who worked hard to lose their weight and told them it wasn't their effort that mattered. That's just as bad as fat shaming, if not worse. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:928118015] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite> <quote>It might shock you to know that privilege and success aren't mutually exclusive.</quote> Neither are they dependent. BBT took someone who worked hard to lose their weight and told them it wasn't their effort that mattered. That's just as bad as fat shaming, if not worse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 09/29/19 8:08:23 PM #63:	The Admiral posted... It requires willpower to buy healthy food or spend extra time cooking versus ordering higher calorie takeout. Not if they're too busy with other things. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:928118017] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>It requires willpower to buy healthy food or spend extra time cooking versus ordering higher calorie takeout.</quote> Not if they're too busy with other things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 09/29/19 8:09:35 PM #64:	s0nicfan posted... Neither are they dependent. BBT took someone who worked hard to lose their weight and told them it wasn't their effort that mattered. That's just as bad as fat shaming, if not worse. I didn't say that it didn't matter. There are millions of people who have worked harder than you, but still haven't succeeded. I am saying that environmental factors are often more important. And the studies are proving that to be true. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:928118052] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Neither are they dependent. BBT took someone who worked hard to lose their weight and told them it wasn't their effort that mattered. That's just as bad as fat shaming, if not worse.</quote> I didn't say that it didn't matter. There are millions of people who have worked harder than you, but still haven't succeeded. I am saying that environmental factors are often more important. And the studies are proving that to be true.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 09/29/19 8:09:35 PM #65:	Barenziah Boy Toy posted... Not if they're too busy with other things. Budgeting your time or cooking meals in advance if you have a busy week takes willpower. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:928118053] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>Barenziah Boy Toy posted... </cite> <quote>Not if they're too busy with other things.</quote> Budgeting your time or cooking meals in advance if you have a busy week takes willpower. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 09/29/19 8:10:01 PM #66:	Barenziah Boy Toy posted... The Admiral posted... It requires willpower to buy healthy food or spend extra time cooking versus ordering higher calorie takeout. Not if they're too busy with other things. You can live on fast food and not get fat if youre not eating more calories than you burn. Its simple math. Stop being lazy. --- https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN Take better care of your teeth and f***, a lot more. <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:928118069] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>It requires willpower to buy healthy food or spend extra time cooking versus ordering higher calorie takeout.</quote> Not if they're too busy with other things.</quote> You can live on fast food and not get fat if youre not eating more calories than you burn. Its simple math. Stop being lazy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 09/29/19 8:10:34 PM #67:	The Admiral posted... Budgeting your time or cooking meals in advance if you have a busy week takes willpower. And some people have too many other important things to do. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:928118095] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Budgeting your time or cooking meals in advance if you have a busy week takes willpower.</quote> And some people have too many other important things to do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FursonaNonGrata 09/29/19 8:11:16 PM #68:	The Admiral posted... It requires willpower to buy healthy food or spend extra time cooking versus ordering higher calorie takeout. The article glosses over this by saying "access to the right food, the right environment," which is a cop out. Everyone has access. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert --- A.M.A.B. ~The Outlaw Country of Posting~ <cite>FursonaNonGrata posted [p:928118119] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>It requires willpower to buy healthy food or spend extra time cooking versus ordering higher calorie takeout. The article glosses over this by saying "access to the right food, the right environment," which is a cop out. Everyone has access. </quote> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 09/29/19 8:11:36 PM #69:	RebelElite791 posted... Barenziah Boy Toy posted... The Admiral posted... It requires willpower to buy healthy food or spend extra time cooking versus ordering higher calorie takeout. Not if they're too busy with other things. You can live on fast food and not get fat if youre not eating more calories than you burn. Its simple math. Stop being lazy. Why is it so important to you to be able to put down fat people, specifically? I have you tagged for this from a prior, similar topic. --- formerly evening formerly guide https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:928118128] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>It requires willpower to buy healthy food or spend extra time cooking versus ordering higher calorie takeout.</quote> Not if they're too busy with other things.