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Machete
09/25/19 5:09:16 PM
#202:


Bio1590 posted...
Why do these low-karma right-wing accounts keep showing up


Because their old accounts kept getting banned
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Hornezz
09/25/19 5:14:20 PM
#203:


It's a memo, so stop calling it a transcript. It even says on the first page:

CAUTION: A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion. The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty Officers and NSC policy staff assigned to listen and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place.



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TommyG663513
09/25/19 5:19:32 PM
#204:


Phantom_Nook posted...
Nancy is fired!
https://twitter.com/LeeHolly81/status/1176956675774996480


So does he have any real say in that?
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Tyranthraxus
09/25/19 5:21:54 PM
#205:


TommyG663513 posted...
So does he have any real say in that?
Yes.

If he resigns or is removed and Pence resigns after, Nancy will no longer be speaker of the house.

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Antifar
09/25/19 5:22:48 PM
#206:


TommyG663513 posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...
Nancy is fired!
https://twitter.com/LeeHolly81/status/1176956675774996480


So does he have any real say in that?

None whatsoever.
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Machete
09/25/19 5:22:52 PM
#207:


Hornezz posted...
It's a memo, so stop calling it a transcript. It even says on the first page:

CAUTION: A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion. The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty Officers and NSC policy staff assigned to listen and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place.




Lol it's like they were speaking directly to gamefaqs.gamespot.com user Caution998 when that was posted. His name is the first word in the message and is in all caps! Isn't that amusing? @Caution998
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twitterfriends
09/25/19 5:23:12 PM
#208:


Very low energy press conference by Trump today, he knows he's in deep deep shit.
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FursonaNonGrata
09/25/19 5:26:13 PM
#209:


TommyG663513 posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...
Nancy is fired!
https://twitter.com/LeeHolly81/status/1176956675774996480


So does he have any real say in that?


Not at all. Dudes brain is turning to soup.
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darkmaian23
09/25/19 5:30:13 PM
#210:


It's a memo, not a literal transcript. I don't know why people are getting those two things confused.
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pegusus123456
09/25/19 5:35:10 PM
#211:


Did anyone else get the feeling that Trump himself wrote this memo? I'm not really familiar with Zelensky. Does he actually talk exactly like Trump?
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Antifar
09/25/19 5:35:45 PM
#212:


pegusus123456 posted...
Did anyone else get the feeling that Trump himself wrote this memo? I'm not really familiar with Zelensky. Does he actually talk exactly like Trump?

FWIW, before becoming president, he played the president on TV.
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Bio1590
09/25/19 5:45:23 PM
#213:


darkmaian23 posted...
It's a memo, not a literal transcript. I don't know why people are getting those two things confused.

The media keeps referring to it as a transcript, that's the problem.
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Tired-Insomniac
09/25/19 5:45:44 PM
#214:


Phantom_Nook posted...
Nancy is fired!
https://twitter.com/LeeHolly81/status/1176956675774996480


He looks terrified in that video lmao

So a brief summary of the past couple of days:

-Trump makes an obviously sarcastic tweet about a 16 year old environmental activist

-16 year old environmental activist updates her profile info to match Trump's sarcastic remark instead of stooping to his level

-Nancy Pelosi announces official impeachment inquiry

-Trump releases transcript of the phone call that has caused such an uproar saying it basically proves he did nothing wrong

-Most sane individuals see that it actually does show he did something wrong

-Senate votes to overrule his emergency declaration about the border and the $3.6 billion for the wall is taken away

-Someone in the WH accidentally sent an email full of talking points to damage control this whole Ukraine thing to a bunch of Democrats (then pretty much said "wait please don't read that lmao)

-Trump gives even more incoherent than usual press conference and is visibly shaken at the past two days, showing very low energy.

And we're only on day one of the possible impeachment

Did I miss anything
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lolife67
09/25/19 5:46:25 PM
#215:


So he's literally saying he doesn't recognize Congress' power.

