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lydiaquayle
09/26/19 4:55:31 PM
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with President Volodymyr Zelenskyy .

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/26/politics/read-whistleblower-complaint-trump-ukraine/index.html

In the days following the phone call, I learned from multiple U.S. officials that senior White House officials had intervened to "lock down" all records of the phone call, especially the official word-for-word transcript of the call that was produced -- as is customary -- by the White House Situation Room. This set of actions underscored to me that White House officials understood the gravity of what had transpired in the call.

-- White House officials told me that they were "directed" by White House lawyers to remove the electronic transcript from the computer system in which such transcripts are typically stored for coordination, finalization, and distribution to Cabinet-level officials.

-- Instead, the transcript was loaded into a separate electronic system that is otherwise used to store and handle classified information of an especially sensitive nature. One White House official described this act as an abuse of this electronic system because the call did not contain anything remotely sensitive from a national security perspective.

I do not know whether similar measures were taken to restrict access to other records of the call, such as contemporaneous handwritten notes taken by those who listened in.

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Wetterdew
09/26/19 5:14:39 PM
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And then the version they released was paraphrased, 100% cleaned up to make Trump look better than the actual transcript would have.
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Tyranthraxus
09/26/19 5:15:34 PM
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But her emails

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CADE FOSTER
09/26/19 5:15:57 PM
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Trump and all the republicans are traitors to America sad times we live in where they are allowed to continue to fuck us all over
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CommonStar
09/26/19 5:16:57 PM
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Instead, the transcript was loaded into a separate electronic system that is otherwise used to store and handle classified information of an especially sensitive nature.


So they tried to move them to a secret server...hmm...

BUT HILLARY!
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kelemvor
09/26/19 5:43:31 PM
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Is everything always an anonymous source? I don't like the guy either but I'm tired of the breathless accusations by the news with absolutely no sources except speculation and second/thirdhand hearsay.

So I don't even care anymore.
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CADE FOSTER
09/26/19 5:45:09 PM
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if everything he has done hasnt swayed you yet you are a trump supporter and anything and everything he has done is ok by you
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Anteaterking
09/26/19 5:45:28 PM
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kelemvor posted...
Is everything always an anonymous source? I don't like the guy either but I'm tired of the breathless accusations by the news with absolutely no sources except speculation and second/thirdhand hearsay.


Do you understand how whistleblowing works?
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Duncanwii
09/26/19 5:45:37 PM
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kelemvor posted...
Is everything always an anonymous source? I don't like the guy either but I'm tired of the breathless accusations by the news with absolutely no sources except speculation and second/thirdhand hearsay.

So I don't even care anymore.

Would you let a tyrant like Trump know you are plotting against him?
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CADE FOSTER
09/26/19 5:46:44 PM
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Questionmarktarius
09/26/19 5:47:34 PM
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Considering the "this time!" shitstorm this time, may as well have.
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Doom_Art
09/26/19 5:55:37 PM
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kelemvor posted...
Is everything always an anonymous source? I don't like the guy either but I'm tired of the breathless accusations by the news with absolutely no sources except speculation and second/thirdhand hearsay.

So I don't even care anymore.


Suuuuuure lol

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AlecSkorpio
09/26/19 5:57:31 PM
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Just when I thought I wouldn't have to hear about emails anymore, now I'm going to have to see endless topics about phone calls.

Just fucking great.
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darkjedilink
09/26/19 5:59:35 PM
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BREAKING: The President of the United States has supreme authority to do that.
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sktgamer_13dude
09/26/19 6:00:45 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
BREAKING: The President of the United States has supreme authority to do that.

Pretty sure destroying evidence is a crime.

If there was no reason to delete the transcript, hed have no reason to delete it and nothing to hide.
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twitterfriends
09/26/19 6:00:53 PM
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Usually I say the cover up is worse than the crime, but this case the crime is seriously fucked up and Trump and the Republicans have just completely tarnished their party's image for the next century.
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FursonaNonGrata
09/26/19 6:04:30 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
BREAKING: The President of the United States has supreme authority to do that.


Pathetic. Try harder bud.
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TheDreadedWave
09/26/19 6:05:33 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
BREAKING: The President of the United States has supreme authority to do that.
I feel like you'd say that if he walked up and punched you in the mouth.

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Tyranthraxus
09/26/19 6:05:38 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
BREAKING: The President of the United States has supreme authority to do that.


The only thing breaking are the minds of Trump supporters

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UnfairRepresent
09/26/19 6:09:23 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
darkjedilink posted...
BREAKING: The President of the United States has supreme authority to do that.


The only thing breaking are the minds of Trump supporters

nothing will stop their support
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lydiaquayle
09/26/19 6:09:28 PM
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kelemvor posted...
Is everything always an anonymous source? I don't like the guy either but I'm tired of the breathless accusations by the news with absolutely no sources except speculation and second/thirdhand hearsay.

So I don't even care anymore.