</quote> You can live on fast food and not get fat if youre not eating more calories than you burn. Its simple math. Stop being lazy.</quote> Why is it so important to you to be able to put down fat people, specifically? I have you tagged for this from a prior, similar topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 09/29/19 8:12:26 PM #70:	Guide posted... RebelElite791 posted... Barenziah Boy Toy posted... The Admiral posted... It requires willpower to buy healthy food or spend extra time cooking versus ordering higher calorie takeout. Not if they're too busy with other things. You can live on fast food and not get fat if youre not eating more calories than you burn. Its simple math. Stop being lazy. Why is it so important to you to be able to put down fat people, specifically? I have you tagged for this from a prior, similar topic. CICO exists and matters is not putting anyone down. And because HAES/fat acceptance is antiscientific, dangerous bullshit --- https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN Take better care of your teeth and f***, a lot more. <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:928118151] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted...</cite> <quote>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>It requires willpower to buy healthy food or spend extra time cooking versus ordering higher calorie takeout.</quote> Not if they're too busy with other things.</quote> You can live on fast food and not get fat if youre not eating more calories than you burn. Its simple math. Stop being lazy.</quote> Why is it so important to you to be able to put down fat people, specifically? I have you tagged for this from a prior, similar topic.</quote> CICO exists and matters is not putting anyone down. And because HAES/fat acceptance is antiscientific, dangerous bullshit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 09/29/19 8:12:27 PM #71:	Barenziah Boy Toy posted... I didn't say that it didn't matter. There are millions of people who have worked harder than you, but still haven't succeeded. I am saying that environmental factors are often more important. And the studies are proving that to be true. And AGAIN, you can put an obese person in the perfect environmental conditions and if they don't put in the effort they won't lose weight. How can environmental factors possibly matter more than actual hard work if a lack of hard work leads to a 100% failure rate, but hard work can itself overcome environmental factors? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:928118153] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>Barenziah Boy Toy posted... </cite> <quote>I didn't say that it didn't matter. There are millions of people who have worked harder than you, but still haven't succeeded. I am saying that environmental factors are often more important. And the studies are proving that to be true.</quote> And AGAIN, you can put an obese person in the perfect environmental conditions and if they don't put in the effort they won't lose weight. How can environmental factors possibly matter more than actual hard work if a lack of hard work leads to a 100% failure rate, but hard work can itself overcome environmental factors? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 09/29/19 8:12:48 PM #72:	Barenziah Boy Toy posted... And some people have too many other important things to do. Not being obese is pretty important. Sounds like an excuse to justify a lack of willpower. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:928118166] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>Barenziah Boy Toy posted... </cite> <quote>And some people have too many other important things to do.</quote> Not being obese is pretty important. Sounds like an excuse to justify a lack of willpower. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 09/29/19 8:13:05 PM #73:	RebelElite791 posted... Guide posted... RebelElite791 posted... Barenziah Boy Toy posted... The Admiral posted... It requires willpower to buy healthy food or spend extra time cooking versus ordering higher calorie takeout. Not if they're too busy with other things. You can live on fast food and not get fat if youre not eating more calories than you burn. Its simple math. Stop being lazy. Why is it so important to you to be able to put down fat people, specifically? I have you tagged for this from a prior, similar topic. CICO exists and matters is not putting anyone down. And because HAES/fat acceptance is antiscientific, dangerous bullshit No, CICO is fine. I'm looking at you, your posts, and "stop being lazy" in that last post. Why is it important to you to be able to put down fat people as lazy? --- formerly evening formerly guide https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:928118174] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote>Guide posted...</cite> <quote>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>It requires willpower to buy healthy food or spend extra time cooking versus ordering higher calorie takeout.</quote> Not if they're too busy with other things.</quote> You can live on fast food and not get fat if youre not eating more calories than you burn. Its simple math. Stop being lazy.</quote> Why is it so important to you to be able to put down fat people, specifically? I have you tagged for this from a prior, similar topic.</quote> CICO exists and matters is not putting anyone down. And because HAES/fat acceptance is antiscientific, dangerous bullshit</quote> No, CICO is fine. I'm looking at you, your posts, and "stop being lazy" in that last post. Why is it important to you to be able to put down fat people as lazy?