Current Events > Unpopular opinion: The Hobbit trilogy wasn't bad

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Tired-Insomniac
09/20/19 10:01:10 PM
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There. I said it.
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AlecSkorpio
09/20/19 10:04:30 PM
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CEs opinion on movies has gotten really turrible as of late
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Tired-Insomniac
09/20/19 10:06:07 PM
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AlecSkorpio posted...
CEs opinion on movies has gotten really turrible as of late


I didn't say it was on par with LOTR

Just that it wasn't bad
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The Admiral
09/20/19 10:06:39 PM
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It wasn't bad, but it was mediocre and needlessly drawn out.

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AvantgardeAClue
09/20/19 10:09:10 PM
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While we're here, as someone who is completely new to LoTR do I read the book before the movie or vice versa

Trying to figure out why the movies had the biggest impact for people
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Zikten
09/20/19 10:09:39 PM
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I liked it. I admit it's not as good as LOTR. but it was still good. I enjoyed the movies.
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MarthGoomba
09/20/19 10:09:56 PM
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They were decent

Only Smaug was boring
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Zikten
09/20/19 10:10:19 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
While we're here, as someone who is completely new to LoTR do I read the book before the movie or vice versa

Trying to figure out why the movies had the biggest impact for people

I haven't read any of the tolkien books. I think most people haven't. you dont need to read them to appreciate the movies

I might try to read them someday. but I hear Tolkien's style of writing is hard to get through
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Tired-Insomniac
09/20/19 10:10:25 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
While we're here, as someone who is completely new to LoTR do I read the book before the movie or vice versa

Trying to figure out why the movies had the biggest impact for people


I read the books after. Loved both.
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Tired-Insomniac
09/20/19 10:11:00 PM
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The Admiral posted...
It wasn't bad, but it was mediocre and needlessly drawn out.


That I agree with, it should've been two movies at most.
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ASithLord7
09/20/19 10:11:17 PM
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First two were whatever, third was one of the worst movies ive ever seen
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AlecSkorpio
09/20/19 10:11:27 PM
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Tired-Insomniac posted...
AlecSkorpio posted...
CEs opinion on movies has gotten really turrible as of late


I didn't say it was on par with LOTR

Just that it wasn't bad


Yeah my bad I think I think less of it because of the length. Should have been two films tops
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smoke_break
09/20/19 10:12:42 PM
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How'd they even stretch it out to 3 movies? Granted I haven't read the book but it doesn't seem like a long book.

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hockeybub89
09/20/19 10:13:13 PM
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Clutch
09/20/19 10:13:18 PM
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Not enough songs.
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AvantgardeAClue
09/20/19 10:13:36 PM
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Zikten posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
While we're here, as someone who is completely new to LoTR do I read the book before the movie or vice versa

Trying to figure out why the movies had the biggest impact for people

I haven't read any of the tolkien books. I think most people haven't. you dont need to read them to appreciate the movies

I might try to read them someday. but I hear Tolkien's style of writing is hard to get through

Tired-Insomniac posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
While we're here, as someone who is completely new to LoTR do I read the book before the movie or vice versa

Trying to figure out why the movies had the biggest impact for people


I read the books after. Loved both.


Gotcha

I have audio books of the trilogy + the Hobbit ready to listen when I have time

Should I read The Hobbit first or is it a prequel to the trilogy
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Zikten
09/20/19 10:15:28 PM
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Hobbit was written first. so I guess start with that, if your going with the books.

technically in the book versions. Lord of the Rings is the sequel to The Hobbit
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AvantgardeAClue
09/20/19 10:16:40 PM
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Zikten posted...
Hobbit was written first. so I guess start with that, if your going with the books.

technically in the book versions. Lord of the Rings is the sequel to The Hobbit


Does movie Hobbits lead into LoTR well?

Judging from this topic I'm guessing not lol
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Zikten
09/20/19 10:18:18 PM
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not exactly. there is a big time gap between the end of The Hobbit and the start of Lord of the Rings.

in both the books and the movies, The Hobbit takes place decades before Lord of the Rings. the main character is a young man in The Hobbit. and in Lord of the Rings he is many many decades older. it's like over 50 years later or more I think.
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sabin017
09/20/19 10:19:40 PM
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They're not bad films, just held to a high standard.
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rodu_jr
09/20/19 10:20:58 PM
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It had moments, some very good moments, isolated among many not so good moments
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Tired-Insomniac
09/20/19 10:23:53 PM
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Zikten posted...
not exactly. there is a big time gap between the end of The Hobbit and the start of Lord of the Rings.

in both the books and the movies, The Hobbit takes place decades before Lord of the Rings. the main character is a young man in The Hobbit. and in Lord of the Rings he is many many decades older. it's like over 50 years later or more I think.


He's in his 50s in The Hobbit, 111 in LOTR

PrideOfLion posted...
It's not that long of a book, but there are definitely times when a one or two sentence description could easily be a ~10 minute scene. Not to mention things like Bilbo is knocked unconscious for certain scenes the movies decided to show, or showing what Gandalf was doing off-screen.
Could have easily been two though, three was milking it.