The Director of National Intelligence, who was appointed by Trump, says that the whistleblower complaint is credible.
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darkjedilink
09/26/19 7:33:22 PM
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TheDreadedWave posted...
darkjedilink posted...
BREAKING: The President of the United States has supreme authority to do that.
I feel like you'd say that if he walked up and punched you in the mouth.

George Washington literally hid his records of negotiations with heads of state from Congress, specifically because they have no legal right to that info.
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lydiaquayle
09/26/19 8:02:05 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
George Washington literally hid his records of negotiations with heads of state from Congress, specifically because they have no legal right to that info.

Not when it involves meddling in federal elections. That's a violation of federal election law.
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lydiaquayle
09/26/19 8:03:16 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
BREAKING: The President of the United States has supreme authority to do that.

Not when it comes to federal election candidates. If you ask a foreign agent to investigate a federal election candidate, then you have to either clear it with the courts, OR publicly disclose it.
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lydiaquayle
09/26/19 8:04:24 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
BREAKING: The President of the United States has supreme authority to do that.

Did Richard Nixon have supreme authority to spy on DNC offices without any evidence that they were a national security risk?
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MorbidFaithless
09/26/19 8:06:23 PM
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At this point we need to remove all Republicans from public office

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Shuto-uke
09/26/19 8:08:49 PM
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lydiaquayle posted...
with President Volodymyr Zelenskyy .

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/26/politics/read-whistleblower-complaint-trump-ukraine/index.html

In the days following the phone call, I learned from multiple U.S. officials that senior White House officials had intervened to "lock down" all records of the phone call, especially the official word-for-word transcript of the call that was produced -- as is customary -- by the White House Situation Room. This set of actions underscored to me that White House officials understood the gravity of what had transpired in the call.

-- White House officials told me that they were "directed" by White House lawyers to remove the electronic transcript from the computer system in which such transcripts are typically stored for coordination, finalization, and distribution to Cabinet-level officials.

-- Instead, the transcript was loaded into a separate electronic system that is otherwise used to store and handle classified information of an especially sensitive nature. One White House official described this act as an abuse of this electronic system because the call did not contain anything remotely sensitive from a national security perspective.

I do not know whether similar measures were taken to restrict access to other records of the call, such as contemporaneous handwritten notes taken by those who listened in.


How is this less bad than "but her emails", trump supporters?
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Hanky_Bannister
09/26/19 8:08:59 PM
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djl taking more L's

it never ends!
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Tyranthraxus
09/26/19 8:16:26 PM
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lydiaquayle posted...
Did Richard Nixon have supreme authority to spy on DNC offices without any evidence that they were a national security risk?
Maybe / Maybe not. He certainly seemed to think so as it's the basis of his "it's not illegal" quote, and he was never impeached over it, but rather was impeached (or almost impeached as he resigned just before it could happen) over obstruction of justice.

Kind of like how Bill Clinton wasn't impeached for sexual misconduct, he was impeached for lying about it.

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The Catgirl Fondler
09/26/19 8:18:11 PM
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Ah, this must be more of that "winning" I hear so much about.
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lydiaquayle
09/26/19 8:52:18 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Maybe / Maybe not. He certainly seemed to think so as it's the basis of his "it's not illegal" quote, and he was never impeached over it, but rather was impeached (or almost impeached as he resigned just before it could happen) over obstruction of justice.

Kind of like how Bill Clinton wasn't impeached for sexual misconduct, he was impeached for lying about it.
He wasn't impeached over it, because we didn't have the smoking gun. The problem is that Nixon used 'executive privilege' to hide the smoking gun.

But 100% if that smoking gun was revealed, he'd 100% easily be impeached.
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Weezy_Tha_Don
09/26/19 8:55:41 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Pretty sure destroying evidence is a crime.

If there was no reason to delete the transcript, hed have no reason to delete it and nothing to hide.


yeah you think hed know that since hes a cop lol

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darkjedilink
09/26/19 8:59:38 PM
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lydiaquayle posted...
darkjedilink posted...
BREAKING: The President of the United States has supreme authority to do that.

Not when it comes to federal election candidates. If you ask a foreign agent to investigate a federal election candidate, then you have to either clear it with the courts, OR publicly disclose it.

So, doesn't that mean that the whole Trump Russia thing was illegal from the outset?
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09/26/19 9:01:52 PM
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Hanky_Bannister
09/26/19 9:03:52 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
His emails!

isnt it ironic

DONTCHATHIIIIIINK
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lydiaquayle
09/26/19 9:09:02 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
So, doesn't that mean that the whole Trump Russia thing was illegal from the outset?

Dude. How fucking ignorant are you of basic shit?

1) Obama didn't ask any foreign officials to investigate Trump.

2) INDEPENDENT COURTS ALREADY APPROVED the warrants to investigate Putin's administration.

3) The investigation did not target Trump. It targeted Putin, and Russian spies and agents.

4) The INVESTIGATION WAS DISCLOSED. Nobody was trying to hide and lie !!

Holy fucking shit, how fucking ignorant are you of basic facts?
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sktgamer_13dude
09/26/19 9:23:55 PM
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Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Pretty sure destroying evidence is a crime.