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DanHaren2019 09/29/19 8:14:02 PM #74:	Fat shaming is the dumbest thing ever. Who are you to patronize someone else, ur not their fucking parent. Do fat shamers also lecture smokers to not smoke? Or lecture random people at restaurants that they shouldn't be eating out because its bad for their cholesterol or their blood pressure? <cite>DanHaren2019 posted [p:928118207] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>Fat shaming is the dumbest thing ever. Who are you to patronize someone else, ur not their fucking parent. Do fat shamers also lecture smokers to not smoke? Or lecture random people at restaurants that they shouldn't be eating out because its bad for their cholesterol or their blood pressure?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Barenziah Boy Toy 09/29/19 8:23:21 PM #76:	The Admiral posted... Not being obese is pretty important. Not as important as keeping your job so that you can support your family. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:928118542] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Not being obese is pretty important.</quote> Not as important as keeping your job so that you can support your family.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 09/29/19 8:24:21 PM #77:	s0nicfan posted... And AGAIN, you can put an obese person in the perfect environmental conditions and if they don't put in the effort they won't lose weight. Yes, some people can indeed lose a lot of weight, with very little effort or motivation. All you have to do is just feed them healthy food that they actually like and don't have to go out of their way to get, and more often than not, they'll lose weight. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:928118579] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>And AGAIN, you can put an obese person in the perfect environmental conditions and if they don't put in the effort they won't lose weight.</quote> Yes, some people can indeed lose a lot of weight, with very little effort or motivation. All you have to do is just feed them healthy food that they actually like and don't have to go out of their way to get, and more often than not, they'll lose weight.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 09/29/19 8:27:35 PM #78:	It's really quite simple. Why are Japanese and Nordic countries so much skinnier and healthier than the US? Is it really because Japanese and Scandinavians have 1000x more willpower than Americans? --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:928118685] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>It's really quite simple. Why are Japanese and Nordic countries so much skinnier and healthier than the US? Is it really because Japanese and Scandinavians have 1000x more willpower than Americans?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThunderTrain 09/29/19 8:29:14 PM #79:	It is entirely a choice lmao --- Without this nobody reads the last line of a post Praise Lord Helix <cite>ThunderTrain posted [p:928118752] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>It is entirely a choice lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 09/29/19 8:31:37 PM #80:	Barenziah Boy Toy posted... It's really quite simple. Why are Japanese and Nordic countries so much skinnier and healthier than the US? Is it really because Japanese and Scandinavians have 1000x more willpower than Americans? It's because you have to walk constantly in Japan and most of the food options here are comparatively low calorie. There are obese people here, but they're rare, because the environment forces you to be active and a lot of the food just isn't high in calories like America. My town doesn't even have a single Western style restaurant. I would have to take a train to the city to find one and even then if you asked me where the nearest fast food is there I wouldn't be able to tell you. I wouldn't be surprised if Tokyo has the highest obesity rates here due to lots of Western food options and less walking required. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:928118846] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote>It's really quite simple. Why are Japanese and Nordic countries so much skinnier and healthier than the US? Is it really because Japanese and Scandinavians have 1000x more willpower than Americans?</quote> It's because you have to walk constantly in Japan and most of the food options here are comparatively low calorie. There are obese people here, but they're rare, because the environment forces you to be active and a lot of the food just isn't high in calories like America. My town doesn't even have a single Western style restaurant. I would have to take a train to the city to find one and even then if you asked me where the nearest fast food is there I wouldn't be able to tell you. I wouldn't be surprised if Tokyo has the highest obesity rates here due to lots of Western food options and less walking required.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 09/29/19 8:31:55 PM #81:	s0nicfan posted... Barenziah Boy Toy posted... I didn't say that it didn't matter. There are millions of people who have worked harder than you, but still haven't succeeded. I am saying that environmental factors are often more important. And the studies are proving that to be true. And AGAIN, you can put an obese person in the perfect environmental conditions and if they don't put in the effort they won't lose weight. How can environmental factors possibly matter more than actual hard work if a lack of hard work leads to a 100% failure rate, but hard work can itself overcome environmental factors? An obese person has already developed the habits that lead to their obesity. And tbh I have a feeling that a lot of the times its enabled, too. I knew a kid who was in the 5th or 6th grade who was just normal chubby. Like, he