Nothing troubling about that at all...
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Tired-Insomniac
09/25/19 5:48:06 PM
#216:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/261-politics/78041460

Oh I did miss something, he has another whistleblower lmao
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Unknown381
09/25/19 5:49:26 PM
#217:


Lots of traitors among the Republican party, why do right wingers keep voting for traitors, criminals and sexual predators to represent them?
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Iodine
09/25/19 5:54:24 PM
#218:


https://twitter.com/PhilipRucker/status/1176961188804083713

I shouldn't be surprised but still.
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Hanky_Bannister
09/25/19 5:55:42 PM
#219:


TiamatNM posted...
I read it. This is really what they finally decide to impeach him over? Really? Trump is taking over relations with Ukraine from the Obama administration. Investigating possible wrongdoing that happened during the previous administration is his job. The Ukrainian president said publicly today that he was not pressured, and nothing in this transcript looks like he was anyway. On the contrary, he was extremely friendly to Trump.

who's alt is this?
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Unknown381
09/25/19 5:59:34 PM
#220:


Hanky_Bannister posted...
TiamatNM posted...
I read it. This is really what they finally decide to impeach him over? Really? Trump is taking over relations with Ukraine from the Obama administration. Investigating possible wrongdoing that happened during the previous administration is his job. The Ukrainian president said publicly today that he was not pressured, and nothing in this transcript looks like he was anyway. On the contrary, he was extremely friendly to Trump.

who's alt is this?

Probably some dumb foreign troll or an uneducated right winger.
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DanHaren2019
09/25/19 6:02:52 PM
#221:


Unknown381 posted...
Lots of traitors among the Republican party, why do right wingers keep voting for traitors, criminals and sexual predators to represent them?


Low IQ, easily brain washed, right wing will harness their lack of education and play on their bigotry and racism and emotions to get votes. They'll mudsling and their followers believe any of it.
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Tired-Insomniac
09/25/19 6:04:43 PM
#222:


Iodine posted...
https://twitter.com/PhilipRucker/status/1176961188804083713

I shouldn't be surprised but still.


Oh shit, throwing Pence under the bus lmao
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Caution998
09/25/19 6:12:39 PM
#223:


Machete posted...
Hornezz posted...
It's a memo, so stop calling it a transcript. It even says on the first page:

CAUTION: A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion. The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty Officers and NSC policy staff assigned to listen and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place.




Lol it's like they were speaking directly to gamefaqs.gamespot.com user Caution998 when that was posted. His name is the first word in the message and is in all caps! Isn't that amusing? @Caution998


Yeah they just omitted those parts where Trump tries to arrange a deal because duhhhh conspiracy!!!!

We already know more than the leaker since we have the transcript right in front of us.

The real issue with this phone call is going to be against the Democrats. CrowdStrike is the private firm that looked into the DNC server hacking when they didnt allow the FBI to look. They now know Trump has asked the Ukrainian leader to reopen that investigation.
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Machete
09/25/19 6:14:03 PM
#224:


Caution998 posted...
Machete posted...
Hornezz posted...
It's a memo, so stop calling it a transcript. It even says on the first page:

CAUTION: A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion. The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty Officers and NSC policy staff assigned to listen and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place.




Lol it's like they were speaking directly to gamefaqs.gamespot.com user Caution998 when that was posted. His name is the first word in the message and is in all caps! Isn't that amusing? @Caution998


Yeah they just omitted those parts where Trump tries to arrange a ?deal? because duhhhh conspiracy!!!!

We already know more than the leaker since we have the transcript right in front of us.

The real issue with this phone call is going to be against the Democrats. CrowdStrike is the private firm that looked into the DNC server hacking when they didn?t allow the FBI to look. They now know Trump has asked the Ukrainian leader to reopen that investigation.


^ clown town post
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Anteaterking
09/25/19 6:16:38 PM
#225:


Caution998 posted...
We already know more than the leaker since we have the transcript right in front of us.