If there was no reason to delete the transcript, hed have no reason to delete it and nothing to hide.


yeah you think hed know that since hes a cop lol

Thats darkprince, not DJL
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kingdrake2
09/26/19 9:32:17 PM
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the kicker of dogs, he swear he did it to wrestle his cat from the jaws of death.
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darkjedilink
09/26/19 9:45:44 PM
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lydiaquayle posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So, doesn't that mean that the whole Trump Russia thing was illegal from the outset?

Dude. How fucking ignorant are you of basic shit?

1) Obama didn't ask any foreign officials to investigate Trump.

2) INDEPENDENT COURTS ALREADY APPROVED the warrants to investigate Putin's administration.

3) The investigation did not target Trump. It targeted Putin, and Russian spies and agents.

4) The INVESTIGATION WAS DISCLOSED. Nobody was trying to hide and lie !!

Holy fucking shit, how fucking ignorant are you of basic facts?

Obama literally asked the Ukraine to investigate Trump's campaign manager.

The FISA warrants were based solely on a dossier bought and paid for by the DNC, which has yet to have a single part of it verified, and was assembled by someone the DOJ fired for being unreliable.

The investigation literally targeted Trump, which is why they bugged Trump Tower.

They not only didn't disclose it, they actively lied about it, explicitly stating that Trump was mentally ill for suggesting they bugged Trump Tower.
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Tyranthraxus
09/26/19 9:47:30 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
which has yet to have a single part of it verified
This is how you know you don't have to read anything this guy posts.

http://annotateddossier.com/

Cheers.

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CableZL
09/26/19 9:49:09 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
lydiaquayle posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So, doesn't that mean that the whole Trump Russia thing was illegal from the outset?

Dude. How fucking ignorant are you of basic shit?

1) Obama didn't ask any foreign officials to investigate Trump.

2) INDEPENDENT COURTS ALREADY APPROVED the warrants to investigate Putin's administration.

3) The investigation did not target Trump. It targeted Putin, and Russian spies and agents.

4) The INVESTIGATION WAS DISCLOSED. Nobody was trying to hide and lie !!

Holy fucking shit, how fucking ignorant are you of basic facts?

Obama literally asked the Ukraine to investigate Trump's campaign manager.

The FISA warrants were based solely on a dossier bought and paid for by the DNC, which has yet to have a single part of it verified, and was assembled by someone the DOJ fired for being unreliable.

The investigation literally targeted Trump, which is why they bugged Trump Tower.

They not only didn't disclose it, they actively lied about it, explicitly stating that Trump was mentally ill for suggesting they bugged Trump Tower.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Tower_wiretapping_allegations

Representative Devin Nunes, the then-chair of the House Intelligence Committee, said he would investigate the claim. At a House Intelligence Committee open hearing on March 20, 2017, Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Director James Comey stated that neither the FBI nor the Department of Justice (DOJ) possessed any information to support Donald Trump's wiretapping allegations. Nunes stated on March 23 that the Trump administration's communications might have been legally monitored during the transition period as part of an "incidental collection".[1]
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lilJoe457
09/26/19 9:51:09 PM
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Y'all are trying so hard to make up anything. Is it that hard to beat him on policy?
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kingdrake2
09/26/19 9:51:24 PM
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trump has been on obama for years ever since the wiretapping incident.
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lydiaquayle
09/26/19 10:39:02 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Obama literally asked the Ukraine to investigate Trump's campaign manager.

The FISA warrants were based solely on a dossier bought and paid for by the DNC, which has yet to have a single part of it verified, and was assembled by someone the DOJ fired for being unreliable.

The investigation literally targeted Trump, which is why they bugged Trump Tower.

They not only didn't disclose it, they actively lied about it, explicitly stating that Trump was mentally ill for suggesting they bugged Trump Tower.

Yep. Thank for you admitting that you don't even know the basic facts. Literally EVERYTHING that you just stated are Hannity talking points that have already been proven false.
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darkjedilink
09/26/19 10:46:09 PM
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lydiaquayle posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Obama literally asked the Ukraine to investigate Trump's campaign manager.

The FISA warrants were based solely on a dossier bought and paid for by the DNC, which has yet to have a single part of it verified, and was assembled by someone the DOJ fired for being unreliable.

The investigation literally targeted Trump, which is why they bugged Trump Tower.

They not only didn't disclose it, they actively lied about it, explicitly stating that Trump was mentally ill for suggesting they bugged Trump Tower.

Yep. Thank for you admitting that you don't even know the basic facts. Literally EVERYTHING that you just stated are Hannity talking points that have already been proven false.

Links to your claim that these are all proven false?
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Weezy_Tha_Don
09/26/19 11:27:03 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Thats darkprince, not DJL


oh yupp my bad. good lookin out

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Mr_Karate_II
09/27/19 12:14:22 AM
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Trump should have done been impeached by now. If it was any other president pulling this shit, they would have been impeached.
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