was overweight, but not a way that most people would take notice. I didnt see him again until his graduation and he ballooned up to Chumlee levels. It was surreal. Of course, his dad was really big. And while his mom was a beanpole, she was married to the guy. I dunno, I definitely feel like his upbringing had a hand in how he turned out. Its been almost a decade since then though so idk if he lost any of it. --- https://i.imgtc.com/8ePXf9B.gif If Yamcha would have brought his bat along he'd have blasted Jiren out of the ring like Ness in smash brothers. - Gids_goft <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:928118858] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Barenziah Boy Toy posted... </cite> <quote>I didn't say that it didn't matter. There are millions of people who have worked harder than you, but still haven't succeeded. I am saying that environmental factors are often more important. And the studies are proving that to be true.</quote> And AGAIN, you can put an obese person in the perfect environmental conditions and if they don't put in the effort they won't lose weight. How can environmental factors possibly matter more than actual hard work if a lack of hard work leads to a 100% failure rate, but hard work can itself overcome environmental factors? </quote> An obese person has already developed the habits that lead to their obesity. And tbh I have a feeling that a lot of the times its enabled, too. I knew a kid who was in the 5th or 6th grade who was just normal chubby. Like, he was overweight, but not a way that most people would take notice. I didnt see him again until his graduation and he ballooned up to Chumlee levels. It was surreal. Of course, his dad was really big. And while his mom was a beanpole, she was married to the guy. I dunno, I definitely feel like his upbringing had a hand in how he turned out. Its been almost a decade since then though so idk if he lost any of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 09/29/19 8:32:46 PM #82:	ssjevot posted... It's because you have to walk constantly in Japan and most of the food options here are comparatively low calorie. There are obese people here, but they're rare, because the environment forces you to be active and a lot of the food just isn't high in calories like America. Thank you. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:928118907] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>ssjevot posted...</cite> <quote>It's because you have to walk constantly in Japan and most of the food options here are comparatively low calorie. There are obese people here, but they're rare, because the environment forces you to be active and a lot of the food just isn't high in calories like America.</quote> Thank you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ultima Dragon 09/29/19 8:41:31 PM #83:	It's not even about eating healthy food, it's just about eating less of the bad stuff.. and moving more. I grew up in a shitty household, was poor all my life and still am, lots of stress/anxiety/depression. Diabetes and heart disease run in my family and most of them are overweight including my own mother who I would consider obese. So I'm not genetically gifted by any means. To this day I still have a shit diet (takeout every single day). I can make whatever excuse I want for it. It was how I learned/grew up, I don't have the time or money to prepare proper meals, whatever. But at the end of the day it's still on me for eating bad food and I know it. However, I hit the weights every day and stay active. I drink only water and keep the really bad stuff (sugar laden candies/desserts, empty calories like chips and the like) to a minimum. If I'm going to go to McDonalds, I'll grab a burger and fries (water or no drink) and make it work with my daily goals. Because of this, I've managed to stay in good shape and without health issues for my entire life so far (33 right now). I will always agree that fat people shouldn't be treated any worse than the rest of us (like, I imagine saying that kind of shit to my own mother for example.. no way). But food is an addiction like any other, and it can have similar or worse health implications than any other drug addiction that people turn to in order to cope with upbringing or stress/depression. I think rehab programs preach a lot about personal accountability, so I really think that pretending the problem is 100% out of their control (or worse, pretending that there isn't a problem at all) isn't the answer. That's just going to keep people sitting around and waiting for a magic pill to come out that will solve their "impossible to fix" problems for them that they were "just born with." When in reality, self-control and diligent physical activity are the only things that are going to get you there. --- "We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz <cite>Ultima Dragon posted [p:928119231] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>It's not even about eating healthy food, it's just about eating less of the bad stuff.. and moving more. I grew up in a shitty household, was poor all my life and still am, lots of stress/anxiety/depression. Diabetes and heart disease run in my family and most of them are overweight including my own mother who I would consider obese. So I'm not genetically gifted by any means. To this day I still have a shit diet (takeout every single day). I can make whatever excuse I want for it. It was how I learned/grew up, I don't have the time or money to prepare proper meals, whatever. But at the end of the day it's still on me for eating bad food and I know it. However, I hit the weights every day and stay active. I drink only water and keep the really bad stuff (sugar laden candies/desserts, empty calories like chips and