Just curious, in your head-canon that you've established to avoid reality, how did the leaker get their information?

You don't think it was someone in the room/monitoring the call/etc. ?
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Caution998
09/25/19 6:18:14 PM
#226:


They were told the wrong information.
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Machete
09/25/19 6:19:08 PM
#227:


Caution998 posted...
They were told the wrong information.


"Fart"
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Kazi1212
09/25/19 6:22:42 PM
#228:


Betting odds already opened for this. Huge favorite for Trump to come out unscathed by all this, like with the Mueller report.
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Machete
09/25/19 6:24:27 PM
#229:


Kazi1212 posted...
Betting odds already opened for this. Huge favorite for Trump to come out unscathed by all this, like with the Mueller report.


Wow. I was so sure you weren't going to shitpost even though you've admitted a lot that you like to shitpost.
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Questionmarktarius
09/25/19 6:24:44 PM
#230:


Kazi1212 posted...
Betting odds already opened for this. Huge favorite for Trump to come out unscathed by all this, like with the Mueller report.

As in another thread, Trump knows the exact point when something becomes illegal, but doesn't give a shit about the ethical issues along the way.
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Kazi1212
09/25/19 6:26:24 PM
#231:


Questionmarktarius posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Betting odds already opened for this. Huge favorite for Trump to come out unscathed by all this, like with the Mueller report.

As in another thread, Trump knows the exact point when something becomes illegal, but doesn't give a shit about the ethical issues along the way.


Exactly
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ReiRei89
09/25/19 6:53:42 PM
#232:


Evan McMurry

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JUST IN: Ukrainian officials understood discussion of Biden probe was a condition for any phone call between Pres. Trump and Ukrainian Pres. Zelenskiy, an adviser to Zelenskiy tells @ABC News. https://abcn.ws/2mPgOPd

Evan McMurry

@evanmcmurry
MORE: It was clear that Trump will only have communications if they will discuss the Biden case, an anti-corruption advocate who now acts as an adviser to Zelenskiy says.


Welp, let's watch the GOP and Redcaps spin this.

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bover_87
09/25/19 6:54:32 PM
#233:


ReiRei89 posted...
Welp, let's watch the GOP and Redcaps spin this.
hoo boy

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BLAKUboy
09/25/19 6:54:37 PM
#234:


ReiRei89 posted...
Evan McMurry

@evanmcmurry
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JUST IN: Ukrainian officials understood discussion of Biden probe was a condition for any phone call between Pres. Trump and Ukrainian Pres. Zelenskiy, an adviser to Zelenskiy tells @ABC News. https://abcn.ws/2mPgOPd

Evan McMurry

@evanmcmurry
MORE: It was clear that Trump will only have communications if they will discuss the Biden case, an anti-corruption advocate who now acts as an adviser to Zelenskiy says.


Welp, let's watch the GOP and Redcaps spin this.

More quid-pro-quo.
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Bio1590
09/25/19 7:18:38 PM
#235:


So do you think there's a point where even the GOP wouldn't acquit him because they're once again terrified of "precedent"?
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Questionmarktarius
09/25/19 7:25:20 PM
#236:


Bio1590 posted...
So do you think there's a point where even the GOP wouldn't acquit him because they're once again terrified of "precedent"?

Maybe, if there's the viable belief that Pence would actually go all Ayatollah style in the remaining year or so before the election.
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bover_87
09/25/19 7:33:37 PM
#237:


Bio1590 posted...
So do you think there's a point where even the GOP wouldn't acquit him because they're once again terrified of "precedent"?
IMO, the GOP is purely looking to cover its own ass. I don't think they give two fucks about precedent, but if they think it will hurt their 2020 prospects you could definitely see some of them defecting.

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Bio1590
09/25/19 8:21:03 PM
#238:


I mean more like how we were told they voted down the money grab/emergency order for the border wall because they didn't want to set any kind of "precedent" for a Dem president to come in and go wild with emergency declarations.