They took a bunch of stuff from the appendices too, didn't they?
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Tired-Insomniac
09/20/19 10:26:40 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
Zikten posted...
Hobbit was written first. so I guess start with that, if your going with the books.

technically in the book versions. Lord of the Rings is the sequel to The Hobbit


Does movie Hobbits lead into LoTR well?

Judging from this topic I'm guessing not lol


IMO it's like the first six Star Wars movies. Watch the original trilogy first. One of the very first scenes of The Hobbit takes place right before the beginning of LOTR and then boom 60 year flashback. Lots of references/foreshadowing that you'd appreciate more having watched LOTR first.
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Makeveli_lives
09/20/19 10:27:26 PM
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smoke_break posted...
How'd they even stretch it out to 3 movies? Granted I haven't read the book but it doesn't seem like a long book.

It was supposed to be 2 originally and also directed by Del Toro instead of Peter Jackson. Jackson did what he could given the demands but still. Originally he had like 3 years to prep for the original trilogy, for this one he comes on with 6 months to figure out how to work with someone else's vision and casting. It's no wonder it suffered. Studio saw dollar signs in a trilogy so they did it.

MarthGoomba posted...
They were decent

Only Smaug was boring

The second one? The second one was easily the best of the 3. The first was good but it was so goddamn long, they really could've cut an hour of footage and lost nothing of worth. 3rd was a waste of time, only 20-30 minutes of what happened needed to be shown to end the story. Dope fight for Legolas though.
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pfh1001
09/20/19 10:34:44 PM
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They sucked.
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Shotgunnova
09/20/19 10:35:38 PM
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That new QT3.14 elf they added in was
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Rikiaz
09/20/19 10:53:04 PM
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I agree. But the issue isnt that they were terrible, its that they should have been much better.
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stoltenberg11
09/20/19 11:08:20 PM
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It had an indulgent amount of callbacks to the LotR trilogy and that stuff with the poorly CGId white orc was unnecessary too
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CelestialVoices
09/20/19 11:08:53 PM
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i don't think theyre that bad either. i had a pretty good time the last time i watched them, prob the most of any time i saw them before
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Hanky_Bannister
09/20/19 11:11:13 PM
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lame compared to lotr

sexy elf kate was cool tho
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BruceWayneJr
09/20/19 11:12:47 PM
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Good soundtracks.

And the sequence in the first one where they kill the goblin king and escape from their lair was fun in a cartoony way. That's it.

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Tired-Insomniac
09/21/19 12:36:06 AM
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Well shit

Random fun morbid fact I found while watching clips from LOTR on YouTube

J.R.R. Tolkien died in 1973
Reverse 1973 and you get 3791
3
7
9
1

Three rings for the Elven Kings under the sky

Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone

Nine for Mortal Men, doomed to die

One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne


Maybe it's the four hours of sleep getting to me but that's cool as fuck.
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Zikten
09/21/19 12:36:58 AM
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that's actually pretty interesting.
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Ludwig Von 2
09/21/19 12:54:53 AM
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I really liked the first movie. To me that one was on par with LotR.

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Paper_Okami
09/21/19 12:56:47 AM
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I only saw the first one

and i saw in theaters

it was aggressively mediocre

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marthsheretoo
09/21/19 1:08:31 AM
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The second one has the dubious honor of being one of the only films I had to stop watching because of how bad it was.
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BanjoBoomer
09/21/19 2:15:08 AM
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The content that actually follows the book is phenomenal. But that's like, two or three hours, maybe four tops, out of a nine hour runtime.

And yeah, I hated the 48fps thing. Why PJ chose to do that on a fucking prequel that should be trying to have visual consistency with LotR, I'll never understand.

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Awakened_Link
09/21/19 2:33:05 AM
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Really should've been condensed down to one film. They did the book a disservice.
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Rikiaz
09/21/19 2:56:14 AM
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Awakened_Link posted...
Really should've been condensed down to one film. They did the book a disservice.

I agree. I liked some of Gandalfs story and the tying into the Lord of the Rings parts but they should have been a different movie.
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Ilishe
09/21/19 2:56:48 AM
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smoke_break posted...
How'd they even stretch it out to 3 movies? Granted I haven't read the book but it doesn't seem like a long book.


Hm. Well, in the books, the big battle at the end lasts for about one paragraph IIRC. Bilbo gets knocked out by a rock hitting him in the head and wakes up after the battle. Since it's all from his perspective, we see none of the actual fighting.
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thrashmetal14
09/21/19 3:13:32 AM
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The Hobbit movies piss me off. They're straight up disrespectful to Tolkien
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shnangyboos
09/21/19 3:22:01 AM
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That goddamn barrel river battle was some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen.

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InYourWalls1
09/21/19 3:22:17 AM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
Does movie Hobbits lead into LoTR well?

Judging from this topic I'm guessing not lol


I would just read the Hobbit first, it's a good read and gives you a solid grounding for when you get into LotR

Don't bother with the Hobbit movies though
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scar the 1
09/21/19 3:43:57 AM
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Tired-Insomniac posted...
They took a bunch of stuff from the appendices too, didn't they?

Most of what they took was from their ass
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