the like) to a minimum. If I'm going to go to McDonalds, I'll grab a burger and fries (water or no drink) and make it work with my daily goals. Because of this, I've managed to stay in good shape and without health issues for my entire life so far (33 right now). I will always agree that fat people shouldn't be treated any worse than the rest of us (like, I imagine saying that kind of shit to my own mother for example.. no way). But food is an addiction like any other, and it can have similar or worse health implications than any other drug addiction that people turn to in order to cope with upbringing or stress/depression. I think rehab programs preach a lot about personal accountability, so I really think that pretending the problem is 100% out of their control (or worse, pretending that there isn't a problem at all) isn't the answer. That's just going to keep people sitting around and waiting for a magic pill to come out that will solve their "impossible to fix" problems for them that they were "just born with." When in reality, self-control and diligent physical activity are the only things that are going to get you there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 09/29/19 8:44:09 PM #84:	When I decided to lose weight, people being supportive definitely was far better for me than people trying to shame me about it. --- https://i.imgtc.com/oKFWxht.jpg https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:928119330] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>When I decided to lose weight, people being supportive definitely was far better for me than people trying to shame me about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 09/29/19 8:45:01 PM #85:	Barenziah Boy Toy posted... It's really quite simple. Why are Japanese and Nordic countries so much skinnier and healthier than the US? Is it really because Japanese and Scandinavians have 1000x more willpower than Americans? Uhh, yeah? Go to Scandinavia and compare portion sizes and the kinds of food that gets eaten. If youd ever left your home city youd know this --- https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN Take better care of your teeth and f***, a lot more. <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:928119361] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote>It's really quite simple. Why are Japanese and Nordic countries so much skinnier and healthier than the US? Is it really because Japanese and Scandinavians have 1000x more willpower than Americans?</quote> Uhh, yeah? Go to Scandinavia and compare portion sizes and the kinds of food that gets eaten. If youd ever left your home city youd know this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CM_Ponch 09/29/19 8:45:57 PM #86:	What fatty wrote the article --- SW-8316-3213-4720 <cite>CM_Ponch posted [p:928119396] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>What fatty wrote the article</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 09/29/19 8:45:59 PM #87:	This just in: All home cities neighbor Scandiland. --- formerly evening formerly guide https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:928119400] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>This just in: All home cities neighbor Scandiland.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RebelElite791 09/29/19 8:47:47 PM #89:	Guide posted... This just in: All home cities neighbor Scandiland. Dont need to live there to adopt their portions and foods --- https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN Take better care of your teeth and f***, a lot more. <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:928119470] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted...</cite> <quote>This just in: All home cities neighbor Scandiland.</quote> Dont need to live there to adopt their portions and foods</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 09/29/19 8:48:24 PM #90:	RebelElite791 posted... Barenziah Boy Toy posted... It's really quite simple. Why are Japanese and Nordic countries so much skinnier and healthier than the US? Is it really because Japanese and Scandinavians have 1000x more willpower than Americans? Uhh, yeah? Go to Scandinavia and compare portion sizes and the kinds of food that gets eaten. If youd ever left your home city youd know this To be fair I have only been to Finland, and only for a few days, but they didn't have big proportion American calorie piles at the places I went to. Not to say fast food wasn't available, but I didn't go to Finland to eat fast food. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:928119488] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote>It's really quite simple. Why are Japanese and Nordic countries so much skinnier and healthier than the US? Is it really because Japanese and Scandinavians have 1000x more willpower than Americans?</quote> Uhh, yeah? Go to Scandinavia and compare portion sizes and the kinds of food that gets eaten. If youd ever left your home city youd know this</quote> To be fair I have only been to Finland, and only for a few days, but they didn't have big proportion American calorie piles at the places I went to. Not to say fast food wasn't available, but I didn't go to Finland to eat fast food.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 09/29/19 8:48:24 PM #91:	And dodge questions that might make him examine his behavior for once. --- formerly evening formerly guide https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:928119490] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>And dodge questions that might make him examine his behavior for once.