Like basically what's the point with Trump where they actually say "If we acquit him we're just fucking ourselves in the future"?
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OldIronKing
09/25/19 8:25:17 PM
#239:


Anteaterking posted...
Just curious, in your head-canon that you've established to avoid reality, how did the leaker get their information?

You don't think it was someone in the room/monitoring the call/etc. ?

Thats already been established. You'd know if you read real news.
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Bio1590
09/25/19 8:28:26 PM
#240:


So from the sounds of it the whistleblower complaint wasn't entirely related to the Ukraine thing, just that the Ukraine thing was one of the instances being referred to.

Hmmmmmmm
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BLAKUboy
09/25/19 8:30:15 PM
#241:


I doubt Republicans will care about precedent, since they know there won't be a Democrat they can use this against. It's only Republicans that do this shit.

The only turning point will be if this gets so bad that it can't be spun and fondling Trump becomes political suicide.
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BLAKUboy
09/25/19 8:30:42 PM
#242:


Bio1590 posted...
So from the sounds of it the whistleblower complaint wasn't entirely related to the Ukraine thing, just that the Ukraine thing was one of the instances being referred to.

Hmmmmmmm

We knew this, I thought.
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Bio1590
09/25/19 8:34:11 PM
#243:


BLAKUboy posted...
Bio1590 posted...
So from the sounds of it the whistleblower complaint wasn't entirely related to the Ukraine thing, just that the Ukraine thing was one of the instances being referred to.

Hmmmmmmm

We knew this, I thought.

I may have missed something when I originally read it, I thought the idea was that there were multiple instances of Trump pressing the Ukraine on it, not that there were multiple instances of this happening with other countries.

Which now makes me wonder a) which countries and b) what was he asking for
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Illuminoius
09/25/19 9:30:16 PM
#244:


yeah, and his grades
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BLAKUboy
09/25/19 9:51:37 PM
#245:


It's now being reported this wasn't even the first call to Ukraine he tried this in. This goes at least as far back as April.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/25/us/politics/trump-ukraine-obsession.html
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DanHaren2019
09/25/19 10:02:24 PM
#246:


Nice.

It's also reported that the pentagon had certified that Ukraine made significant attempts to end corruption... Before trump froze aid to Ukraine. Which is one of the reasons trump says he froze it. Just more evidence that he's full of shit and froze aid for political gain.
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BLAKUboy
09/25/19 10:23:57 PM
#247:


https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2019/09/25/trump-giuliani-and-manafort-the-ukraine-scheme/

And now it's tied to Manafort and the Mueller probe. This would presumably bring all of that back into impeachment talks despite Pelosi's limitations.
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Bio1590
09/25/19 10:29:28 PM
#248:


BLAKUboy posted...
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2019/09/25/trump-giuliani-and-manafort-the-ukraine-scheme/

And now it's tied to Manafort and the Mueller probe. This would presumably bring all of that back into impeachment talks despite Pelosi's limitations.

Imagine if we actually knew this when it was originally reported that Trump's and Manafort's legal teams were meeting during the Mueller investigation.

Also if it comes down to "It wasn't the Russians, it was the Ukrainians"...jfc
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AbysmalTrinity
09/25/19 10:37:10 PM
#249:


Imagine believing Trump getting impeached.

Imagine him actually losing the 2020 elections.

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BLAKUboy
09/25/19 10:38:39 PM
#250:


It was still the Russians that interfered in 2016. This started as digging up dirt on some Ukrainians to muddy the waters on Manafort's corrupt dealings over there to justify pardoning him. Then when that didn't pan out, they decided to shift gears to the Biden thing which Rudy came upon "by accident".

There's a straight line, which should make all of Mueller's work admissible even under the scope Pelosi set to try to keep it out.
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Antifar
09/25/19 10:41:03 PM
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