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Barenziah Boy Toy 09/29/19 8:49:05 PM #93:	RebelElite791 posted... Uhh, yeah? Go to Scandinavia and compare portion sizes and the kinds of food that gets eaten. If youd ever left your home city youd know this So you're admitting that Scandinavians and Japanese people have 1000x more willpower than Americans. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:928119517] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote>Uhh, yeah? Go to Scandinavia and compare portion sizes and the kinds of food that gets eaten. If youd ever left your home city youd know this</quote> So you're admitting that Scandinavians and Japanese people have 1000x more willpower than Americans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 09/29/19 8:50:15 PM #95:	RebelElite791 posted... Guide posted... This just in: All home cities neighbor Scandiland. Dont need to live there to adopt their portions and foods "you'd know about scandi if you left your city" your paraphrased words, not mine. --- formerly evening formerly guide https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:928119570] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote>Guide posted...</cite> <quote>This just in: All home cities neighbor Scandiland.</quote> Dont need to live there to adopt their portions and foods</quote> "you'd know about scandi if you left your city" your paraphrased words, not mine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 09/29/19 8:51:43 PM #96:	Hairistotle posted... Guide posted... And dodge questions that might make him examine his behavior for once. he is fully aware of his behavior imo Sure, but not of why he's like that. For example, some people defend being raised in shitty ways to avoid having to admit they were ever abused in the first place. "My dad being me was the best, it made me who I am today" Yeah John, now you wet the bed and start fights at bus stops. --- formerly evening formerly guide https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:928119620] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote>Guide posted...</cite> <quote>And dodge questions that might make him examine his behavior for once.</quote> he is fully aware of his behavior imo</quote> Sure, but not of why he's like that. For example, some people defend being raised in shitty ways to avoid having to admit they were ever abused in the first place. "My dad being me was the best, it made me who I am today" Yeah John, now you wet the bed and start fights at bus stops.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 09/29/19 8:52:02 PM #97:	Barenziah Boy Toy posted... RebelElite791 posted... Uhh, yeah? Go to Scandinavia and compare portion sizes and the kinds of food that gets eaten. If youd ever left your home city youd know this So you're admitting that Scandinavians and Japanese people have 1000x more willpower than Americans. Admitting? Thats what im arguing. Guide posted... RebelElite791 posted... Guide posted... This just in: All home cities neighbor Scandiland. Dont need to live there to adopt their portions and foods "you'd know about scandi if you left your city" your paraphrased words, not mine. So get out into the world and dont be a shutin --- https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN Take better care of your teeth and f***, a lot more. <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:928119637] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote>Uhh, yeah? Go to Scandinavia and compare portion sizes and the kinds of food that gets eaten. If youd ever left your home city youd know this</quote> So you're admitting that Scandinavians and Japanese people have 1000x more willpower than Americans.</quote> Admitting? Thats what im arguing. Guide posted...</cite> <quote>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote>Guide posted...</cite> <quote>This just in: All home cities neighbor Scandiland.</quote> Dont need to live there to adopt their portions and foods</quote> "you'd know about scandi if you left your city" your paraphrased words, not mine.</quote> So get out into the world and dont be a shutin</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealthRock 09/29/19 8:53:07 PM #98:	If that chick is obese then i dont see the problem --- Pokemon is awesome <cite>StealthRock posted [p:928119678] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>If that chick is obese then i dont see the problem</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 09/29/19 8:53:43 PM #99:	So get out into the world and dont be a shutin "don't need to live in scandi to adapt" make up your mind boombot --- formerly evening formerly guide https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:928119702] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote><quote> So get out into the world and dont be a shutin</quote> "don't need to live in scandi to adapt" make up your mind boombot</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 09/29/19 8:54:26 PM #100:	Guide posted... So get out into the world and dont be a shutin "don't need to live in scandi to adapt" make up your mind boombot Did I say to go live there? Are you actually illiterate or is it an act? --- https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN Take better care of your teeth and f***, a lot more. <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:928119725] in Prominent ... [t:78051191]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted...</cite> <quote><quote> So get out into the world and dont be a shutin</quote> "don't need to live in scandi to adapt" make up your mind boombot</quote> Did I say to go live there? Are you actually illiterate or is it an act?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > Prominent studies are showing that Obesity is NOT caused by lack of Willpower . (+) Yeah! (+)

Current Events > Prominent studies are showing that Obesity is NOT caused by lack of Willpower .